OK, ready... diet, check, workout, check! Cycle?

[Justin332]

I've asked a lot of questions on this board, and I've read tons about what people are doing on here. All of you have been very helpful and I'm so thankful for the people on this board.

I've never done a cycle, and thought I was just going to do straight test-e at 400mg/week.

My stats are: 6'0 200 14.5% body fat.

I'm very worried about acne and have decided that I want to do test-e at 250mg/week for 10 weeks with anavar 50mg ed weeks 1-10.

I feel that this will minimize my sides and help me attain the goal I have of attaining about 8 pounds of solid muscle while burning excess fat.

My diet will be a bulking diet similar to the diet explained in the diet board.

I have arimidex on hand to run during the cycle, and nolva/clomid for pct.

What do you guys think? Is it okay to run test-e and anavar?

[hankdiesel]

Why do you feel the anavar will help reduce the sides?

[Immortal Soldier]

I've asked a lot of questions on this board, and I've read tons about what people are doing on here. All of you have been very helpful and I'm so thankful for the people on this board.

I've never done a cycle, and thought I was just going to do straight test-e at 400mg/week.

My stats are: 6'0 200 14.5% body fat.

I'm very worried about acne and have decided that I want to do test-e at 250mg/week for 10 weeks with anavar 50mg ed weeks 1-10.

I feel that this will minimize my sides and help me attain the goal I have of attaining about 8 pounds of solid muscle while burning excess fat.

My diet will be a bulking diet similar to the diet explained in the diet board.

I have arimidex on hand to run during the cycle, and nolva/clomid for pct.

What do you guys think? Is it okay to run test-e and anavar?

Why run a cycle if your goal is only to gain 8 pounds?

[Justin332]

I'm not feeling the anavar will "help" the sdies. I feel like that's the way to get the most gains witht he least sides. I'd like to get more than 8 pounds, but I want CLEAN gains.

[Justin332]

Big, if you're around I would really appreciate your thoughts on this.

[Big]

personally for cycle 1 I would stick to your initial choice of test e at 400mg/week.

[Immortal Soldier]

I'm not feeling the anavar will "help" the sdies. I feel like that's the way to get the most gains witht he least sides. I'd like to get more than 8 pounds, but I want CLEAN gains.

What is your def. of CLEAN gains? I mean if your diet is in check (which you say it is) you should gain very well on Test-E or Cyp while losing some bf. The sides on Test-E are very mild at best and estrogen sides such as bloating can be limited with the use of armidex on cycle or just wait till after your done with your cycle the water weight will leave. As for gaining fat that will happen but as long as your diet is moderately low in fat, sufficient in carbs to spark growth, and high in protein. Fat gain should be minimal IMO.

[Justin332]

personally for cycle 1 I would stick to your initial choice of test e at 400mg/week.

I was just so paranoid about the acne at that high a level of test. If I lowered my test and took a safer steroid orally.... you don't think that would help?

[Reed]

8 lbm pounds is a more a realistic goal then thinking 10-20 lbs off your first cycle is LBM. Might want to extend the cycle, 12 weeks. But 250mg a wk is almost a TRT dose, you'll still get results. How old are you?? I'd bump it up to 500mg and still run it for 12 weeks.

[Justin332]

8 lbm pounds is a more a realistic goal then thinking 10-20 lbs off your first cycle is LBM. Might want to extend the cycle, 12 weeks. But 250mg a wk is almost a TRT dose, you'll still get results. How old are you?? I'd bump it up to 500mg and still run it for 12 weeks.

I'm 28, but again I'd really like to make sure I do this as safely as possible. I used to ahve very severe acne as a kid and am sure it will come back if I don't do this modestly.

[Immortal Soldier]

I'm 28, but again I'd really like to make sure I do this as safely as possible. I used to ahve very severe acne as a kid and am sure it will come back if I don't do this modestly.

Acne on the back is a strong possibility(I have it now), on the face? Small chance, it depends more on the person and how their body reacts to the substance, so I cannot tell you for sure you will be fine until you see how your own body reacts. Thankfully that doesn't happen to me on cycle *knocks on wood*

[Reed]

I'm 28, but again I'd really like to make sure I do this as safely as possible. I used to ahve very severe acne as a kid and am sure it will come back if I don't do this modestly.

ok run proper precautions for acne. i doubt you'll have a severe reaction to test and I'd still think you should raise your dose (400-500mgs) but its all up to you. Good luck

[Justin332]

Acne on the back is a strong possibility(I have it now), on the face? Small chance, it depends more on the person and how their body reacts to the substance, so I cannot tell you for sure you will be fine until you see how your own body reacts. Thankfully that doesn't happen to me on cycle *knocks on wood*

I heard it happens more often on PCT on the face. I thought the anavar would help lower it since it's such a low dose.

[MuscleScience]

Just drop the anavar, run test only to see how you react. You never know which compound could be causing the most sides if you run more than one. Plus its your first cycle and you will grow like a fertilized weed on just test alone.

[austin4023]

I used to have acne when i was younger as well so I can understand your paranoia. When I ran my first cycle of test cyp at 400mg/wk i always expected acne to show up but it didnt. You should be fine but as everyone has said first cycle is usually recommended test by itself. If you are really that paranoid about test, why not just run Anavar by itself at perhaps 60-80 mgs a day?

[Justin332]

I used to have acne when i was younger as well so I can understand your paranoia. When I ran my first cycle of test cyp at 400mg/wk i always expected acne to show up but it didnt. You should be fine but as everyone has said first cycle is usually recommended test by itself. If you are really that paranoid about test, why not just run Anavar by itself at perhaps 60-80 mgs a day?

I was wanting to do just anavar, but this board doesn't recommend that at all. I don't want to go against the grain and not do test for my first cycle, you know?

[GTOne]

What is your def. of CLEAN gains? I mean if your diet is in check (which you say it is) you should gain very well on Test-E or Cyp while losing some bf. The sides on Test-E are very mild at best and estrogen sides such as bloating can be limited with the use of armidex on cycle or just wait till after your done with your cycle the water weight will leave. As for gaining fat that will happen but as long as your diet is moderately low in fat, sufficient in carbs to spark growth, and high in protein. Fat gain should be minimal IMO.

Sorry, but a bit confused. Are you suggesting he will lose or gain bf here? I would say if diet is in check and training is good, you can expect to lose bf and gain lbm.

[GTOne]

I think this is a relatively mild first cycle, and not bad... We all know the board will nearly unanimously say test only for first, and I probably agree, but this is not bad and you will probably get some decent quality gains... A higher dosage test only would get you more, but maybe not the same quality and with a little more sides.

[ghettoboyd]

from what i understand an anavar only cycle is one of the only oral cycles considered decent.i do not think you will be crucified for running it. i think the general concensus is to do test first cycle.but do as u wish.good luck either way...

[Justin332]

Is it okay to run test-e and anavar with test at a low dose to minimize sides? Or is it like a cardinal sin like just running deca by itself?

[chuckt12345]

i doubt 250mg a wk will cause much to any acne. Nothing wrong with running the var, its just not recommended for first cycle. Youd prb get alot more out of 350mg of test by itself than 250 and var.