mid cycle and don't feel like im on steroids

[garythompson]

When I started my 12 week cycle about 6 weeks ago, I felt great. I could tell i was on steroids. Now that i'm halfway through the cycle I don't fell like i'm even on them anymore. I'm still injecting from the same bottles so i don't think its anything to do with that, but why do I feel like this? I don't have as much energy, hunger, and been a little fatigued lately. its like i'm coming off a cycle but I'm not. also after injecting the site in the following days isn't really sore. there is almost no soreness in the days after injection.

[Big]

What is your cycle, and when is it you started feeling the effects?

[briancb1]

how many cycle do you have under your belt?

Yes, you will get used to shooting. After my very first few shots I could hardly sit down it hurt so bad. I no longer get pain from jabbing (not to be confused with shooting super test 400 or something, ouch).

You're lathargy is normal, I'm sure you have a really high red blood cell count.

[Immortal Soldier]

When I started my 12 week cycle about 6 weeks ago, I felt great. I could tell i was on steroids. Now that i'm halfway through the cycle I don't fell like i'm even on them anymore. I'm still injecting from the same bottles so i don't think its anything to do with that, but why do I feel like this? I don't have as much energy, hunger, and been a little fatigued lately. its like i'm coming off a cycle but I'm not. also after injecting the site in the following days isn't really sore. there is almost no soreness in the days after injection.

Law of diminish returns my friend as well as in the beginning you "felt" you were on steroids because you noticed the results while 6 weeks in you're eyes and mind have become accustomed to the change and you can't spot the minor changes.

[Spartan ^]

Law of diminish returns my friend as well as in the beginning you "felt" you were on steroids because you noticed the results while 6 weeks in you're eyes and mind have become accustomed to the change and you can't spot the minor changes.

I get like this myself. The first few weeks I can notice if a gnat shit on me but after about 6 weeks, your minds eye stops seeing the gradual change. dont get discouraged.

[Hazard]

I agree w/ immortal here.....

Fight through it man..... Increase the ammount of calories you're eating - switch up your routine a bit..... keep track of your weight increases on the scale and w/ the weights.

~Haz~

[garythompson]

What is your cycle, and when is it you started feeling the effects?

I don't remember what weeks I started feeling what but I put 10 lbs on real quick then kepy gaining muscle weight, with how ive felt lately it's been hard to eat my diet the past few days do I took a days rest from the gym and now I'm feeling better. I think i may have been over training. I'm going to rethink my routine.

Here my cycle

1-10 deca 200/week
1-12 test e 400/week tomorrow will finish up the first bottle of test. so I guess I started feeling like this at the end of my 5th week or begining of the 6th week.

[garythompson]

how many cycle do you have under your belt?

Yes, you will get used to shooting. After my very first few shots I could hardly sit down it hurt so bad. I no longer get pain from jabbing (not to be confused with shooting super test 400 or something, ouch).

You're lathargy is normal, I'm sure you have a really high red blood cell count.

what do you mean by this?

[Chev]

I started taking pics with the same poses, then you can look and compare.


my2cents

[SilverTest]

I think its from the shutdown of the natural endogenous hormone , you know when you start , your natty test is still running and you introduce extra from the exo test , the body takes a little while to actually feel that there is an xtra test in it and after that it begins to gradually shutdown its own production , when it does , maybe you absorb the test slowly and it does not build up in your system as quickly , and bingo , you got a lower level from what you started and it will take a little bit of time to build up again.

this is not a certain theory at all , just my personal opinion , could be something else.

[XNathan]

I think its from the shutdown of the natural endogenous hormone , you know when you start , your natty test is still running and you introduce extra from the exo test , the body takes a little while to actually feel that there is an xtra test in it and after that it begins to gradually shutdown its own production , when it does , maybe you absorb the test slowly and it does not build up in your system as quickly , and bingo , you got a lower level from what you started and it will take a little bit of time to build up again.

this is not a certain theory at all , just my personal opinion , could be something else.

Natural testosterone production is inhibited within days. And absobtion depend just on muscle type (biceps like or masseter like), dose and ester type or watter/oil base.

Garythompson
How long you use your vial? I guess not whole cycle its your second vial? If yes, its take 2wks before you notice testosterone defficiency after last legit gear shot (long ester).

[SilverTest]

Natural testosterone production is inhibited within days. And absobtion depend just on muscle type (biceps like or masseter like), dose and ester type or watter/oil base.

Garythompson
How long you use your vial? I guess not whole cycle its your second vial? If yes, its take 2wks before you notice testosterone defficiency after last legit gear shot (long ester).

humm.... are you sure about that ? within days? damn thats fast . anyways i said its just a thought . i was wrong.


gary maybe u can do a blood work for your sake and ours so that we know whats going on , do a test count blood test + estrogen.

[garythompson]

how much does that cost and where do i get it?

[garythompson]

im going to tap into my second vial of test e injecting tomorrow. the test e is supposed to last 12 weeks total on two vials so that means i'll be STARTING my sixth week tomorrow, which mean 5 weeks (and one day) being on cycle.

[SilverTest]

humm... i dont really know mate cs i am not in the country where u live , here i just call the chemist and he comes to my home and takes blood then deliver the results in a day or 2 . in other countries its a little bit different. ask your doctor about it .

[garythompson]

a few weeks ago I was horny as hell and felt great all the time. now it's the opposite. why would this change reverse back?

[garythompson]

i'd rather not cuz i don't have insurance. unless its cheap

[SilverTest]

are you bloated , do you have a lot of water retention , do you have sensitive nipples , i know i get screwed if my estrogen goes too high and i get horrible sides(although tis does not happen to me unless i am on like a gram of test) . but other people have it even at low doses.

if you have these things , you sould get your estrogen checked , if you dont wanna do that , just get some adex and start with 0.25 mg EOD as a start and see if you improve , if you DO , then it was the estrogen that is causing it . if not , then something else is causing it , and you should do bood work because nobody will know its only speculation.

[DSM4Life]

Maybe you weren't ready for the cycle.

[mrtosa]

I used to have those sides last week and I resolved with 1mg of adex eod and 250iu of hcg eod it was like magic

[XNathan]

humm.... are you sure about that ? within days? damn thats fast . anyways i said its just a thought . i was wrong.


gary maybe u can do a blood work for your sake and ours so that we know whats going on , do a test count blood test + estrogen.

Inhibiton is quick but for first 2wks only in hypothalamus and if you discontinue within 2wks recovery is in days. And its dose related if you inject 100mg testE EW you will need 2wks for deep LH supression as exogenous testosterone need to build up in your system. But any 19-nor or high dose of any AAS will stop your LH production in hours max. days.

[garythompson]

i have been taking Ldex ED at .25mg i don't think its estrogen but idk.

no sensative nipples, and yes I have water retention. I don't think you can stop that while on test. My face isn't swollen like it has been on past cycles but my diet is A LOT better on this one and not much sodium plus the Ldex is helping that i think.

[garythompson]

anyone know about this RBC count deal? how is it related

[SilverTest]

shit , idk bro , the rbc thing , they say it makes you tired if it goes really high .

i do not have that problem . actually it turned out that my prob is estrogen , again , the thing is , when i bloat and get gyno my estro would have to be REALLY REALLY HIGH , but it CAN go high to the extent of not giving me those , but giving me :

low libido and ED
no gains ( mass or size , i actually SHRINK)
decreased energy

so basically , it screws EVERYTHING i want On cycle, EVERYTHING.

[garythompson]

how do you know that was your problem? blood test? what did you do to fix it?