11 weeks from my first show. Cycle Suggestions!?

[regreb01]

Hey all I am new to the forum. I've been dieting now for about 4weeks for my first competition, the NPC Tampa Bay Classic. I'm now 11weeks out. I've just finished the pro hormone dymethazine and now want to bridge into a cycle and run it through the show. (now that i have a legit source!)


I've been doing research into different compounds and what does what.

By my question is for all you guru's is what would be a good cycle to run for a first cycle and for pre-contest.

My trainer is 'growing me into the show' so to speak, so i'm shedding fat while still trying to add mass.

I have all the support supps on standby already plus an AI, and SERM.

edit: I forgot to mention: I am def going to run anavar or winstrol the last 4weeks leading into the show to help with fatloss and give a hardened appearence. But from now till then I'm looking at Tren and/or test with a short ester so its fast action. Input is welcome!

[FireGuy]

Your trainer would be the logical person to set this up for you. Since he is "growing you into the show" I assume he is doing your diet and cardio schedule? Whoever is doing that should be the one advising you on your question as they are all intertwined.

[OH REALLY]

Your trainer would be the logical person to set this up for you. Since he is "growing you into the show" I assume he is doing your diet and cardio schedule? Whoever is doing that should be the one advising you on your question as they are all intertwined.

agreed

[regreb01]

Your trainer would be the logical person to set this up for you. Since he is "growing you into the show" I assume he is doing your diet and cardio schedule? Whoever is doing that should be the one advising you on your question as they are all intertwined.

right on. I have a meeting with him tomorrow morning to go over my progress this week, and i'll discuss it with him..

[regreb01]

Talked with my trainer last week. I started my contest cycle on tuesday i'm 10 weeks out.

Test-e 500mg/wk 1-10
Winstrol 50g ed 5-10

Running CEL Cycle Assist with it. And Liquidex from Ar-r. I have Liquid Tamox for PCT, and I'm also going to order the Clomid in a couple weeks too.

It's a simple cycle, but it is also my first show, and first cycle. Hopefully I'll see some good results

[hankdiesel]

You are definitely going to want to cut out the test E a few eeks out.

[regreb01]

You are definitely going to want to cut out the test E a few eeks out.

he's having me switch at the 5wk point from e to prop. supposedly it doesn't hold water as much. I forgot to mention that in my last post lol

[Vitruvian-Man]

he's having me switch at the 5wk point from e to prop. supposedly it doesn't hold water as much. I forgot to mention that in my last post lol

Don't bother with the Test-E just run prop for 10 weeks. backload with the winstrol leading up to PCT bro..

Test-P (weeks 1 - 10)
Winstrol (weeks 7 - 12)

-VM

[regreb01]

Don't bother with the Test-E just run prop for 10 weeks. backload with the winstrol leading up to PCT bro..

Test-P (weeks 1 - 10)
Winstrol (weeks 7 - 12)

-VM

too late now! already started the e..but i am goin to be switching the the prop once this 10ml vial is done. and also stack that with the winny. See how this goes!

[RuhlFreak55]

You are definitely going to want to cut out the test E a few eeks out.

he's having me switch at the 5wk point from e to prop. supposedly it doesn't hold water as much. I forgot to mention that in my last post lol

there are many people that argue that there is no difference at all in water retention, and i'm inclined to agree, their arguments are pretty logical. The hormone is the same, how could an esther possibly make one hold more or less water>

[RuhlFreak55]

that said...i still used prop for my contest prep lol

[regreb01]

haha true. we'll i'll be using it for the 2nd half. only thing i'm worried about is my training buddy said pinning prop is like letting someone punch u in the thigh as hard as they can

[RuhlFreak55]

haha true. we'll i'll be using it for the 2nd half. only thing i'm worried about is my training buddy said pinning prop is like letting someone punch u in the thigh as hard as they can

yea...he's full of shit...that said...i don't inject quads at all because i think it has caused serious muscle pulls in me personally before.

[regreb01]

yea...he's full of shit...that said...i don't inject quads at all because i think it has caused serious muscle pulls in me personally before.

haha right on. Yea i pinned my quad 2days ago, that night i could barely walk, but the next morning it was fine.

Whats everyone's take on Letro for gyno, i have a lil puffy nip thing goin on..not from the test, but just puberty/few cycles of pro-hormones in my day. looking to reverse it a little bit..heard letro is the way to go

[RuhlFreak55]

letro is the only anti-e I use....

I really find gyno to be a transient phenomenon though that I just get paranoid about when I shouldn't

[regreb01]

letro is the only anti-e I use....

I really find gyno to be a transient phenomenon though that I just get paranoid about when I shouldn't

i need to run that or start running nolva. Its not progressing on this cycle, in fact its going really well so far. but its still there from the past. I want to try to reduce it either running nolva at like 10-20mg/day on cycle or get the letro start running that at like .25mg or so. i dont really want puffy nips while im on stage...if its cold or i'm pumped they look fine but not all the time.

[joe293]

Talked with my trainer last week. I started my contest cycle on tuesday i'm 10 weeks out. Wow, that's late to be starting a cycle? I start 20-26 weeks out and by week ten I'm lowering the dosages to dial things in?

Test-e 500mg/wk 1-10
Winstrol 50g ed 5-10 I'm guessing this is your first cycle because this is a mild dosage for most female competitors?

Good luck with your show, what class do you compete in?

[regreb01]

Good luck with your show, what class do you compete in?

well...20-26weeks ago I was not planning on competition. I'm new to the sport...i was bulking still and getting bigger, but was still unsure if i wanted to do a show. I decided to do a show 20weeks ago started dieting 16weeks out.

yes it is my first time using gear. So no i did not want to go nuts with a heavy cycle because simply put I didn't want to. Now once this show is over and I take some time off to rebound then Yea I'm going to work on putting on a lot of size and run a good cycle. I was first planning on just dieting down and use some prohormones to help keep mass on, but did my research and decided otherwise.

[joe293]

That cycle will keep some size while starving (contest dieting). Being your first cycle just about anything is going to work great.
If there are anymore shows try to hit those too. I hate dieting into a show and not doing at least two. You never know when your going to hit your condition on the nose and you'll want to be able to display it.

[regreb01]

That cycle will keep some size while starving (contest dieting). Being your first cycle just about anything is going to work great.
If there are anymore shows try to hit those too. I hate dieting into a show and not doing at least two. You never know when your going to hit your condition on the nose and you'll want to be able to display it.

Yea there one a week before I might do, but afterwards theres a few week break until the next one and I'm not staying away from burgers and fries longer than i need to lol. My trainer said if we can dial in on time then we will enter the one a week before too, but we're aiming for the one on june 19th, we'll see how it goes. this is week 3 of the cycle, doing my 6th injection tonight actually. hopefully will start to see some fullness and strength increases coming into week 4, as I didn't jump start it with anything.

[joe293]

Yea there one a week before I might do, but afterwards theres a few week break until the next one and I'm not staying away from burgers and fries longer than i need to lol. My trainer said if we can dial in on time then we will enter the one a week before too, but we're aiming for the one on june 19th, we'll see how it goes. this is week 3 of the cycle, doing my 6th injection tonight actually. hopefully will start to see some fullness and strength increases coming into week 4, as I didn't jump start it with anything.

I usually do a show (Saturday) and on Sunday morning a breakfast buffet. I eat alot all day Sunday and by Monday I've gained 10-15 pounds (water mostly). Most of the food I take in for 36 hours after the show is protein and carbs. Whole eggs, hash browns, bread, cheese etc. By Monday I've really filled out and I can get back to the contest diet if there's a show the next weekend. Each one I do I get more dialed in.

[regreb01]

I usually do a show (Saturday) and on Sunday morning a breakfast buffet. I eat alot all day Sunday and by Monday I've gained 10-15 pounds (water mostly). Most of the food I take in for 36 hours after the show is protein and carbs. Whole eggs, hash browns, bread, cheese etc. By Monday I've really filled out and I can get back to the contest diet if there's a show the next weekend. Each one I do I get more dialed in.

damn...all those food sound soo ****ing good right now. at least you are able to binge and eat good shit for a day or two before u gotta deplete again for the next week.

for me I think i'm just goin to do the 1 show..the mid-florida classic. see how my body responds to the show prep. then take a nice off season and gain a lot of size before I go competing again, so then I will have good conditioning along with mass becuase right now i'm 6weeks out. 5'11 and sitting around 190...i'm not dropping on the scale anymore, but still leaning out (i'm thinking because the test is working) but I still have all the water to drop. next time I compete i want to come in over 200lbs on stage. already am listing the areas that need to be brought up in the off season.

[joe293]

I can never eat too much because my stomach has shrunk up so much. You can go to the breakfast buffet sunday morning but it's hard to really get your moneys worth...lol. Eggs, waffle and some fruit and you'll be ready to burst. Good luck with your show, hang in there.

[regreb01]

thanks dude!

[Ronnie Rowland]

he's having me switch at the 5wk point from e to prop. supposedly it doesn't hold water as much. I forgot to mention that in my last post lol

Test is test-hence prop causes just as much water retention as enanthate and you will have more marks on your body from shots. What prop can do is clear out of your system faster as you get within 2 weeks of your show-hence less water retention.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Talked with my trainer last week. I started my contest cycle on tuesday i'm 10 weeks out.

Test-e 500mg/wk 1-10
Winstrol 50g ed 5-10

Running CEL Cycle Assist with it. And Liquidex from Ar-r. I have Liquid Tamox for PCT, and I'm also going to order the Clomid in a couple weeks too.

It's a simple cycle, but it is also my first show, and first cycle. Hopefully I'll see some good results

I would add tren to test/winnie

[regreb01]

I would add tren to test/winnie

since it was my first cycle ever i decided to keep it really mild. However, now that I am seeing this, I know for sure my off season and next contest cycles are going to be nice. I will for sure be using tren for my next competition, hopefully in a year once I add some more mass/thickness this off season. Before I do that tho I gotta come off for a bit and rebound, I'm not ready to coast all the time on test. lol