Helpppppp!!!

[syke1988]

Started course on monday...

75mg/ml test prop
70mg/ml of tren acetate
and 55mg/ml of masterone


in one vial called one rip 200

Every other day injections...


Wherever I inject, the muscle goes dead for days and makes lifting a pain...

is this the prop??? and will my muscle get used to this pain if i inject in the same place??

pretty awkward when im injecting e.o.d and gettin this ache

[ghettoboyd]

do you rotate injection sites?....if not then do it and spread the pain around your body....

[956Vette]

Not good practice to inject in the same place. Where are you injecting?
Spread them around, you dont want scar tissue or infection. Your body will get used to it, hang in there and deal with the pain the best you can.

[syke1988]

i have injected into my left shoulder (monday) and right glute (wednesday)... it is my next injection tommorow and my shoulder and glute are still dead as hell...

will it always be this painful in the muscle area after every injection??

[syke1988]

so im always going to be dead as hell no matter where i inject??

hahah ****kkkkk!!!

[956Vette]

inject in the large muscles...glutes...you should at least be able to hit 4 areas there. Save the delts for another week. You chose a painful product

[syke1988]

yeah i didnt realise it would be as painful for so long after each injection or maby i'd of got a higher ester type of test so i didnt have to inject so frequent...

just makes it hard to train!! oh well... no pain no gain

will it always be painful or will my muscles adapt to it??

n thanks for the adviceeee!!

[956Vette]

it will likely be noticeable the day or two after each inject as you are experiencing. less and less though

keep your eyes peeled and/or search for techniques to help your situation...they are out there

[syke1988]

it will likely be noticeable the day or two after each inject as you are experiencing. less and less though

keep your eyes peeled and/or search for techniques to help your situation...they are out there

I will do thanks for your help bro!!


cant wait to see results of the cycle

[Bossman]

Hold up, is this your first cycle?
age?
wt?
ht?
How long are you going to run this cycle? What does your PCT consist of?

[syke1988]

2 seconds i will post it up

[syke1988]

Hold up, is this your first cycle?
age?
wt?
ht?
How long are you going to run this cycle? What does your PCT consist of?

yes its my 1st cycle...

Firstly im using a 10ml vial of one rip 200 that consists of:

Test Proportionate @ 75mg/ml
Tren Acetate @ 70mg/ml
Masteron @ 55mg/ml

* running 1ml EOD for 20days

Then after 20days running just test prop @ 100mg/ml and tren acetate @75mg/ml for 40 days

Also taking 50mg of Naposim ED for the 1st 20 days of cycle

Running Nolva, clomid and tamoxifen as PCT

* 8 week cycle

Age: 21

Height: 5ft6 (1.71m)

Weight: 10stone (140lb)

4 years gym experience

Diet:

8am: 4 egg whites, 1 hole egg... 4 capsules of creatine
9am: CNP Pentipeptide Protein Shake, Oats and banana.
12am: Chicken Breast (cooked with virgin olive oil), wholewheat pasta steamed veg bag
3pm: tin of tuna, rice and peas... (tuna with a sprinkle of extra virgin olive oil)
4:30pm: Pro G.F protein shake
5:15pm: Pro Slam

5:15pm - 6:15pm TRAIN

7pm: Wholemeal bread and sliced turkey breast / tin of beans or sweetcorn

9:30pm: CNP Pro pentipeptide

SLEEP!!

[B1gDaddy]

Wow you are very light lol only 140, a little early to be startin a cycle at that weight. You can take pain killers to help you through the pain, i take 2 in the morning an 2 around 4 pm, makes my whole day easier lol

[Bossman]

yes its my 1st cycle...

Firstly im using a 10ml vial of one rip 200 that consists of:

Test Proportionate @ 75mg/ml
Tren Acetate @ 70mg/ml
Masteron @ 55mg/ml

* running 1ml EOD for 20days

Then after 20days running just test prop @ 100mg/ml and tren acetate @75mg/ml for 40 days

Also taking 50mg of Naposim ED for the 1st 20 days of cycle

Running Nolva, clomid and tamoxifen as PCT

* 8 week cycle

Age: 21

Height: 5ft6 (1.71m)

Weight: 10stone (140lb)

4 years gym experience

Diet:

8am: 4 egg whites, 1 hole egg... 4 capsules of creatine
9am: CNP Pentipeptide Protein Shake, Oats and banana.
12am: Chicken Breast (cooked with virgin olive oil), wholewheat pasta steamed veg bag
3pm: tin of tuna, rice and peas... (tuna with a sprinkle of extra virgin olive oil)
4:30pm: Pro G.F protein shake
5:15pm: Pro Slam

5:15pm - 6:15pm TRAIN

7pm: Wholemeal bread and sliced turkey breast / tin of beans or sweetcorn

9:30pm: CNP Pro pentipeptide

SLEEP!!

You picked a very tough and advanced first cycle (4 different AAS for first cycle!). Many experienced users have a difficult time with the sides associated with tren let alone the fact that you have to pin EOD at a minimum, ED is recommended. You're running far too many compounds for a first cycle. Test only is usually recommended as a first cycle. With so many compounds you won't know what is causing sides, and Im sure you will have some on this cycle.

You're quite small and too young for any cycle. It would help if when members listed their diet they would break down the amount of protein/carbs/fats they were getting. Difficult to do with just a description. From what I see though, its looks restrictive.

What are your goals on this cycle? How many spots do you have to pin?

[syke1988]

You picked a very tough and advanced first cycle (4 different AAS for first cycle!). Many experienced users have a difficult time with the sides associated with tren let alone the fact that you have to pin EOD at a minimum, ED is recommended. You're running far too many compounds for a first cycle. Test only is usually recommended as a first cycle. With so many compounds you won't know what is causing sides, and Im sure you will have some on this cycle.

You're quite small and too young for any cycle. It would help if when members listed their diet they would break down the amount of protein/carbs/fats they were getting. Difficult to do with just a description. From what I see though, its looks restrictive.

What are your goals on this cycle? How many spots do you have to pin?

Break down in diet im taking:

Protein: 225g a day
Carbs: 400g a day
Fat: 60-70g
Calories: around 3000 spread through the day

my goal from this cycle is to add as much lean muscle in 8weeks I can and given the surplus of my diet i think 14lb is what im happy to aim for...

I will be pinning into 4 spots, left and right glutes and left and right delts... unless of course the prop causes too much pain then ill pin into my quads also...

I understand to expect side effects from this cycle, especially the tren, which I think has already started to make me sweat alot and wake up a few times during the night however if they become too much I will just stop and run PCT and wait till the right time and just run a test cycle...

Is it a good idea to run an anti eastrogen throughtout the cycle or just at the end as PCT???


thanks

[D_iamond]

only run the AI if you start to notice your nipples getting tender or you are holing ALOT of water otherwise there is no need.

[calgarian]

you picked a very tough and advanced first cycle (4 different aas for first cycle!). Many experienced users have a difficult time with the sides associated with tren let alone the fact that you have to pin eod at a minimum, ed is recommended. You're running far too many compounds for a first cycle. test only is usually recommended as a first cycle. With so many compounds you won't know what is causing sides, and im sure you will have some on this cycle.

You're quite small and too young for any cycle. It would help if when members listed their diet they would break down the amount of protein/carbs/fats they were getting. Difficult to do with just a description. From what i see though, its looks restrictive.

What are your goals on this cycle? How many spots do you have to pin?

x2.........not to mention the fact that he is 21.....

[syke1988]

only run the AI if you start to notice your nipples getting tender or you are holing ALOT of water otherwise there is no need.

I will, thank you for the advice

[syke1988]

x2.........not to mention the fact that he is 21.....

I was running steroids, clueless from the age of 16:

i ran a course of D-bol when i was 16...

a course of oxymetholone when i was 17...

a course of oxy metholone and anavar at 18...

and a course of oxymeth again at 19...


WITHOUT PCT!!!!!!!!!!!

Recent blood tests show everything is fine so if i havnt done any damage due to them courses I took previously I cant see what difference this cycle is going to make at this age or in 5 years time...

especially when i have fully researched into sides and got all necessary precautions...

[ghettoboyd]

so really this is your 6th cycle.....at age 21 dam.....

[syke1988]

so really this is your 6th cycle.....at age 21 dam.....

yeah... first ass cycle though

im in good health and ripped to shreads and can still run my 12 mile in 68mins and lift more than most people my height and weight

so all's good...

[ghettoboyd]

you mean injectable right cus those other orals were aas as well....i wasnt downing you bro you look good....i have reservations about you using at such a young age but its your choice.....im shure you now the risks your taking...

[Bossman]

yeah... first ass cycle though

im in good health and ripped to shreads and can still run my 12 mile in 68mins and lift more than most people my height and weight

so all's good...

You're fairly small considering you've run any cycles. You should be a beast after what you've been doing. Why do you think that is?

[theorignalanimal]

you're fairly small considering you've run any cycles. You should be a beast after what you've been doing. Why do you think that is?

diet>>>>>????????

[syke1988]

You're fairly small considering you've run any cycles. You should be a beast after what you've been doing. Why do you think that is?

I was at one point for my height, I was 168lb and ripped...

I started to train for the marines last year though and started doing just cardio, running 5days a week or more and not doing weights as such but more pressups and pullups etc... I lost loads of size and went lean due to that and diet...

This is the leanest ive ever been in my life...

[syke1988]

you mean injectable right cus those other orals were aas as well....i wasnt downing you bro you look good....i have reservations about you using at such a young age but its your choice.....im shure you now the risks your taking...

Yeas thats what I meant and thanks

[syke1988]

bumppppppppppp

[gonzo6183]

I was running steroids, clueless from the age of 16:

i ran a course of D-bol when i was 16...

a course of oxymetholone when i was 17...

a course of oxy metholone and anavar at 18...

and a course of oxymeth again at 19...


WITHOUT PCT!!!!!!!!!!!

Recent blood tests show everything is fine so if i havnt done any damage due to them courses I took previously I cant see what difference this cycle is going to make at this age or in 5 years time...

especially when i have fully researched into sides and got all necessary precautions...

Are you sure? Might be a reason you never got past 5' 6

[syke1988]

Are you sure? Might be a reason you never got past 5' 6

my parents are only 5"5 and 5"8 so...

I think its genetics why im not that tall anyway...

just got measured and weighed yday and im actually 5"6.5 and weigh 149lb

[Bossman]

Why did you bump this? What is your question?

[syke1988]

Why did you bump this? What is your question?

none, all i wanted to know is if test prop makes the majority of peoples muscles dead after theve injected... bumped so i could find the thread easier to see a reply...

[Bossman]

What you picked is one of the most painful combinations of injectables. Prop is tough for a lot of people. I've read other posts about "one rip" and they also stated it hurt. I run prop ED but I rotate 12 injections sites. Just added tren and the pain has increased. Your muscles should adapt somewhat, but you may always feel the pain. Everyone is different.

Search "prop pain".

[syke1988]

What you picked is one of the most painful combinations of injectables. Prop is tough for a lot of people. I've read other posts about "one rip" and they also stated it hurt. I run prop ED but I rotate 12 injections sites. Just added tren and the pain has increased. Your muscles should adapt somewhat, but you may always feel the pain. Everyone is different.

Search "prop pain".

Yeah i've had a good look into it... i can handle the pain in my legs and glutes its just injecting into the deltoids that does my head in because its hard to train upper body for a few days.

Thanks for help...

i'll post pics up after my cycle