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    Sex question.. HELP!!!!!

    I'm on week 7 of a 14 week program.
    750/wk sus250
    125/wk deca

    arimidex .05 eod
    HCG 600ius/wk (mon/wed/fri)

    I just recently added deca to my cycle to help cut the extra little bit of fat about 2 1/2 weeks ago. Since then I haven't been able to keep an erection during sex. Prior to that I was like a freeking monster, is it the deca or is my estrogen levels too high from my other compounds? I don't notice any other estrogen sides but I could just not be showing them?What is it! Help!!!

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    I had the same problem with deca, but that was after around 8 weeks of using it. My problem was more to do with the whack dosage of deca I was using compared to test.

    The fact that you just added the deca and have problems is weird, especially at that low of a dose.

    You could use cabaser, I know I did, and it didn't really help with my sex drive. My sex drive was fixed around the third week of my PCT (at that point I was off deca for around 7 weeks).

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    Hard to believe 125mg a week of deca is to blame when you're taking 750mg test EW. Deca also takes a bit to kick in.

    Taking .5mg of Adex EOD might be more likely the cause. If your estrogen is too low, you may also have libido problems. If you'e having no estrogen related issues (bloat, gyno) then drop the adex or at least reduce the dose by half.

    I doubt it's the deca.

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    So I should drop the adex all together? I read that while on hcg I should run adex to control estrogen sides, but if I don't have any I don't need adex, right? Also there is a post below mine that I just read through about deca dick, it scared the shit out of me. If this continues to last throughout my cycle I might kill myself. If I stop the adex now, how long until my shit gets back into normal gear?? Cgb could you give me a time estimate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldManRiver View Post
    So I should drop the adex all together? I read that while on hcg I should run adex to control estrogen sides, but if I don't have any I don't need adex, right? Also there is a post below mine that I just read through about deca dick, it scared the shit out of me. If this continues to last throughout my cycle I might kill myself. If I stop the adex now, how long until my shit gets back into normal gear?? Cgb could you give me a time estimate?
    Adex doesn't stop Estro sides from HCG. HCG raises estro through a different mechanism other then aromatase. Nolva would be the best thing to take while using HCG as it blocks the receptors.

    You should see some changes in a week or so after dropping the adex.

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    I love you. So does my fiancé.... Hopefuly this works! I am just about to take my hcg, if I raise the amount will it speed up my recovery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldManRiver View Post
    I love you. So does my fiancé.... Hopefuly this works! I am just about to take my hcg, if I raise the amount will it speed up my recovery?
    I would leave the dose the same, and send a pic of your fiance my way....

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    I'll do it if it works.... She will never know! She owes us both Ha!

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    I dont understand how HCG can raise estrogen by another mechanism other than by through aromatase acting on testosterone. HCG is simply an LH analogue, increases tesotosterone. With elevated testosterone comes increased aromatization of some of that testosterone to estrogen.

    Overall, estrogen is a cholesterol based molecule [as are all steroid hormones] and must be derived from the same biochemical pathways. I've never seen a steroid chart that didnt start with a cholesterol backbone nor a chart that shows the production of estradiol from anything other than from aromatase. Here is such a chart online at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Steroidogenesis.svg

    Not to be antagonistic, but I wasnt aware of any other mechanism of estrogen production and would be very interested in any evidence that supports another estrogen production mechanism, other than through aromatase.

    There are several studies that do show benefit of Tamox with HCG, it has been shown to increase effectiveness of HCG and decrease the de-sensitization of leydig cells to LH upon discontinuation of HCG.

    ***So if you are using HCG, you definately should be on Tamox!
    Last edited by JHeisman1; 04-30-2010 at 01:10 PM. Reason: incomplete

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    cardio helps cut fat and lets you maintain an erection

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    doesn't really matter what it says in the books, we all respond differently, it happens to me on just 700mg test e week, after week 4 prolactin levels increase to the point of not only effecting my erection but desire as well..

    and adex would be the last thing i'd use since it can lower levels so much you have the same effect.. no sex drive or ability to sustain an erection..
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