TRT issues thoughts advise needed

[jeepers]

Late 30's guy in shape athletic. Past history of AAS use through college and HS. Heavy at times and ran it all with no PCT. No one did PCT then FYI.

Most recently did a few cycles. 3 years ago a cycle over 10 weeks of 600mg test Enth per week. After that a cycle of test cyp at 400 a week. And most recently a cycle of 400 test cyp with 200 deca over 12 weeks.

I did not recover.

I went to the primary care. Got a whole blood workup. Test came back at 30. Was referred to a urologist. More blood work to retest the test level and look at LH and FSH. Both number were low but not by much.

Referred to the endo. To be continued.

Oh my test levels from the urologist were 72.

[durak]

Late 30's guy in shape athletic. Past history of AAS use through college and HS. Heavy at times and ran it all with no PCT. No one did PCT then FYI.

Most recently did a few cycles. 3 years ago a cycle over 10 weeks of 600mg test Enth per week. After that a cycle of test cyp at 400 a week. And most recently a cycle of 400 test cyp with 200 deca over 12 weeks.

I did not recover.

I went to the primary care. Got a whole blood workup. Test came back at 30. Was referred to a urologist. More blood work to retest the test level and look at LH and FSH. Both number were low but not by much.

Referred to the endo. To be continued.

Oh my test levels from the urologist were 72.

Talk to the guy I referred you to. If you lost his number PM me.

[Bio-Active]

Late 30's guy in shape athletic. Past history of AAS use through college and HS. Heavy at times and ran it all with no PCT. No one did PCT then FYI.

Most recently did a few cycles. 3 years ago a cycle over 10 weeks of 600mg test Enth per week. After that a cycle of test cyp at 400 a week. And most recently a cycle of 400 test cyp with 200 deca over 12 weeks.

I did not recover.

I went to the primary care. Got a whole blood workup. Test came back at 30. Was referred to a urologist. More blood work to retest the test level and look at LH and FSH. Both number were low but not by much.

Referred to the endo. To be continued.

Oh my test levels from the urologist were 72.

How long since your 12 week cycle? Did you run PCT?

[jeepers]

No pct after the test deca. Wanted to crash

I have not recovered well even with pct from prior cycles.

[Bio-Active]

No pct after the test deca. Wanted to crash

I have not recovered well even with pct from prior cycles.

What PCT did you run? Why did you want to crash? Do you want to be on TRT for life? How old are you?

[jeepers]

Age is near 40 like I said even with the usual pct clomid novla stuff. Even hcg. I never fully recover. I need the TRT. My endocrine system is fawked. Permantly low lh and fsh. Low test scores. I only feel normal when I supplement if you know what I mean.

[Vettester]

Yeah, 72 is down and out for sure! Keep us posted on your progress, but it looks like you're part of Club HRT now.

[jeepers]

Total test = 698

Normal range determined to be 280 – 1100

% free Testosterone = 2.82

Normal range determined to be 1.5 – 2.2

Testosterone Free = 196.7

Normal range determined to be 35 – 155

Currently on 200 mg Test Cyp every two weeks........

Thoughts on these levels.... I'd like to be a little higher

[tubs]

my first thought is pinning every two weeks is nothing but a problem with ups and downs
100 every week would be a lot better

i doubt your doc will bump it with your free so high

[jeepers]

my first thought is pinning every two weeks is nothing but a problem with ups and downs
100 every week would be a lot better

i doubt your doc will bump it with your free so high

Can some one explain what this mean???

Free Test ???? it's a little high but is that good ?

[pittbulldad]

http://www.ehow.com/about_5554736_testosterone.html

[Epic Ed]

As you read through some of our threads, you'll see that most of us favor a once a week dose, at least, and many (like me) break their dose up into 2x EW. The reason being test cyp has a half life of 14-16 days. If you pin a large dose on day one, you're blood levels will spike, you'll feel like Superman, and by the time your next injection rolls around your levels will be in the tank again. Smaller, more frequent does are much more effective at keeping your levels consistent and will eliminate the hormonal roller coaster.

[jeepers]

I hear you guys.on the weekly shots. I'm pushing for that. Question I have is what total test levels should I push for? Looking for optimal feeling and enhancement.

[zaggahamma]

sound advice from above but i dont see any bloodwork for estradiol

[BOB89]

I won't worry about acheiving any specific number for test. Its about feeling good not reaching a number. If your feeling good and your somewhere near a normal range(top or bottom) it really doesn't matter as everyones body reacts dif.

[jeepers]

Growing really tired of lab work. I guess

Makes me wonder how much underdosed ugl stuff I've used over the years.

200mg a week puts me towards the upper half and that test was done 12 days after getting pinned.

[jeepers]

Update.

I went back to the endocrinologist yesterday for a follow up visit.

I asked about splitting my dosage into a once a week event. Right now I have a Rx for test cyp at 200mg every two weeks. Seems low to me but whatever. He said that I really do not need to inject oncea week. He mentioned that my free test level’s are slightly high (the total test is 695) can anyone explain this?

I “learned” how to self inject yesterday as well. I kind of played stupid with the nurse. I pulled the 1 cc and plugged it right into the upper outer quadrant no issues.

[jeepers]

UPDATE:

So my endocrinologist finally calls in my Rx and the pharmacy tells me via the phone (automated system) that I have a prescription ready for pickup… 28 day supply of testosterone cypionate (200mg/ml) and a 30 day supply of syringes and needles…. Seems to me like this is ODD…. Basically I’m getting 2cc’s of test and 2 darts. For $40 bucks… Hummm. I know that the Endo called in a 90 day supply. Currious to see exactly how they dispense a 2 cc vial….. Should be interesting … I was assuming that I would at least be leaving the pharmacy with a 10cc vial and a open Rx for darts…

Almost cheaper to ‘self medicate’ without the Endo.

[Vettester]

My primary's office dispenses them in these little 1ML (200mg) vials. Your doc is probably giving you 2 mini vials.

[jeepers]

My primary's office dispenses them in these little 1ML (200mg) vials. Your doc is probably giving you 2 mini vials.

Still stinks when I can get 10cc vial for $20 OR the 2cc's for $20.00

Medical costs SUCK....