cycling for women??

[wolffish]

so i'm curious, i haven't done any cycles yet.. but the 2 reasons i understand taking a break between cycles are 1) because sustances lose efficiency over time and 2) to give your body a chance to go back to normal test production to go back to normal.. i'm excluding orals here which you obviously need to have breaks from to rest your liver too.

so i'm figuring women dont have to worry about point #2, so how long should women wait between cycles? and is there any factors i'm missing here regarding women n cycling?

[james_trudee]

what are your stats

[wolffish]

i'm just asking a theoretical question specific to women generally, not me.. it's very easy to find my stats if relevant - which they're not =)

[Bonaparte]

Myostatin elevation. This is what mainly contributes to number 1.
Cholesterol would be the other main issue, since most women use Var, which is the worst AAS on your lipids.
IMO, time on = time off. This would be a safe bet.

[lovbyts]

The between cycle is the same for women but what you use and how much is TOTALLY difference. If you are to use Test it's a MUCH lower dose than men and you will have more profound physical changes.

There are a few threads in regards to women cycle and what to use, I dont remember off the top of my head. I know one of the side effects of test is enlarged clit and if Im not mistaken it does not go back down after cycle.

Diamond has done quite a bit of research. She might be a good one to PM.

[wolffish]

var is only oral tho? (or can it be an injectible?) therefore would be important to give liver a break too.

i understood protocol to be time on + pct = time off.. but if women dont do pct is it just time on or is there a good reason for a longer / shorter break?

there seems to be so much information out there for the blokes but a lot less tailored to women and it gets confusing.. i'm just trying to learn / understand as much as poss.

[lovbyts]

Here are a couple threads to get you started with information.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...le#post5214067

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=female+cycle

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=female+cycle

[Bonaparte]

var is only oral tho? (or can it be an injectible?) therefore would be important to give liver a break too.

Var is already extremely mild on the liver, and women only use around 10mg anyway, so liver stress shouldn't be an issue.
And injectable 17aa compounds still pass through the liver, they just avoid the first pass.

[wolffish]

thanks lovbyts, i've seen these but i dont feel like they really answer my general questions about breaks between cycles for women and why they need significant breaks if at all?!

[wolffish]

i have another hypothetical question.. if you're using gear and you get pregnant & dont plan to keep the baby.. do you need to stop your cycle or can you keep going?!

HYPOTHETICAL question. i'm not using and i'm def not knocked up =p

[Bonaparte]

i have another hypothetical question.. if you're using gear and you get pregnant & dont plan to keep the baby.. do you need to stop your cycle or can you keep going?!

HYPOTHETICAL question. i'm not using and i'm def not knocked up =p

WHOOOAAHHHH...haha
I don't see the (medical) problem with getting the abortion and continuing the cycle.

[lovbyts]

Dont plan on keeping as in abortion or adoption?

I would say with adoption STOP

With abortion you are still going to need to give your body a rest for a week+ before hitting it to hard due to the trauma so it's up to you at that point.

I think the time on = time off is the same with women because you still need for your normal hormone levels to get back to normal before starting another cycle and best check via blood work or you will slowly and steadily turn into a man...,. OK maybe not but you may get more man features than you really want.

[wolffish]

i meant abortion, not sure people would want to adopt a mutant male baby.. i probably depends on

so time on just = time off, cause obviously chicks dont do pct.. which technically means woman can cycle more often than men (depending on all the other relevant factors).

next question: is there a threshold that women can use aas?! ie. if you kept cycling small dosages (i'm not talking pro amounts) following appropriate protocols and allowing time to recover, would there sides increase every time or would they stay the same or would they reduce due to some sort of tollerance?! ie. is there only so many times a chick could cycle / amount of gear she could use before she turned manlike or do sides just come and go?!

i recon a giant clit would be pretty good, the other sides not so cool..

[stevey_6t9]

i recon a giant clit would be pretty good, the other sides not so cool..

no, not cool at all.

[lovbyts]

no, not cool at all.

Especially if it starts competing in size with her mans woody.

[wolffish]

hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaahahaha.

i am serious bout the other questions tho.

[lovbyts]

From what I have seen, heard and read but not 100% sure it's accurate the physical changes do not go back 100%. If you look at women who have used and whos facial features look more manly even after they stop they dont seem to change back to the original smooth softer look.

If you are going to do it just make sure you have good people who have your back and will tell you and you will listen to them if/when they start to see any physical changes besides the desired ones of course.

I saw a good show recently on female body builders and steroid use but cant remember the name. If I can think of it I will let you know.

[stevey_6t9]

hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaahahaha.

i am serious bout the other questions tho.

are you serious about wanting something like this?

[Knockout_Power]

are you serious about wanting something like this?

Its not like mild use is going to give her a porn cock sized clit... and like she said, might be good if it stays sensitive.

Wolf, from the girls I know who use anabolics, anything from mild orals to test,deca and even tren of all things is they like to take 2 months off after any cycle. 6 weeks minimum.

[wolffish]

big clits might freak you guys out, but it just gives me more incentive to cycle.. not less =p

[Brodon]

My mind is shattering after every post I read in this thread.

You do know you could probably start taking steroids legally if you wanted to pretend to become transgendered... like FTM?

[Diamond*K]

1. u should gives urself a break for how long ur on.. if u use for 8 week.. take atleast an 8 week break.

2. var comes only in oral form

3. if i got knocked up.... imo.. and wanted an abortion ( not likely....) i would stop.. coz the process of getting the abortion is more than wat u think.. plus taking steroids already ****s with your biological clock... gettin an abortion can actually lead to infertility .. so i wouldnt chance it if i wanted to b a month....

4. var does enlarge ur clit..... 90% -80% of it goes away when ur done ur cycle. it doesnt get freaky huge ........... it looks like ur in heat.

[wolffish]

i dont want to become a man..

[Diamond*K]

5> daly u get get the same sides, if not worse every time u cycle....

[Diamond*K]

dont cycle more than 2x /yr.. its hard once u start... but u can get lots done naturally...

[BROKEN]

i dont want to become a man..

sure sure!!