need some advice

[gretna]

hey guys, the last time i posted i was about to embark on my first cycle of sus and dbol. now, instead of sus im doing 500mg a wk of andrapen for 12 wks and 40mg a day of dol for 6 wks. my pct starts 3 wks after last injection. wk 1 is 40mg of nolvadex and 100mg of clomid. wk 2 is 40mg of nolv and 50mg of clomid. wk 3 is 20mg of nolv and 50mg of clomid. wk 4 is 20mg of nolv and 25mg of clomid. my main and only goal is for all out mass and streanth. im not looking to be ripped and hard, just huge, thick, and stroung. please let me know if this cycle sounds good. i also have deca on hand and was thinking about adding it at 400mg a wk for 10wks. just a thought. let me know guys. thanks

[HawaiianPride.]

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[Knockout_Power]

Andropen and sust are pretty similar, post stats as HP stated and we will give opinions

[gretna]

age 37. weight 170. height 5ft 7. bf 15

[HawaiianPride.]

12 weeks of Andro is good. I'd taper the Dbol down to 4 weeks if you have no prior experience with it. PCT looks fine. Leave the Deca aside until you get familiar with these compounds first. Expand your options later on when you have more experience in cycling.

Got anything to combat ESRE, water, liver stress, ect.

[Knockout_Power]

agree with HP... and I would suggest bringing the dose of Dbol down to 25ED and get use to the compound... lots of guys see huge results from 25-30

[gretna]

thanks hp. and no on your last question. nothing to combat them. please give me advice on that as well

[gretna]

yeah, i'll take the advice and drop the dbol to 4 wks and lower the dose

[Knockout_Power]

for on cycle estro fighters there are tons... I dont use any cause I dont run high test or any highly estro building compounds, but I always recommend Aromasin. Its a nice compramise between fighting off ERSE without nasty sides... doesnt kill sex drive like letro can, but still better at fighting those ERSE that other compounds... some like adex as well.

[gretna]

are you saying run aromasin while on my cycle or off and how much?

[HawaiianPride.]

Exe: 10mg EOD. Helps with bone density and a ton of other benefits. My choice of AI as well. Rids about 80-85% of Estro. Keeps the bloat to a minimum as well. NAC 600mg PD for liver, or Liv52 2-4 caps PD

[Knockout_Power]

are you saying run aromasin while on my cycle or off and how much?

on cycle, and HP has the dosage right on.. 10ED will control it well.

[gretna]

thanks hp, and should i start that at beginning of cycle and when should i stop. and what is exe?

[gretna]

thanks knockout

[Knockout_Power]

exe might be short for exemestane = aromasin

[HawaiianPride.]

Yeah sorry for the abbreviations bro. KP has it right.

You don't necessarily need to start it right out of the gate, if sides occur you can start it, or to prevent anything from coming up go right ahead and start it.

[gretna]

ok, thats what i was thinking. thanks for all of the help knockout and hp. i,ll post results as i go. thanks again

[Knockout_Power]

ok, thats what i was thinking. thanks for all of the help knockout and hp. i,ll post results as i go. thanks again

one quick thing about aromasin, it takes about 6 days to reach full potency in your body, so if you feel sides coming on then start it right away... if you dont feel gyno, acne, bloat coming on... dont bother running it

[gretna]

ok, now im confused. i thought thats what nolvadex was for. so your saying instead of nolv replace it with aroumasin? or keep the nolvadex and clomid for the end like i planned? and the aroumasin while on at 10mg eod

[Knockout_Power]

aromasin for on cycle estrogen control... nolva and clomid for after cycle to lower estrogen and recover natural test production

[gretna]

ok, now i got it.