how will a test Prop and Var cycle affect cardio ?

[MR-FQ320]

ok so im soon going to embark on a cycle:

Test P 50mg ED
Var 80mg ED
Milk thistle: 3 capsules ED with var

PCT:
Nolva :40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

Stats: 31, 5'10, 200lbs, 14/15% bf, 5 yrs training, used clen b4

So heres the question:
At the moment im doing 3 mile road runs as my regular cardio usually three times a week, but im wanting to get back into playing football (soccer for our american freinds) again as a pastime, i played yesterday and my match fitness was down but i think i can regain this through HIT, but what i want to know is will my cycle affect my cardio somehow ie lung / heart capacity? weight issues aside i mean.

[Sector]

I would bring your Var dose down if you plan on doing alot of running. When I did my Var cycle I started at 60mg ED and even that gave me bad calf pumps, they could get extremely painful and eventually I stopped running.

[MR-FQ320]

would any other supplements provide for cramps maybe glucosomine?

[scotty51312]

Glucosamine? Try taurine, and not in the form of energy drinks. If this is a first cycle i wouldn't run var that high. But I also wouldn't recommend prop as a first cycle either

[SomeLiveForTheBill]

Glucosamine? Try taurine, and not in the form of energy drinks. If this is a first cycle i wouldn't run var that high. But I also wouldn't recommend prop as a first cycle either

Why are you against prop 1st cycle? and Var at 80mg a day is not catastrophically high.

[scotty51312]

^^ more likley to havin injection pain. Plus for a first timer i wouldn't recommend something that you have to inject everyday or EOD. And var has a pretty wide sweet spot when it comes to dose 40-100mg are what i generally see. IMO more isn't always better

[SomeLiveForTheBill]

^^ more likley to havin injection pain. Plus for a first timer i wouldn't recommend something that you have to inject everyday or EOD. And var has a pretty wide sweet spot when it comes to dose 40-100mg are what i generally see. IMO more isn't always better

Any more than 100 mg a day of Var, the body will reject it completely. Am I right? As for pinning every day... I am about to embark on my first cycle and looks like I'll be pinning 75 mg of Prop daily. Stuff is pharma grade and I'll have sterile grapefruit seed oil on hand in case the injects hurt like a SOB.

[scotty51312]

You mean Grapeseed oil right? I'm not sure about doses over 100mg but while var is considered mild on your liver its still a 17aa configured oral AAS and is still somewhat toxic to the liver. The prop ester is lighter in molecular weight than other esters so it yeilds more testosterone per mg than the heavier esters if i remember its somewhere around 82% test. Dont' quote me on that i'm just to lazy to look it up. If you have no problems pinning and don't mind using several injection sites to minimize scar tissue then I guess its an option for a first cycle. Just remember that ED injections for 8 weeks = 56 injections Long esters twice a week over 10weeks = 20 injections.

[SomeLiveForTheBill]

You mean Grapeseed oil right? I'm not sure about doses over 100mg but while var is considered mild on your liver its still a 17aa configured oral AAS and is still somewhat toxic to the liver. The prop ester is lighter in molecular weight than other esters so it yeilds more testosterone per mg than the heavier esters if i remember its somewhere around 82% test. Dont' quote me on that i'm just to lazy to look it up. If you have no problems pinning and don't mind using several injection sites to minimize scar tissue then I guess its an option for a first cycle. Just remember that ED injections for 8 weeks = 56 injections Long esters twice a week over 10weeks = 20 injections.

Good stuff, thanks man. Yeah, I MIGHT do this 150 mg Test Prop EOD. I have another thread going to discern the advantages/disadvantages of ED vs. EOD. You are right on the prop yield. I should do great things on this cycle.