Prop/Tren Ace cycle

[RB3232]

Sup guys, gonna do an 8 week cutter with tren ace and prop. This will be my first time running tren so let me know what you think

Quick Stats:
Age - 25
5'11 200 lbs
BF % 10-12
This is my 4th cycle


Test Prop - 50 mg EOD - 175 MG/Week
Tren Ace - 125 mg EOD - 437 MG/Week

Arimidex - .25 mg every 3rd day (Is that sufficient?)

Also I plan on buying Caber and running it at 1mg per week as Atomini advised, but does AR sell that?

Post Cycle: I plan on doing (by the week)

Clomid - 100/100/50/50
Nolva - 50/50/25/25

Is this sufficient for my pct? and should I continue the caber and AI?

[Lunk1]

[QUOTE=RB3232;6314701]Sup guys, gonna do an 8 week cutter with tren ace and prop. This will be my first time running tren so let me know what you think

Quick Stats:
Age - 25
5'11 200 lbs
BF % 10-12
This is my 4th cycle


Test Prop - 50 mg EOD - 175 MG/Week
Tren Ace - 125 mg EOD - 437 MG/Week Since this is your first tren run I would highly suggest 75mg EOD. This is more than enough and when you get up around that 400mg EW mark the sides tend to be more pronounced and the gains are really not any bigger!

Arimidex - .25 mg every 3rd day (Is that sufficient?) Due to your low test dose you might be able to keep this on hand but will def. need Prami or Caber.

Also I plan on buying Caber and running it at 1mg per week as Atomini advised, but does AR sell that? Ar-r sells prami and it's nearly the same thing...

Post Cycle: I plan on doing (by the week)

Clomid - 100/100/50/50 100/50/50/50
Nolva - 50/50/25/25 40/20/20/20

Is this sufficient for my pct? and should I continue the caber and AI? PCT 3 days after last pin..AI or Prami till day before PCT

In red is my suggestion

[RB3232]

I really appreciate the quick/thoughtful response


75 mg eod is only ~262 mgs per week, is that a good amount to run on my first cycle of tren? I've been reading 400 is the sweet spot

[austinite]

I really appreciate the quick/thoughtful response


75 mg eod is only ~262 mgs per week, is that a good amount to run on my first cycle of tren? I've been reading 400 is the sweet spot

Yes, it's more than plenty. Some do as little as 50 EOD with good results. Play with tren later, keep your doses low and learn from it.

good luck.

[Lunk1]

I really appreciate the quick/thoughtful response


75 mg eod is only ~262 mgs per week, is that a good amount to run on my first cycle of tren? I've been reading 400 is the sweet spot

Keep in mind that tren is noted for being 5X more powerful then test...at 75 mg EOD your talking the equiviliant of nearly 1300 mg of test! Isnt that plenty????

[XxAndreaxX]

with that cycle you won't see any nothing. pop up your test to 300-500mg/EW x 8 weeks and down your Tren to 75mg/EOD x 6 weeks. Or add more compounds except deca

[RB3232]

Keep in mind that tren is noted for being 5X more powerful then test...at 75 mg EOD your talking the equiviliant of nearly 1300 mg of test! Isnt that plenty????

haha yes when you put it like that, and its my first time too so ill be following that... also in regards to caber, should i just order the Prami and follow that guideline? and when do i take that?

Also when would I notice a need for my AI?

[Lunk1]

with that cycle you won't see any nothing. pop up your test to 300-500mg/EW x 8 weeks and down your Tren to 75mg/EOD x 6 weeks. Or add more compounds except deca

This is assanine! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Lunk1]

haha yes when you put it like that, and its my first time too so ill be following that... also in regards to caber, should i just order the Prami and follow that guideline? and when do i take that?

Also when would I notice a need for my AI?

You have a choice to make....175mg of test is a borderline amount where using an AI is questionable. if you were running over 200mg I would def. say incorporate the AI!

I would start with the Prami and keep the AI on hand. The best way to know if it's needed is through bloodwork. I understand that routine bloodwork through cycle is not feasable for most so the next best way for me to determine if I would need to start the AI usage would be BP and water retention for me...but it's important to know what E2 sides feel like for you...if you have cycled before then you most likely know what to look for!

[Allaaro]

If you can find caber non-liquid form I'd use that. Everything else is fine, but I agree with going 75 EOD first time tren. If your handling it fine, you could always increase it mid-cycle.

[songdog]

If you can find caber non-liquid form I'd use that. Everything else is fine, but I agree with going 75 EOD first time tren. If your handling it fine, you could always increase it mid-cycle.

No need to increase the dose its his 1st time with Tren.You dont adjust your dose according to sides.You grow into your dose.More isnt always better.

[kelkel]

You have a choice to make....175mg of test is a borderline amount where using an AI is questionable. if you were running over 200mg I would def. say incorporate the AI!

I would start with the Prami and keep the AI on hand. The best way to know if it's needed is through bloodwork. I understand that routine bloodwork through cycle is not feasable for most so the next best way for me to determine if I would need to start the AI usage would be BP and water retention for me...but it's important to know what E2 sides feel like for you...if you have cycled before then you most likely know what to look for!

Well said Lunk! Op, IF you end up needing an AI you could probably get by on the bare minimum dosage.

No need to increase the dose its his 1st time with Tren.You dont adjust your dose according to sides.You grow into your dose.More isnt always better.

Well said again!

[RB3232]

Well said Lunk! Op, IF you end up needing an AI you could probably get by on the bare minimum dosage.



Well said again!

for me I need the AI when I bloat or acne flair, but when i have been shooting this small amount of test I don't notice bloat at all, yet acne still flairs up on and off. Maybe i should just do .25 MG every 4th day?

Also ill buy the prami and use that at 1 mg per week, but when do i take this dose?

Almost forgot about my GH! I've been on for 6 weeks at 2.5 IU's awaiting my next shipment to come in to slowly climb to 5 IU's per day and ill be ordering T4 as well from a website I found because AR doesn't sell it (right?)

[Allaaro]

No need to increase the dose its his 1st time with Tren.You dont adjust your dose according to sides.You grow into your dose.More isnt always better.

Totally agree with you. But, considering OP is already using GH...and getting some T4, I would assume he will want to increase the dosages and not stay at 75 EOD since he is practicing the more is better approach already. So at least start small and work your way up.

[RB3232]

I'm not saying more is better at all. Ill be doing 75 tren 50 prop eod with the gh.

When should I take my prami?

[RB3232]

I'm not saying more is better at all. Ill be doing 75 tren 50 prop eod with the gh.

When should I take my prami?

Thanks guys

[warmouth]

I'm not saying more is better at all. Ill be doing 75 tren 50 prop eod with the gh.

When should I take my prami?

Every monday. Or split it up monday/thursday.

[songdog]

Totally agree with you. But, considering OP is already using GH...and getting some T4, I would assume he will want to increase the dosages and not stay at 75 EOD since he is practicing the more is better approach already. So at least start small and work your way up.

So your going to add fuel to the fire! Not a good pratice Bro.Safety comes 1st!

[RB3232]

So your going to add fuel to the fire! Not a good pratice Bro.Safety comes 1st!

are you saying I'm not being safe?

[RB3232]

What do you guys think about me adding in some winny at 50mg ed during this as well

[Lunk1]

My opinion is just let the tren do it's thing and since it's your first tren run, leave it for now!

It really wont be any huge benifit anyhow as your already running such a strong compound!