Rookie - Just got my gear - First cycle .. 26 weeks cycle???

[Melb82]

Hi,

I just signed up and this is my first post, it might be a long one but please bare with me, I will be doing my first cycle in a few weeks once I reduce my body fat. I have a few questions as I am just confused at how to go about my cycle. My goal is to look fit, I am not going to compete, I want to look reasonably big and get rid of some very stubborn fat around the chest area. I am 192 CMs (6"2) and weigh 95 KGs at the moment with a fairly wide build.

Here is what I have and how I have been advised to take the gear, would much appreciate some comments and advise from experts:

10 x Sustanon 250
10 x Primo 100
10 x Deca 100
a bottle of trenbolone 100 ml
and 100 pills of Anavar 10mg

Since it is my first cycle I have been recomended to take a long cycle.

1st week: 1 x Sustanon and 1 x Primo and 2 pills of anavar daily
2nd week: 1 x Deca and 1 x Tren and 2 pills of anavar daily
3rd Week: Rest (nothing)
Then start the 3 week routine again

If you do the maths this cycle is going to take me over 25 weeks to finish thats nearly half a year! While all posts on this site are talking about 8 week cycles

Have I been recommended a bad routine? and how do I go about taking the gear I have in order to achieve my goals?

I have also got 14 pills of Nolvadex as I have been told pill a day post cycle is all I need for recovery.

Would much appreciate some help and if I said something ridiculous please keep in mind it is my first cycle and my knowledge on steroids is still fairly basic

[jasc]

I'm no expert.. but that cycle is incredibly long.. chances of a full recovery may be slim after that, unless you are already on trt

[jasc]

Without hcg, your body will have shutdown its natural test production for nearly half a year.. n that PCT of just 14 nolva pills is not sufficient for that type of cycle IMO.. I'll let the vets go in to more detail...

[im83931]

I am not an expert, but, thats a horrible cycle. I am not trying to be an ass about it but you should stop and do some research. and after 25 weeks you will be completely shut down. Your hormone panel will be all over the place. If you have a bad reaction how will you know which compound caused it.

[Melb82]

I see, so obviously my concern on it being a long cycle was in its place! also the anavar will run out so I'm not sure weather to take it at the early or late stages of the cycle.. at this point my concern is how do I take the gear I got. Thanks anyway Jasc!

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

1st cycle and you have a cocktail like this? I smell something and it is not success..

Slow down, wise up and do this properly..

Run the sust only for your 1st dance.. You do not even know how you will react to one substance let alone five of em.

Whats your plan to combat sides when they start to show? How will you know which substance is causing what sides?

[Nooomoto]

Remind me again why a "rookie" needs 5 compounds in his first cycle? Whoever "advised" you to do this is a moron and an asshole. Seems more like he's using you as an experiment, rather than trying to help you.

[Srobis15]

There is nothing at all that I find good with this cycle....

Not to mention that is a TON of harsh stuff to stack together, and for 26 weeks?

And 14 pills of Nolva? I would go through that in a few days on PCT, not to mention 26 weeks with only 2 weeks of Nolva only PCT, after using things like Deca and Tren? Nothing about this cycle shows success. Only major problems down the road.

[Melb82]

That was my concern Fuzzy, and I see your point! I have decided to do alot more reading before I do anything at the moment. But are you suggesting that I do only sust for a couple of weeks then gradually add the primo the following two weeks? then the rest? I need a full program and while there is alot of info on these, there is no handbook that tells you how to go about it!

[pointblank]

I would look for a new source if I were you...

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

No! How did you come to that conclusion from what I wrote?

Start with only one, then after that cycle run an appropriate PCT..

[jasc]

Sust alone would probably be best for your first cycle.. Sust & Anavar would also be reasonable, the var would help with that fat.. maybe a 12 wk cycle.. personally I'd save the others for a later time.

Before you start look in to a better pct.. maybe more nolva depending on how many mg the nolva are.. some clomid or torem would be very beneficial

[baseline_9]

This is so bad...

You dont have enough of any gear to complete even one cycle....


Educate yourself by spending time on this site..... You have lots to learn..

Good luck

[im83931]

That was my concern Fuzzy, and I see your point! I have decided to do alot more reading before I do anything at the moment. But are you suggesting that I do only sust for a couple of weeks then gradually add the primo the following two weeks? then the rest? I need a full program and while there is alot of info on these, there is no handbook that tells you how to go about it!

When you run your first cycle it is best to run one compound at the same dose every week.

[Melb82]

cheers for the advise guys.. defiantly will do more reading.. and have no source to get more of any and don't intend to so I just have to work with what I have.. def will do alot of studying!

[Sicko]

Heheheh.. you have all been duped.. there is no way this is a real person cmon..Really?

[Melb82]

what am I then a robot? lol and why would you say that

[im83931]

Not a robot.. a cyborg maybe?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

[Melb82]

we all have to start somewhere bud.. none of us were born with steroid knowledge!

[im83931]

You are correct. I was just bustin on you.

[lc1213]

damn looks like your source sold you everything under the sun. i have a bridge for sale, wanna buy it? you can run it with your cycle too.

as a lot of guys have already stated, too much too soon. start with a test only compound for your first cycle so you will know how your body reacts. if you run multiple compounds on your first cycle and get side affects, you won't know what caused it. get a good pct planned.

[shooterdude]

well before you bought all this stuff us prob should have researched it a little more, did you get a discount because its all left over from someone elses cycle, i don't understand how you can get all this stuff and not be able to get any more of just the one compound. Sounds like your going to put together a cocktail to really mess up your body. By the way how old r u? Good luck and be careful,

[guitario]

I know a guy who is about 18 weeks into a cycle. Awesome physique.. yet he has started growing body hair like an old man.

He'll probably have to go on TRT as he did a similar thing a year ago.

[ddp2727]

Yes for certain run only a single compound for your first cycle. Tren is some harsh stuff man, most people make that the last AAS compound that they ever try, and nobody on these forums will ever tell you that taking them before your 4th stacked cycle is a smart idea. Before you start that single compound cycle though you will need to do much more knowledge based research. Chances are you need to completely redo your diet routine first to get ride of the fat, because increases in fat cells can be acheived with steroids as well, especially if you are already fat. Know as much as possible about PCT, not everyone needs an AI but if you are one that does, what is your plan? Are you doing the proper workout routines to get the most out of your gear. Do you know how to inject yourself? Do you know when to start PCT in regards to what gear you have? These are just a few of the many questions you need to be able to answer before you think about starting. Please take our advice man, seen too many people start taking gear that had no business doing it and they still do it wrong bc of it, and sometimes they stop lifting all together bc of it.

[Melb82]

I am 29, and have been on a great diet plan for the past 12 months, I have 5 meals a day mostly salmon, tuna, chicken, beef, turkey, all grilled, with cottage cheese and boiled eggs to end the day good mix of veg too, I get my carbs from low fat gnocchi (potato) on workout days I have 40gms carbs 2 hours before training, in addition to multi vitamins, fish oil and WPI protein shakes post workout . I lost 20 Kgs of fat in the past 12 months and currently workout 5 days a week, 30 Min cardio followed by lifting, my lifting is on track, so I'm in somewhat good shape, just need to lose another 5 kgs of fat while maintaining muscles.
Now onto the reason why I got the gear is because I want to get that extra edge and become bigger. please lets drop the non-constructive comments and keep the discussion pro so me and others can gain from it. For now it looks like I will run sust, I am doing some reading at the moment I just have to manage the order in which I run what I have and PCT inbetween each cycle etc.. but great advise so far I just have to put the pieces of the puzzle together and see what works best for me with what I have..SAFELY!

[redz]

You don`t have what you need for a first cycle so you should wait.

[Sicko]

what am I then a robot? lol and why would you say that

The same reason I would think Ashton Krucher is lurking around the corner If some one came to my jobsite and said they were a master carpenter with all the tools needed and wanted to build my job, and then said they had never worked in construction a day in their life. I would think that it is some kind of joke or something. I find it hard to believe some of the posts that people say on this forum. I just wouldnt even think of asking if my "cycle" was good if I had not even attempted to know what I was trying to do.Sorry it just seems like too far fetched of a story not to believe someone makes up these newbies.l Like someone likes to instigate a flood of replies..A TROLL is what i believe they are called here.
If you really happen to be a real person with real interest in AAs then accept my apology but I suggest you do so more simple research. You got here so you obviously have a computer. You will save yourself from this kind of snide replies if you at least know which foot your right shoe goes on before you leave the house..

[Melb82]

waiting won't get me anymore.. that's all I have and I need to use it even if lower dosages won't get me as much results, For now I think I will run Sust 250 and Primo 100 for 10 weeks see how that goes then for a second cycle early next year, Deca 100/ Tren 100 for 10 weeks. Just not sure when to mix the anavar. Any expert that could tell me how to utilize what I have taking into consideration I cannot get anymore stuff apart from nolvadex probably, would be much appreciated!

[im83931]

hahahahahahaha, Man thats funny- next year for your second cycle your going to run a tren/deca cycle. Your going to be so fvckd up after that.

[seattleironpumper]

Man this is crazy shit, Im glad I research I would never start a first cycle like that...........

[Pat403]

I don't know if I can ask this in a post, so if not someone please advise. Out of interest sake what did you spend on all this for a first cycle?

[Pat403]

Also in reply to your last post there. A 2nd cycle of just deca and tren hope your not interested in using your dink anytime soon

[redz]

Buddy you seriously are going to ruin yourself, 14 Nolva pills is not even a pct. You will only damage yourself with what you have.

[TheClinch]

Dont be stupid kid

[jdot]

Hate to jump a thread, but If this guy is going so seriously off-track - would it not be beneficial to provide examples of your own cycles? Maybe not your current cycles, but the chemicals you took when you first started.

Jdot.

[Melb82]

Exactly! Instead of telling me I'm stupid and crazy just tell me what is recommended! lol I never said I'm going to do the cycle I mentioned that was the reason for my post I'm seeking advise.. I got the gear as a combo as it was a case of being at the right place at the right time, it is authentic checked them all nothing is fake and they have 2015 expiry most are manufactures jan 2011, and got quite a deal on them, I just checked it again, I have the quantities mentioned above however 16 x sust and 18 x deca, the rest are as mentioned.

From the replies I am getting it is obvious that I need to split what I have into two cycles! I cannot get more of any substance as they are illegal where I am and have no source, my original source is miles away in a different country and I am not going there probably ever again! so just have to work with what I have, from what I have been reading looks like sust needs to be done in both cycles so I will be splitting them 8 and 8 for the next cycle I refuse to believe that 250/week will not give me any results! I know the recommended is sust 500/week but I am sure 250/week will give results and besides my goal is not to compete, that leaves me with 10 x primo that isn't much of a dosage so not sure how to fit it in with my first cycle, and where does the 18 x deca come in? should I leave it to be done with the tren on my next cycle early next year? so many questions so little answers!! lol

[redz]

Hate to jump a thread, but If this guy is going so seriously off-track - would it not be beneficial to provide examples of your own cycles ? Maybe not your current cycles , but the chemicals you took when you first started.

Jdot.

It's called a search function and if someone needs to be spoon fed they shouldn`t be messing with this stuff. Telling someone what we did in no way means they should do the same with no knowledge.

and have no source to get more of any and don't intend to so I just have to work with what I have.

This statement alone shows why you should never ever take steroids........

[TheClinch]

It's called a search function and if someone needs to be spoon fed they shouldn`t be messing with this stuff. Telling someone what we did in no way means they should do the same with no knowledge.

This statement alone shows why you should never ever take steroids........

^^^ Thats hitting the nail on the head.

Do more research kid

[Melb82]

Melb........u obviously feel attacked, but u just publicly announced ur gona commit suicide! & u announced it 2 a panel of hardcore vets that really know their sh!t & hav seen this many times b4 u, they're just tryin 2 save u bro. If u do more research u will c that a cycle of tren & dec will do 50 times more bad than good, wut will u do bout ur natural testosterone production & testicular atrophy, among several other problems that will arise from that cycle? Also, u insist on a double compound 1st cycle, I know u've been asked several times throughout this thread but u've yet 2 answer........if u hav a bad reaction, how will u know which one caused it? Maybe the value of this info is unknown 2 u??? If u know which one caused it, u can avoid that compound in the future, or maybe u can figure out how 2 counter the adverse affect(s). U want an example of someone elses 1st cycle......hers mine: after almost 2 yrs of research, I ran 1 ml of test-e for 10 wks. that's it, there wuz no need for pct at that dose (at least not 4 me, everyone's body is different) I discovered that I wuz not allergic 2 it & I although my results were minimal, they were acceptable. About 5 months later I went with 2 ml's of test-e & 1 ml of deca per wk for 12 wks + suitable pct & so on & so on. I am by no means saying these r suitable cycles 4 u, it is merely an example of an educated rookie taking calculated, patient baby steps. Theres a rite way & a rong way of doing everything, don't get mad when u come here & blow rong way outta the water with a nuke & get the WTF!!!! from everyone. All this info is readily available on this site, a year or so from now u will b so grateful 2 these guys 4 grabin u by the collar & shakin some sense into u. Or if u still have the mental capacitance 2 understand wut u've done 2 urself, u will wish u had listened.........ur choice. Good luck brother.

Cheers bud, looks like I will start on sust 250/week for just 8 weeks, see how that goes followed by suitable PCT, the reason why I wanted to do two substances is because there are so many posts of 1st cycles doing it with positive feedback even from experts! anyways I just ordered liquid clomi, liquidex (Arimidex) and liquid Tamoxifen Citrate (Nolvadex) although I have an additional 14 pills, as my all night study i concluded that these 3 are essential part of any PCT, do you recommend Arimidex throughout my first cycle that I mentioned?

You are right about so much info being on this forum but so much of the info contradicts each other as different trainers have different opinions and substances react differently to people, I'm really taking all this seriously hopefully I will see good results and can help others in the future and share my outcomes!

[redz]

looks like I will start on sust 250/week for just 8 weeks

What a waste, that isn`t much more than a TRT dose of test and for just 8 weeks? You will shut your natural production down with very little if any benefit by the time you are done pct you may actually be worse off.