1st Cycle Newbie

[Stevencusson]

Been checking the forum out for some time now. Been thinking of getting some gear. 28, been training for 3 years, and about 180lbs todate. But first some questions.

1. I was thinkinh of Test pron and dbol for a cycle of 4 weeks on. Good idea?

2. What kind of gains do you see in the first 3 or so cycles?

3. Is oral a terrible idea? I have a fear of injecting myself

Thanks

[Pac Man]

I assume you mean test prop, I'd run it 6. Dbol I would save for the next cycle that way you know how test only works on you.
If you have a fear on injecting yourself you probably don't want test p since youll be shooting ED or EOD. I would run E for 10wk

[Zackery]

Hi Steven

My recommendation would be to try a bit longer than 4 weeks. Usually if some one wants to do a short cycle they do at least 6 weeks. Test would be recommended as an injection. The dbol is commonly oral.

Gains would vary depending on how hard you train and how much you eat. Coz lets face it, you can't just take steroids and expect to compete with Cutler in a few years. With a proper diet you'll start seeing impressive results in strength after about 2-3 weeks. Size results in about 3-6 weeks. With my first cycle I averaged a gain of exactly 2.2lbs per week.

Oral steroids like your dbols and anadrol will give you a nice boost if you were to take them before a workout for eg. But you'll read on all oral steroids that they are harsh on the liver as they "survive" the first pass through the liver. This enables it to go directly into the body for max effect. But this unfortunately is somewhat toxic to the liver. So avoid too much oral. As for the fear of injecting yourself. It goes away after the first few times. Best would be is to get some one to do it for you the first week or so. It helps

Hope you find this helpful

Z

[Stevencusson]

Thats great guys. Thanks. So what if someone only did 2 cycles a year. Would they looser all there gains from while on gear? 2lbs a week! I would be lucky to average 2 every 6 months!

[qal92]

Yeah i would run the cycle atleast 6 weeks, 8 would prob be even better. To keep your gains? Your pct needs to be solid! and you need to make your diet better and better as time goes on and train harder and harder as time goes on if you want to keep your gains. and the type of gains you make from your cycle will be determined by what i just mentioned, how bad do ya want it? train hard and eat harder, educate before you medicate, best of luck homie

[Standby]

try to get your diet best before you cycle if you already havent. nutrition resource forum is where you want to check that out at. also might want to check this out too before you cycle http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...before-cycling..

also id run your test for 8 weeks as these guys are saying

[Stevencusson]

My diet is pretty bang on guys. I walk around at under 10% year round. I got 40 Dbol from a buddy to try (25mg each) and some Clomid shit. Pretty sure my wife used that when we were having our kids.

How should I do this? 1 pill of dbol before workout? I was going to get more if I like it. Then after 2 months take Clomid for 2 months?

Where do the horor stories come from of acney, rage, ect. Ive used Trib for years and never got any of that. If that counts haha

[Zackery]

Where do the horor stories come from of acney, rage, ect.

It affects everyone differently. I never got any side effects. But according to "professionals" there is so much that can go wrong. Gyno, acne, hair loss, hair growth, cysts, cholesterol, depression, etc... Most of these can be kept in place with the right medication.

[stpete]

More research OP...I don't know anyone that does a 4 week cycle, or a PCT that lasts for 2 months. Tribulus is a far cry from prop or any other steroid. And if you have a fear of needles this isn't your game.
Oral only sucks for numerous reasons. Prop has to injected ED or EOD at least. If these are the only things available to you i suggest you find another source. Better yet, do more research and see if you really want to embark on this journey. It takes dedication and hard work. Oh, Clomid isn't shit. haha..We use it cause it works.
Good luck.
G

[Stevencusson]

stpete. Would this not be considered research? Asking question and getting answers, by definition I would consider it yes. I wasnt born yesterday, and understand that trib is a far cry from this game and only used it as an eg. Finally I used the term "shit" loosley

[lovbyts]

Research would be more reading a few of the 1000s of post almost exactly like your word for word. New member daily asking about 1st cycle. Doesnt take much research (doing some work on your own) to find a lot of the answers you are looking for so you dont have to ask the same thing that has been asked 1000s of times.

Take some time to read. You get more out of it than being spoon feed. If you get confused or dont understand that's fine, we are here to help most of the time. Dont take it personally or negatively, I'm sure if you think about it you will understand what Pete is getting at.