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    So Torn

    I do not know what to do. I am in my 5th week of Test E 500ml per week. My gains have been outstanding and I even shed down to about 15% bf. I had blood work done a couple months ago and I was at 306 on a 280-800 scale for.test levels. No energy, sex drive, and so forth. I have never felt better in my life! Sex drive is on point even able to get aroused by porn again and even without. Now I have heard how difficult it is to do PCT and I'm scared to get off and feel like shit. I do not have a local doc that is willing to help being only 29 and I.do not want to screw myself by cruising and cause too much damage. If I get bw done every 6 months do I need to tell my doc that I'm "on" for.the reason I want a full panel done? If I do can or is it practice to report someone using a controlled substance? My job and career will be lost if so. Any opinions would be much appreciated.

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    Sorry. Stats- 5'8" 29 yrs old, 215lbs. Also doing .25eod liquidex. Bench 315 flat, decline 405 this week. Squat 350 ( working on it). I have nolvadex, clomid stashed away for PCT. Decided no hcg for first cycle to see if any difference on the next one. Diet has been a work in progress.to dial in, but seems to be on point now as gains have drastically increased and bf has gone down about 5% as well.

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    if you are worried about returning to your pre-cycle state, then you'll need a great pct all the more. hcg will re-activate your balls even while on cycle, so you should really consider that, even for a first cycle. according to Llewellyn's book, he recommends high dose hcg for pct as well.

    imo, not a good idea to consider cruising for life, at this point. add a little hcg to your cycle and do a pct by-the-book. and see how your test level stabilize post cycle.

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    Yeah you are probably correct. I will look into my source to see if it is available.

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    i would invest in HCG, you already had low levels. I dont understand the reasoning of not doing it.
    No your dr will not report you to the cops or your job, but it will be in your medical file so your insurance may see it. And they can also denie you for things later because of it.
    I wouldnt tell your dr you were on. Just tell them you dont feel right and want blood work done
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    The asian hit on what I was thinking, if you're worried about your natural test levels post-cycle you really should be using HCG. If you can get it soon, it will still be effective to use through the 2nd half of your cycle, and even as a preemptive PCT. HCG has been shown to be most effective in stimulating the gonads when taken in frequent, high doses in a small amount of time. Just keep in mind that HCG appears to have a half life of 4-5 days, so make sure that you do not begin PCT until that amount of time after your last HCG injection.

    And it's funny, your weight lifting is opposite of mine. I never bother to find out what my max is, but my set max for decline is 225 lbs at 6 reps, while my squats can go over 500 lbs at 4 reps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    i would invest in HCG, you already had low levels. I dont understand the reasoning of not doing it.
    No your dr will not report you to the cops or your job, but it will be in your medical file so your insurance may see it. And they can also denie you for things later because of it.
    I wouldnt tell your dr you were on. Just tell them you dont feel right and want blood work done
    Good point. I've also always thought that for the sake of getting relevant medical advice from a doctor, it would make sense to tell him that you've been taking large doses of OTC prohormones.

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    in my opinion I would finish the cycle add hcg like they say, and do proper PCT and see where you end up as far as test levels go, mine were slightly higher than yours for total, but not sure about your free levels, my free was barely over bottom limit and I was able to start trt recently although not insurance covered.

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    You can get blood work done at a clinic without a Dr's script if you're worried about insurance finding out. You're too young not to do PCT. You should do a full PCT and bring your Testes back into action. Once you finish your PCT you should get blood work done to see if you're a candidate for TRT. I have a good buddy in his late 30's that's got the Test level of a 100 year old man. Man, he seems too young to be on TRT for the rest of his life but he's feeling better then he's felt in a long time.

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