Looking to start my first cycle need SERIOUS help from VETERANS

[jack3d555]

Hey everyone,
Im am currently looking at purchasing 3 bottles of anavar 60 caps per bottle 20mg cps.
Ive been working out for 3 years and havent been getting the result im looking for.
im 24 yrs old weigh about 176 .... Ive even gone to the doctor to check my test but he gave me some weird
number.. he said i was a 24 :S .. apperantly its normal to be between 8-29 ... dont know wtf that means.. wouldnt even let me have the hard copy results which was kinda weird...maybe i shouldnt of said i was trying to learn about testosterone since i work out etc.. probably didnt take me seriously...
anyways ive decided to do it oni my own so i thought i would start with anavar... im looking to put on some quality muscle
I understand anavar is mostly used for cutting but im hoping i can get a nice size out of it!
what do you guys think? Ive done plenty of research on anabolic steroids and will be probably experimenting with injectibles in the future.\
Also is there a bulking oral that i could take or even stack with something else to protect my liver.
please advise im really new to this and dont want to **** up my body by not asking the right questions...Im hoping some of the veterans can lay out a plan for me to get to my goal.

[gixxerboy1]

your 176. what height and what bf%?

[jack3d555]

im 6'0 and around 13-14%bf

[NaturalJohnny]

If you want to learn about Anavar look up BJJ's Anavar only log in the cycle log forum. One of the most comprehensive cycle logs I've ever read. I mean the guy actually has a feces test in it. Just go read it, it's frigging ridiculous. And he made pretty good gains with it too.

[jack3d555]

im an extreme hard gainer... anything i gain is because of creatine and it really pisses me off .. i need some good quality muscle

[jack3d555]

how do i look that up.. can you post it on here ?

[jack3d555]

can u send me the link please

[Capebuffalo]

im an extreme hard gainer... anything i gain is because of creatine and it really pisses me off .. i need some good quality muscle

There is no such thing as a hard gainer. You either eat or you don't eat. It all comes down to diet. Would you post everything you ate today?

[NaturalJohnny]

can u send me the link please

Just go to the steroid cycle log forum.

[jack3d555]

morning start of with 500mls of milk 7 45.... 9am half an egg sandwich about 2 eggs avacado...10 am the other half about 2 eggs... 12pm i had a burger and a chicken burger ...2pm i had another chicken burger ... 4pm i had some pasta with lean ground chicken... then gym at 540 ... 730 i had one scoop of protein 25g and about 300mls of milk and 5g creatine ... about to eat a chicken breast with some potatoes... and about 400mls of milk before i sleep ..my diet plan kinda sucks but i usually try to eat as much as i can.. kinda getting a slight gut from it but could be water weight from creatine..

[jack3d555]

you talking about members cycle results?
not a huge forum wiz either lol fml

[Capebuffalo]

You need to get your diet in check. Go to the nutrition section. You can put on size by eating better and eating more. Do you know your macros and tdee

[jack3d555]

no idea what those are dude .. :S

You need to get your diet in check. Go to the nutrition section. You can put on size by eating better and eating more. Do you know your macros and tdee

[jack3d555]

also the thing is im not trying to get fat im trying to get lean clean muscle... i need more protein intake i guess..

[sharmabrah]

You just answered your own questions by saying you don't know what TDEE and macro's are.