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    Stretching

    Hey guys just got some questions about stretching or 'extreme stretching' and when it should be used. I found this information about it

    Stretching:

    CHEST: Flat bench 90lb dumbbells chest high--lungs full of air-- I drop down into the deepest flye I can for the first 10 seconds or so with my lungs full of air and chest out---then staying there I arch my back slightly and try to press my sternum upward --this is absolutely excruciating--the rest of the 60 seconds I try to concentrate on dropping my elbows even farther down (I try to but I don’t think they are going any lower--LOL)---the last 15 seconds I’m pretty much shaking like a leaf, I have tears in my eyes and I think about dropping bodybuilding and becoming a tap dancer on Broadway (ok that parts not true)--My opinion is people should use dumbbells that are a little over half of what your heaviest set of 6-8 reps would be. I cant state this enough--extreme stretching royally sucks!!! Its painful. But I have seen
    amazing things with people -especially in the quads.

    TRICEPS: Seated on a flat bench-my back up against the barbell---75lb dumbell in my hand behind my head(like in an overhead dumbell extension)--sink dumbell down into position for the first 10 seconds and then an agonizing 50 seconds slightly leaning back and pushing the dumbell down with the back of my head I like one arm at a time in the bottom position of a dumbell triceps extension----going to the extreme stretch and then slightly pushing on the dumbell with the back of my head.

    SHOULDERS: This one is tough to describe--put a barbell in the squat rack shoulder height--face away from it and reach back and grab it palms up (hands on bottom of bar)---walk yourself outward until you are on your heels and the stretch gets painful--then roll your shoulders downward and hold for 60 seconds.

    BICEPS: Olympic bar in a power rack or squat rack about neck high---face away from it and reach back and put both hands over the bar gripping it----now either sink down with one leg forward/one leg back or better yet squat down and try (I say try because its absolutely excruciating) to kneel. Go down to the stretch that is almost unbearable and then hold that for 45 to 60 seconds. Your own bodyweight is the load. What I do is put the bar at a place on the squat rack in which I can kneel at a severe stretch and then try to sink my ass down to touch my feet. If its too easy I put the bar up to the next rung.

    BACK: Honestly for about 3 years my training partner and I would hang a 100lb dumbell from our waist and hung on the widest chin-up bar (with wrist straps) to see who could get closest to 3 minutes--I never made it--I think 2 minutes 27 seconds was my record--but my back width is by far my best body part--I pull on a doorknob or stationary equipment with a rounded back now and its way too hard too explain here--just try it and get your feel for it.

    HAMSTRINGS: Either leg up on a high barbell holding my toe and trying to force my leg straight with my free hand for an excruciating painful 60 seconds or another exercise I could only show people and not type here.

    QUADS: Facing a barbell in a power rack about hip high --grip it and simultaneously sink down and throw your knees under the barbell and do a sissy squat underneath it while going up on your toes. then straighten your arms and lean as far back as you can---60 seconds and if this one doesn't make you hate my guts and bring tears to your eyes nothing will---do this one faithfully and tell me in 4 weeks if your quads don’t look a lot different than they used to.

    CALVES: my weak body part that I couldn’t get up too par until 2 years ago when I finally thought it out and figured out how to make them grow (with only one set twice a week too) I don’t need to stretch calves after because when I do calves I explode on the positive and take 5 seconds to get back to full stretch and then 15 seconds at the very bottom "one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand etc" --15 seconds stretching at the bottom thinking and trying to flex my toes toward my shin--it is absolutely unbearable and you will most likely be shaking and want to give up at about 7 reps (I always go for 12reps with maximum weights)--do this on a hack squat or a leg press--my calves have finally taken off due to this.


    Static Holds:

    Different than extreme stretching. I do extreme stretching for each body part after its finished (holding into a weighted stretched position for 60 seconds)--- Statics are what I do immediately after a working set to try to create even more of an overload ---example: lat pulldowns-300x 14 reps rest paused to failure and then immediately I do a static hold which is pull the bar down 4 inches and lean back slightly. I fight like hell to hold it for 20 seconds counting (one one thousand, two one thousand, three...) but I usually end up shaking like a leaf on some movements (incline presses etc)--trying to hold a three hundred plus pound incline press in a 20 sec. Another example: Incline bench press, John Doe has just completed a rest pause set with 275lbs. He takes the bar off the rack and brings it about 4 inches down (as this is usually where peoples strength range is) and tries to hold it there for a true 20 second count. To be totally honest with you its nothing more than a personal favorite of mine to reach an overload threshold--- someone else might want to do burns down near the bottom for 6-15 short reps, someone else might want to do a 20% more weight negative.


    Say for example john doe was working his back and chest on a Monday would he extreme stretch both the chest and back once he has completed the whole workout? Or say he worked back first did his back to failure ect then extreme stretch the back. Then continue on with his chest workout and then extreme stretch his chest?

    Just a litte guidance thanks, would be very helpful.

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    Good thread and I can't express enough how important stretching is, I don't really like your shoulder stretch above but other than that it looks good. Ive grown via stretching and I mean extreme stretching were you would implement it before,during and after heavy/light sessions. A lot of guys forget about this but if done correctly those sticking bodyparts can really start to develop

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    You should be very careful with these extreme stretches. I came close to tearing pecs and biceps with them. Strained my biceps tendon numerous times. I was younger at the time mind you, but it can still happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GluteStriations View Post
    You should be very careful with these extreme stretches. I came close to tearing pecs and biceps with them. Strained my biceps tendon numerous times. I was younger at the time mind you, but it can still happen.
    . I agree, don't jump into this full steam ahead ypu can hurt yourself. As far as hanging with 100lb dumbbell, you are stabilizing with your scapula and your delts should be on fire, otherwise your not stretching your lats, your just hanging there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GluteStriations View Post
    You should be very careful with these extreme stretches. I came close to tearing pecs and biceps with them. Strained my biceps tendon numerous times. I was younger at the time mind you, but it can still happen.
    Very true, start slowly and build yourself up over wks

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    Good one, im gonna try some of those stretches!!

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    Interesting! How exactly do you mean are quads for example gonna look different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tx89 View Post
    Interesting! How exactly do you mean are quads for example gonna look different?
    I can't tell you exactly but my understanding it gives the muscle more shape and definition (separation)? I did read this but i can't remember the exact words. Maybe someone can clarify this?

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    Thanks Marcus, just wasn't to sure when they should be implemented.

    What stretch would you recommend for shoulders? Are you able to give an example? And by working your way up to it would you say, start at 30lb and do it for 60 seconds and work your way up in weight? Or start 90lb but do it for 15 seconds, then 20 seconds ect working your way up? Or start at a lower weight and time altogether?

    Thanks

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