Need help to complete my extreme cycle, a safe way.

[jboyv]

I am 6´2 & 191lbs & 40yr old male. This is my first cycle.

I know i will get a lots of people saying to me don´t do this, wait a few years. lift more before you do this. dont do trenbolone enanthate your first cycle. I am not looking for that answers at all, because i give a shit and i am going to do this anyway. With or without your help.
I am a tough guy, i can handle the bi. I will not cry for a little pain. But don´t get me wrong i will not die, thats why i am asking for your help.

M past have been many years of drug abuse, the lifting are helping me not to get back to that.
In the end for 12 weeks ago i was injecting 1.5g of crystal meth. Nobody believes it, but a couple of friends of me took 0.1g and fall to the ground. Enough of that shit talk. I am saying it because i wonder if i need extreme doses of steroid as well since i was doing that when i was doing meth.

I am 4 weeks and 2 days out in the cycle. I have been doing 400mg trenbolone enanthate a week, and i mixed 2ml of sustanon 250 in it. My trenbolone enanthate 200mg/ml 10ml vial is empty. I am not happy with the results. Everybody says i would get extreme results. Ok, i have been stronger, but i have not got as big as i thought i would be. I was 176lbs, and i am now 191lbs.

I am going to Thailand in 2 days, so my next injections will be there. I am going to stay there for 3months, then i will stop my first cycle. I have order
Tren-E Trenbolone enanthate 200mg/ml 10ml vial.
Testoviron Depot Testosterone enanthate 250mgx1ML*20amp.

I can get whatever i want in Thailand so feel free to tell me what i should do the next 3month.

My plan was to do injections every 3´th or 4´th day with 300-400mg trenbolone and 750-1000mg testosterone each injection. Can i do more? That will be 600-800mg tren, and 1500-2000mg testo a week.
My liver is fine for now.
And if this goes fine after a few weeks, maybe i should throw in some deca, equipoise and some winstrol? Extreme doses on all of it.
Or maybe some igf-1 or HGH. I believe i can´t continue the trenbolone for 3 more months.
After this 3 months i am going to have a good PCT, and i am willing to check my liver every months.

Please help me, i don´t wanna die.....

[red_hulk]

Aside from being strange, this really isn't the section for this. You really didn't lay out how you cycled, an ai, or a pct, instead gave more than enough unrelated info. 15 lb gain, if lbm, sounds good to me. It's not a miracle drug, and extreme doses, especially for first time, is not necessary.

It looks like you need to do research.

Edit: after really looking at the doses you mentioned at the end, it's for sure you need to do research. You clearly haven't.

[krugerr]

.... Where do I start?


You will find no help here for what you are trying to do. You said you will do this with or without our help. So why bother posting? You apparently have done little research, you are not in a place where you should be taking steroids.

[MuscleInk]

.... Where do I start?

You will find no help here for what you are trying to do. You said you will do this with or without our help. So why bother posting? You apparently have done little research, you are not in a place where you should be taking steroids.

Agree with Krugerr. You won't find any other site with knowledge as comprehensive as the members here, but you'll get nowhere fast with that attitude. Coming her with the "I don't give a shit" attitude isn't going to get you anywhere. Why would anyone want to help you!?!

[Shsm]

40 years old with the mindset of a 12 year old discovering porn for the first time...no offense but that whole post is atrocious.

[Perseverance1]

I don't really know how to help you based on what you've already said but I'll go ahead and give it a shot...

If you're 4 weeks into a cycle already of Tren E then you shouldn't push it anymore than another 10 weeks...and honestly even that is extreme. Keep dosing at the levels you are, don't increase it. Look into HCG, Nolva, Clomid, and Caber....you should purchase all of these as well as Armidex. More importantly, you should read about all of these drugs and learn what they are for and how they work...

FYI, the dosages you were suggesting moving up to are ridiculous even for the professional bodybuilders with 10 years lifting/cycling experience and an additional 100 pounds of lean body mass... 800mg tren, 2g test, deca, EQ, and winny?

bleh...I'm probably being trolled.

Good luck.

[red_hulk]

bleh...I'm probably being trolled.

Thought the same thing

[milky01623]

See above troll

[jboyv]

Not the answers i was looking for. I am happy with Perseverance1´s answer.
I don´t need caber, isn´t that for not getting tren dick? I am not getting that anyway.
And if i am what the heck. Mine work to much anyway.
And i am agree in don´t doing trenbolone more that 10 weeks, maybe i push it for 12.
But thats it. And then i will go over for anything else.
I am just afraid for gyno, and bitch tits. But that should not be a tissue here, right?

I know a lot about trenbolone, have done a lot of research.
But some say it would kick in after 3 weeks some say 5 weeks. But mostly 3-4 weeks. And i am now in 4 weeks and 2 days. Have been training heavily every day(bulking).
And i have no problems in putting on 30lbs in 2-3months without steroid. But then i would get fat.
And with steroids i should be putting on more weight, right?
And i have been seen a lot of youtube movies and read a lot. the more steroid you take the bigger gains. So you are all saying that is a lie?
And you are not being trolled.

I am not stupid. I know this is dangerous. I am very educated. Beleive it or not.

I am trying to get help with my dosages, if i don´t get any help then i have to help my selves.
I just wanted you to say that i should not do more than 1000mg testo a week, instead of 2000mg like i said. and i wanted you to say, don´t do more than 600mg trenbolone a week because its a waste of money.
That would be a more answer i wanted to hear.
So i answer my own question, i go for trenbolone 600mg a week, and 1000mg testo a week.
I will come back to you and tell you how its going.
Why should i not, i have heard about people taking 5-6000mg a week, so why is 1600mg a week to much for me?

And i am not afraid to die. But i don´t wanna die. If i was stupid and not educated then i would maybe die because of some of yours stupid answer. Maybe i would go for those insane doses i told you about.

[jboyv]

And have you heard about:

From kid to monster - Lorenzo Becker.

Are you telling me that he is a fake. Look what he did in less than 3years.
I am doing the same.
And don´t tell me he did not do steroids. Thats for sure he did.

[MuscleInk]

Not the answers i was looking for. I am happy with Perseverance1´s answer.
I don´t need caber, isn´t that for not getting tren dick? I am not getting that anyway.
And if i am what the heck. Mine work to much anyway.
And i am agree in don´t doing trenbolone more that 10 weeks, maybe i push it for 12.
But thats it. And then i will go over for anything else.
I am just afraid for gyno, and bitch tits. But that should not be a tissue here, right?

I know a lot about trenbolone, have done a lot of research.
But some say it would kick in after 3 weeks some say 5 weeks. But mostly 3-4 weeks. And i am now in 4 weeks and 2 days. Have been training heavily every day(bulking).
And i have no problems in putting on 30lbs in 2-3months without steroid. But then i would get fat.
And with steroids i should be putting on more weight, right?
And i have been seen a lot of youtube movies and read a lot. the more steroid you take the bigger gains. So you are all saying that is a lie?
And you are not being trolled.

I am not stupid. I know this is dangerous. I am very educated. Beleive it or not.

I am trying to get help with my dosages, if i don´t get any help then i have to help my selves.
I just wanted you to say that i should not do more than 1000mg testo a week, instead of 2000mg like i said. and i wanted you to say, don´t do more than 600mg trenbolone a week because its a waste of money.
That would be a more answer i wanted to hear.
So i answer my own question, i go for trenbolone 600mg a week, and 1000mg testo a week.
I will come back to you and tell you how its going.
Why should i not, i have heard about people taking 5-6000mg a week, so why is 1600mg a week to much for me?

And i am not afraid to die. But i don´t wanna die. If i was stupid and not educated then i would maybe die because of some of yours stupid answer. Maybe i would go for those insane doses i told you about.

Good luck with it...and no disrespect to Perseverance, but he's a junior member with less than 100 posts.

YouTube videos. Wow, then everything you know must be correct if it was on YouTube!

No ones calling you stupid. Ignorant, yes. Stupid, no.

[MickeyKnox]

Not the answers i was looking for. I am happy with Perseverance1´s answer.
I don´t need caber, isn´t that for not getting tren dick? I am not getting that anyway.
And if i am what the heck. Mine work to much anyway.
And i am agree in don´t doing trenbolone more that 10 weeks, maybe i push it for 12.
But thats it. And then i will go over for anything else.
I am just afraid for gyno, and bitch tits. But that should not be a tissue here, right?

I know a lot about trenbolone, have done a lot of research.
But some say it would kick in after 3 weeks some say 5 weeks. But mostly 3-4 weeks. And i am now in 4 weeks and 2 days. Have been training heavily every day(bulking).
And i have no problems in putting on 30lbs in 2-3months without steroid. But then i would get fat.
And with steroids i should be putting on more weight, right?
And i have been seen a lot of youtube movies and read a lot. the more steroid you take the bigger gains. So you are all saying that is a lie?
And you are not being trolled.

I am not stupid. I know this is dangerous. I am very educated. Beleive it or not.

I am trying to get help with my dosages, if i don´t get any help then i have to help my selves.
I just wanted you to say that i should not do more than 1000mg testo a week, instead of 2000mg like i said. and i wanted you to say, don´t do more than 600mg trenbolone a week because its a waste of money.
That would be a more answer i wanted to hear.
So i answer my own question, i go for trenbolone 600mg a week, and 1000mg testo a week.
I will come back to you and tell you how its going.
Why should i not, i have heard about people taking 5-6000mg a week, so why is 1600mg a week to much for me?

And i am not afraid to die. But i don´t wanna die. If i was stupid and not educated then i would maybe die because of some of yours stupid answer. Maybe i would go for those insane doses i told you about.

Good luck.

[stpete]

Congrats on your sobriety. But please no more recreational drug talk because it's against the rules.

Now, i can tell you have done some research on AAS as your injection protocol is pretty close to what i'd do. Reality is this, a person can take all the AAS they want. 2gms of test w/1.5gm of tren and throw some winny in at the end if they want, but growth will not occur without proper nutrition. This goes for the amatuer all the way up to the pro. And you have not mentioned your diet or training routine for us yet.

You have made decent gains already and not really sure what you're after. You will not turn into Ronnie Coleman ever. Not for the rest of your life no matter what you do. You have to be realistic w/your goals. And right now you're not being realistic.

Now, can you post up your diet(in detail, i want everything) and training routine? Give us that in detail as well including off days.

Thanks.

[warmouth]

Wieeeerrrrddd. Strange and I must be tripping from the L-Tryptophan cousing through my veins. If you insist on Tren, why not use Tren A? That way, if sides become too unbearable, you can just stop and keep your test going. You are running test too I imagine?

[jboyv]

I know i should do a proper nutrition, but to now i am eating all i want. And i am eating like a horse. I am eating 4-5 times a day 4-8 slices of bread every meal + a big dinner.
And almost every night i eat 1 or 2 times 6-8 slices of bread each meal. That would be 30-40 slices of bread every 24 hour.
I should probably throw in some proteins as well? how much?(will i get fat if i eat to much proteins?)
I started to train 2 split basis. 2 days on and 1 da off. After 1 week i started to train every day. Or 6 days on and 1 day off. But i try to train every day.

day 1: chest, shoulder, tricep. (1.5h)
day 2: legs, back, bicep. (1.5h)
day 3: same as day 1.
day 4: same as day 2.
day 5: same as day 1.
day 6: same as day 2.
day 7: off if i am tired, or same as day 1.
And so on. I take 1 day off when i am tired. I hope i will never get tired.
Some times i feel i got the power, and i do chest, shoulder, tricep, 10 min break and legs, back and bicep, the same day. 2-2.5 hour.


I have read what MickeyKnox have written about "All About Trenbolone", i know he says that 400mg is enough, with 100mg testosterone.
And why i don´t use trenbolone acetate instead of enanthate is because i don´t wan´t to inject so often. I can handle the sides.
Only sides i have is sweatting. I have put in 500mg sustanon 250 in my trenbolone vial.
And i will follow your advice, i will continue with 400mg a week, and i will add 500mg of testosterone and see for a couple of weeks.
I know you guys know what you are talking about.
But everybody tells me that i wil grow extreme, but where is the extreme? I am now 195lbs. My goal is not to be Ronnie Coleman. My goal is to be 265lbs,
but not in 1 cycle.

[gixxerboy1]

Everything you are doing is wrong. Your 40 years old act like it. You just passed your abuse of other drugs to abuse of steriods. Its peopke like you thay give steroids a bad name

[jboyv]

I can see you are a member with a lots of posts, so i beleive you know what you are talking about.
You say that everything i am doing is wrong.
Everything?
I got a personal trainer to write out my training schedule, is that wrong to?
And i had a couple of years with drug abuse because of all the problem i got from after my wife throw me out of the house after 16years.
I was clean for 16years. And i know i am never doing that shit again. It was a couple of hard years because of that bitch.

But can you be more spesific about what i am doing wrong?
I know i shouldn´t do trenbolone my first cycle, but this is going very well. So you are wrong. Some people can handle it.
And i am almost 5 weeks into my cycle, and i am not going to stop now in the middle of it.

[Capebuffalo]

RAZOR ? My long lost friend is this you?

[JohnnyVegas]

You are working your entire body three times a week and only taking one day off? Have you been doing that for four weeks now?

[gixxerboy1]

I can see you are a member with a lots of posts, so i beleive you know what you are talking about.
You say that everything i am doing is wrong.
Everything?
I got a personal trainer to write out my training schedule, is that wrong to?
And i had a couple of years with drug abuse because of all the problem i got from after my wife throw me out of the house after 16years.
I was clean for 16years. And i know i am never doing that shit again. It was a couple of hard years because of that bitch.

But can you be more spesific about what i am doing wrong?
I know i shouldn´t do trenbolone my first cycle, but this is going very well. So you are wrong. Some people can handle it.
And i am almost 5 weeks into my cycle, and i am not going to stop now in the middle of it.

yes your training schedule is bad
your cycle isnt good.
your diet is one of the worst ive seen
The tren barely kicked in. And you have no idea what it does to the other things in your body and other hormones and your taking nothing to help that.
So just because you think its going fine doesnt mean your body is fine.

[TT_Tweeker]

Man I could not resist to chime in on this F'ed up thread! I actually got up put my phone down took care of some things and this was still on my mind! Lol
As u cab tell I am new to this group and I had to learn some things the hard way. If I offended a senior member I would find where "I" went wrong. Bro, I can respect your change I'm lifestyle from drugs to the gym. BUT man this is for those that have put in the hard work and have sought the advise of others who have been where we are. If your looking to get empathy, sympathy take yourself to an AA/NA Meeting. Damn!
I'm sure a lot of you wanted to say it. Sorry I just had to!

[TT_Tweeker]

Oh and btw. I used to do the 6-7. Day a week work out thing. BUT. that is what I used to do/think. More has to be better. That in no way shape or form is right.
The body needs rest bro! It is a process not an over night deal. And with your addictive behaviors I'm sure you want results now. It again does not work like that! Patience and moderation bro!
If not you will kill yourself! Plain and simple. I truly wish u the best. God bless

[wh1spa]

Oh and btw. I used to do the 6-7. Day a week work out thing. BUT. that is what I used to do/think. More has to be better. That in no way shape or form is right.
The body needs rest bro! It is a process not an over night deal. And with your addictive behaviors I'm sure you want results now. It again does not work like that! Patience and moderation bro!
If not you will kill yourself! Plain and simple. I truly wish u the best. God bless

Are they your quads TT?

[lstbred]

Ok, Im a rookie but this whole thing looks like a f'n mess! If you were firing anything NEAR 1.5g of speed 3 months ago you would be lucky to come UP to skinny, and started with Tren? please. Theres no way in hell you could have any good nutrition. "I eat a loaf of bread a day, think I should add protien?" and you gained 16lbs of LBM?, nope. TROLL

[TT_Tweeker]

Are they your quads TT?

Yup! That was about 4 months ago.

[TT_Tweeker]

Wh1spa:
Yup that would be me. Is that u? Shoulders are crazy bro

[--->>405<<---]

this thread has disaster written all over it.

[wh1spa]

Wh1spa:
Yup that would be me. Is that u? Shoulders are crazy bro

Phark, them be nice quads mate.

not yet haha, I wish man. fair way to go yet.. maybe 5-6 years? LOL

[wh1spa]

this thread has disaster written all over it.