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    PLEASE CRITIQUE ........ Full Cycle from A to Z (AAS, Training, Diet)

    After a ton of reading and preparing for my 2nd cycle... need your input on Cycle all together

    Stats: 32 yrs, 5'7, 194lbs, 14%BF, 10+ years lifting

    Goal: Clean bulk, looking to add 10 pounds of solid lean mass.

    Gear for 12 weeks: Prop 150 EOD, NPP 125 EOD, last 6 weeks on Var at 75mg Daily

    ancillaries: HCG twice a week at 250iu, Aromasin at 25mg EOD, Caber at 0.5 E3D

    Pinning: (Glutes, Quads, Delts) 23g 1.5", 23g 1", 25 1", drawing with 18g

    PCT (3 days after prop shot): clomid 50/50/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20

    Other Supps: multi vitamins, Fish oil, Vitamin C, Digestive Enzymes.

    Part 2: DIET

    I am going for a Carb Cycling method... call me carb sensitive, carb intolerant, whatever it is, i just put on some major fat if i don't restrict my carbs.

    BMR: 1990 ... TDEE: 3184 (Active so X 1.6) Surplus of 500 daily for a bulk
    Total needed daily: 3,684 calories (rounding to 3700)

    Protein / Carb / Fat
    325g / 400g / 89g (High Carb Day)
    325g / 300g / 133g (Medium Carb Day)
    325g / 200g / 178g (Low Carb Day)

    MEALS: (will adjust amount depending on Carb Day)
    Meal 1: Protein + Carbs (Shake)
    Meal 2: Protein + Fat + Veggies (Solid Meal)
    Meal 3: Protein + Fat + Veggies (Solid Meal)
    Meal 4: Protein + Carbs + Veggies (Solid Meal)
    **WORKOUT**
    Meal 5: Protein + Carbs (Post-Workout Shake)
    Meal 6: Protein + Carbs (Solid Meal)

    Routine Split:
    Sunday: Back/Tri (High Carb day)
    Monday: Chest/Bi (Med Carb day)
    Tuesday: Cardio (Low Carb day)
    Wed: Legs (High Carb day)
    Thur: Delts/Traps (Med Carb day)
    Friday: Off (Low Carb day)
    Saturday: Cardio (Low Carb day)


    Your honest brutal constructive criticism is greatly appreciated.

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    I'm short on time to go into detail right now... but this doesn't need to be a 12 week cycle, 8 to 10 would suffice. PCT protocol is kind of odd. 100/50/50/50 and 40/20/20/20 preferred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    I'm short on time to go into detail right now... but this doesn't need to be a 12 week cycle, 8 to 10 would suffice. PCT protocol is kind of odd. 100/50/50/50 and 40/20/20/20 preferred.
    thanks for your input... will take your points in consideration. Please do get into detail when you get the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Romeo_ View Post
    After a ton of reading and preparing for my 2nd cycle... need your input on Cycle all together

    Stats: 32 yrs, 5'7, 194lbs, 14%BF, 10+ years lifting

    Goal: Clean bulk, looking to add 10 pounds of solid lean mass.

    Gear for 12 weeks: Prop 150 EOD, NPP 125 EOD, last 6 weeks on Var at 75mg Daily Is this your first cycle? if so, stick with test only.

    ancillaries: HCG twice a week at 250iu, Aromasin at 25mg EOD, Caber at 0.5 E3D Aromasin 12.5mg EOD. Drop the Caber but keep on hand.

    Pinning: (Glutes, Quads, Delts) 23g 1.5", 23g 1", 25 1", drawing with 18g Looks good but you don't need the 25g 1"

    PCT (3 days after prop shot): clomid 50/50/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20 Use Austinites PCT

    Other Supps: multi vitamins, Fish oil, Vitamin C, Digestive Enzymes.

    Part 2: DIET POST THIS IN THE NUTRITIONAL FORUM

    I am going for a Carb Cycling method... call me carb sensitive, carb intolerant, whatever it is, i just put on some major fat if i don't restrict my carbs.

    BMR: 1990 ... TDEE: 3184 (Active so X 1.6) Surplus of 500 daily for a bulk
    Total needed daily: 3,684 calories (rounding to 3700)

    Protein / Carb / Fat
    325g / 400g / 89g (High Carb Day)
    325g / 300g / 133g (Medium Carb Day)
    325g / 200g / 178g (Low Carb Day)

    MEALS: (will adjust amount depending on Carb Day)
    Meal 1: Protein + Carbs (Shake)
    Meal 2: Protein + Fat + Veggies (Solid Meal)
    Meal 3: Protein + Fat + Veggies (Solid Meal)
    Meal 4: Protein + Carbs + Veggies (Solid Meal)
    **WORKOUT**
    Meal 5: Protein + Carbs (Post-Workout Shake)
    Meal 6: Protein + Carbs (Solid Meal)

    Routine Split:
    Sunday: Back/Tri (High Carb day)
    Monday: Chest/Bi (Med Carb day)
    Tuesday: Cardio (Low Carb day)
    Wed: Legs (High Carb day)
    Thur: Delts/Traps (Med Carb day)
    Friday: Off (Low Carb day)
    Saturday: Cardio (Low Carb day)


    Your honest brutal constructive criticism is greatly appreciated.
    Reds..

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    The prop and npp alone at those dosages should yield some nice gains without the var for a second cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    The prop and npp alone at those dosages should yield some nice gains without the var for a second cycle.
    funny you should mention that... someone else suggested to drop the Var all together and up the Prop & NPP dosage to 700 each a week! As it is i am at 600 of prop and 500 of NPP weekly.

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    Any takers on limiting Carbs to pre workout meals & post workout ? just to fuel the workout and replenish glycogen.... would that still produce mass assuming one's protein & fats are high and he's in caloric surplus ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Romeo_ View Post
    Any takers on limiting Carbs to pre workout meals & post workout ? just to fuel the workout and replenish glycogen.... would that still produce mass assuming one's protein & fats are high and he's in caloric surplus ?
    None of that matters. Just hit your daily macros and spread it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Romeo_ View Post
    funny you should mention that... someone else suggested to drop the Var all together and up the Prop & NPP dosage to 700 each a week! As it is i am at 600 of prop and 500 of NPP weekly.
    You don't need that much. Stick to what you proposed and you'll be in good shape.

    As for the diet, i agree w/Austinite. Spread it out through the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    None of that matters. Just hit your daily macros and spread it out.
    austinite, i was waiting for you to get back and pick my plan apart

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    I think mickey and stpete covered it

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