oil based TNE

[fanof]

can anyone tell me how the pip from oil based testosterone (without an ester) compares to the pip from test prop? better or worse?

also just out of interest, how many mg of test do you think would give equivilent gains in muscle mass to 100mg of tren ace..
i know everyone reacts to compounds differently, and comparing aas isnt an exact science, but im just looking for an educated estimate.

thanks

[panntastic]

I brew my own TNE and its painless along with my own prop.
TNE is great when used on training days.
As for your other question I really dont understand it so sorry can't answer that

[OnTheSauce]

Probably double the gains for Tren IMO. Its 5x as strong as test, but that doesn't mean gains are 5x.

Tne isn't bad IMO for PIP. But I may just be used to it now.

[songdog]

I used it once no pain at all.

[valkyrie]

Probably double the gains for Tren IMO. Its 5x as strong as test, but that doesn't mean gains are 5x.

Tne isn't bad IMO for PIP. But I may just be used to it now.

Lolwut? TNE is not five times stronger than test! Test is test. TNE is instant acting so you can get a high from it but if really has zero bodybuilding benefit.

[senorrebo]

Lolwut? TNE is not five times stronger than test! Test is test. TNE is instant acting so you can get a high from it but if really has zero bodybuilding benefit.

Tren, not test.

[valkyrie]

Tren, not test.

What he wrote was "Its 5x as strong as test"

[Brick]

Tren is 5x as strong as test.

Therefore.

100mg of Tren = 500mg of test

[valkyrie]

Tren is 5x as strong as test.

Therefore.

100mg of Tren = 500mg of test

That's not what he said and that's not what I was responding to but now I'm interested. Please point me at the bro science manual that quantifies tren as 5x as strong as testosterone. That is one wacky ass claim I would love to hear what you base it on.

[panntastic]

As an addition to any cycle there are benefits of using TNE
If your adding 100mg of TNE every day and train 5 days a week that an extra .5g of test there's definitely going to be benefit for muscle growth there.

[Metalject]

That's not what he said and that's not what I was responding to but now I'm interested. Please point me at the bro science manual that quantifies tren as 5x as strong as testosterone. That is one wacky ass claim I would love to hear what you base it on.

They're basing the claim on the anabolic ratings of the steroids. Tren's anabolic rating is 500, while testosterone's is 100. However, ratings are based on a hormone's structural nature. What's more important is its translating activity. For example, Anavar carries an anabolic rating of 600, but no one in their right mind would claim the individual could gain more lean mass with Anavar over testosterone. Same can be said of Halotestin, it carries an anabolic rating of 1,900, but no translating anabolic activity.

I would, however, disagree with you that test-suspension has no bodybuilding benefits. The sharp spike in testosterone can be beneficial pre-workout...it's one of the only steroids that has this benefit. However, it's not necessary for most.

[valkyrie]

They're basing the claim on the anabolic ratings of the steroids. Tren's anabolic rating is 500, while testosterone's is 100. However, ratings are based on a hormone's structural nature. What's more important is its translating activity. For example, Anavar carries an anabolic rating of 600, but no one in their right mind would claim the individual could gain more lean mass with Anavar over testosterone. Same can be said of Halotestin, it carries an anabolic rating of 1,900, but no translating anabolic activity.

I would, however, disagree with you that test-suspension has no bodybuilding benefits. The sharp spike in testosterone can be beneficial pre-workout...it's one of the only steroids that has this benefit. However, it's not necessary for most.

Thank you!
I mis-stated that. There is no bodybuilding benefit to choosing TNE over another Testosterone.

[OnTheSauce]

The op asked how much stronger is 100mg Tren ace v test. I replied id say you get about double the gains from Tren. And that Tren is 5x as strong, although that doesn't mean 5x more muscle gain

[songdog]

That's not what he said and that's not what I was responding to but now I'm interested. Please point me at the bro science manual that quantifies tren as 5x as strong as testosterone. That is one wacky ass claim I would love to hear what you base it on.

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