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    Considering First Cycle Need All The Expertise I Can Get

    Hey guys.

    Stats are 6'1" 183lbs I've been lifting for 4 years. Diet is pretty much whatever I feel like eating. I am as healthy as possible all the time but make sure that my carb, protein and calorie in take are pretty high while keeping fat as low as I can. 3 full meals a day with two smaller or meal replacements between them. I'm happy with how lean I am and would like to keep my BF% and the look I have where its at, or a littler better, just looking to add some size particularly to my chest and traps.


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    Typical Day:

    Breakfast - cereal, two pieces of toast, fruit, and protein shake (24g)
    Snack - yogart, fruit, protein shake (48g) and any left overs kicking around
    Lunch - Chicken sandwich melt, with a garden salad
    Snack - same as previous
    Supper - Chicken/Pork/Steak with potatoes or pasta and veggies

    I'm looking at doing a cycle of dianabol stacked with arimidex and was just wondering if anyone has any experience with this? Results, side effects and PCT? I'm hoping to gain approx 20lbs with as little water retention as possible. I was looking at starting with 12.5mg per day of dianabol(1/2 a 25mg pill) for the first two weeks of the cycle and then going up to 25mg per day for the next 4 weeks and then dropping down to 12.5mg per day for the last two weeks to finish off an eight week cycle all while taking 1mg per day of arimidex.

    Let me know what you guys think and any suggestions!! Thanks

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    Oral only is a waste of time and your diet is awful. You need to work on diet more than anything else.

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    You really shouldn't run anything with out a test base. And adex is an AI to be run with just about any cycle. You need to look into HCG. And then run that also. As for pct just about everyone here will tell you nolva at 40/20/20/20 and clomid at 100/50/50/50 (each "/" being a week).
    As redz pointed out you really need to hit the diet section and get some help if you wanna make the best of your cycle and $$$.
    Also, my first and only run with dbol I startedat 50mg a day. 12.5 seems pretty damn low. Not sure how much good it'll do you.

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    Read Stickys

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    Thats a shit first cycle mate as papa said read stickys.
    You will look back at this when your more educated wtf was i thinking.

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    How old are you?

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    Sounds good guys, I will hit the stickies and do some learning.

    ScotchGuard I'm 25

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    I'd start more with Test E 500 mg / week (pinned twice a week) with an AI (Arimidex 0,25 EOD for example) and HCG (500IU). Pct same as above ^
    This is one of the most common beginner cycle but I might be wrong somewhere. Anyways, look for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterwazza View Post
    I'd start more with Test E 500 mg / week (pinned twice a week) with an AI (Arimidex 0,25 EOD for example) and HCG (500IU). Pct same as above ^
    This is one of the most common beginner cycle but I might be wrong somewhere. Anyways, look for it
    AND work on your diet. No Diet = No solid gains

    EDIT : sorry for double post, I fvcked up somewhere xD

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    Whats the diff of running HCG during cycle or just leaving it for PCT? Is it if you dont want your nads to shrink while on cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cj111 View Post
    Whats the diff of running HCG during cycle or just leaving it for PCT? Is it if you dont want your nads to shrink while on cycle?
    I'm still learning just like you, but I think it's because you wanna protect your little ones DURING the cycle. I've also read it helps to recover a lot when you reach PCT. Once again, I could be wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterwazza View Post
    I'm still learning just like you, but I think it's because you wanna protect your little ones DURING the cycle. I've also read it helps to recover a lot when you reach PCT. Once again, I could be wrong
    Mainly speaking, testicular atrophy. But sperm volume and production also. Below is all you need to know about HCG. It's a good read and will answer any and all questions on the subject

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.USBAD4e9LCS

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    You must have a fast metobelism beacuse that diet sucks.You look good but I would go to the diet section and post your diet.Then read the stickys and get a real cycle.Good luck bro!

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    Well I decided not to run hcg during the cycle and I'm still shooting sperm across the room on a daily basis. Hopefully it keeps up

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