2nd Cycle issues with Deca????

[stevet68]

1st Cycle:
Test-E 500/wk weeks 1-12 (taken 250 twice/week)
D-Bol 40/day weeks 1-4
Arim .25/EOD weeks 2-12
HCG last few weeks
PCT Standard Clomid/Nolvadex

Current Cycle:
Test-E 500/wk weeks 1-12 (taken 250 twice/week)
Test-P 150/EOD weeks 13-14
Deca 250/wk weeks 1-11
D-Bol 40/day weeks 1-5
Arim .5/EOD weeks 1-14
HCG 250/2xweek weeks 5-14
Prami .5/ED weeks 3-14
PCT Standard Clomid/Nolvadex

On my first cycle I did not experience any side effect and made solid gains which I kept most of. For my 2nd cycle I wanted to stick to the same basic cycle but add Deca (I want to eventually try Tren and this was the course I selected) During this cycle I have had no appetite and have to force feed myself to get anywhere close to my 4000cal plan. I am also having trouble sleeping, I fall asleep fine but wake up constantly and have very powerful (bad) dreams. I had Prami on hand in case it was needed so I started taking it for its sleep help, it has helped a little (I have not had any issues with ED so far) Getting to the gym and working out hard is a bitch when I have not had a good night sleep

I have read about guys getting increased appetite on Deca and some getting similar results to me. Anyone have any suggestions or see anything I am doing wrong?

[largerthannormal]

I cant answer as to why you are not sleeping well.

But there are a few peps you could try that do help with sleep.

GHRH/GHRP combos work well...

[bigsiv]

How far into cycle are you?

Your deca dosage looks pretty lol IMO

If you had solid gains on 500mgs of test why have you bumped it up to a gram on your second cycle?

Appetite and insomnia are the result in the 19nor you are taking. If you are having strong/bad sides of 250mgs of deca, teen will be much much worse

[bigsiv]

Pretty low not lol

[stevet68]

How far into cycle are you?

Your deca dosage looks pretty lol IMO

If you had solid gains on 500mgs of test why have you bumped it up to a gram on your second cycle?

Appetite and insomnia are the result in the 19nor you are taking. If you are having strong/bad sides of 250mgs of deca, teen will be much much worse

I had originally planned to increase my Deca dosage to 375/wk then 500/wk but I am already feeling like crap so I did not want to make it worse without getting advice

I have not increased my Test dosage, first cycle was 500/wk, this cycle is 500/wk

I am glad i opted to try the Deca before Tren, if the sides are worse I would be hurting

[stevet68]

How far into cycle are you?

Your deca dosage looks pretty lol IMO

If you had solid gains on 500mgs of test why have you bumped it up to a gram on your second cycle?

Appetite and insomnia are the result in the 19nor you are taking. If you are having strong/bad sides of 250mgs of deca, teen will be much much worse

Sorry, missed a question, I am currently just starting week #4

[justo]

Sorry, missed a question, I am currently just starting week #4

I agree with bigsiv! How comes you doubles your dosage when you made decent gains before? More is not always better.

[stevet68]

I agree with bigsiv! How comes you doubles your dosage when you made decent gains before? More is not always better.

I have not increased my Test dosage, first cycle was 500/wk, this cycle is 500/wk

[D2'd]

Try increasing your Adex to .5 EOD. Personally, .25 EOD does nothing for me. NM, I was looking at your first run....

[stevet68]

Bump!

[stevet68]

Please help

[Lunk1]

Dbol makes me lethargic as hell. Some of you sleep issues could be contributed to Deca..19nors can effect ppls sleep (not just tren).

The biggest issue I see with the proposed cycle is the Deca dose. I would def. consider raising it to 400-600mg or get rid of it. That low dose is a therapeutic dose for most!

[stevet68]

Dbol makes me lethargic as hell. Some of you sleep issues could be contributed to Deca..19nors can effect ppls sleep (not just tren).

The biggest issue I see with the proposed cycle is the Deca dose. I would def. consider raising it to 400-600mg or get rid of it. That low dose is a therapeutic dose for most!

Ok, I will just drop the Dbol and raise the Deca to 500mg/week and see if that helps

Thanks Lunk!

[Lunk1]

Ok, I will just drop the Dbol and raise the Deca to 500mg/week and see if that helps

Thanks Lunk!

The dreams and bad sleep could also be atributed to Deca...some are sensetive to 19nor compounds. Try OTC sleep aid that contains dyphenhydromine