How long can you run Var?

[Falx]

I had been told that Var may be able to be run year round, but it doesn't seem correct. I would think the body needs a break from just about anything, but how long is safe for this? New to the world of roids and trying to do it right. Thanks

[Gaspaco]

6weeks

[marcus300]

What are your stats

What cycle are you considering

[Falx]

Looking for some advice on a cycle really.

5'9"
170
bf around 13-14

Staying lean and hard and around 180 is what I'm after.
Thanks for any insight

[austinite]

What number of previous cycles, what did you cycle in the past, how long have you been training?

[Falx]

What number of previous cycles, what did you cycle in the past, how long have you been training?

Mid 40's and have been training pretty hard for last 18 mos, and for the most part since a teenager. No cycles before. Thanks

[ppwc1985]

If first cycle should be test only, but to your ? I run var from 6-8 weeks. It's mild but still over time affects your kidneys so no to year round use.

[Falx]

If first cycle should be test only, but to your ? I run var from 6-8 weeks. It's mild but still over time affects your kidneys so no to year round use.

Thanks

[tdoe11]

Var is considered milder on your liver values, but can reek havoc on your lipids. That being said it will raise liver enzymes it is a 17aa steroid.

[Falx]

Var is considered milder on your liver values, but can reek havoc on your lipids. That being said it will raise liver enzymes it is a 17aa steroid.

Thank you...anyone have a suggestion for a 1st time cycle? Again trying to add 10-12 lbs that stays but more interested in staying hard and lean than real bulk.

[MuscleInk]

Thank you...anyone have a suggestion for a 1st time cycle? Again trying to add 10-12 lbs that stays but more interested in staying hard and lean than real bulk.

Hey Falx, no one's brought it up as far as I can tell, but have you had your testosterone checked? Your bio says you're 47. I'm just curious if you've had any blood work done to assess your hormone function and see where your current values are at. You may be a candidate for TRT at your age and you may even see some benefit with TRT doses of cypionate or enthanate before jumping ahead to a full cycle.

Just something to consider.

[tdoe11]

Hey Falx, no one's brought it up as far as I can tell, but have you had your testosterone checked? Your bio says you're 47. I'm just curious if you've had any blood work done to assess your hormone function and see where your current values are at. You may be a candidate for TRT at your age and you may even see some benefit with TRT doses of cypionate or enthanate before jumping ahead to a full cycle. Just something to consider.

Very good advice . TRT might bring you a long ways. Then later a cycle of test only can help gains to continue.

[Falx]

Hey Falx, no one's brought it up as far as I can tell, but have you had your testosterone checked? Your bio says you're 47. I'm just curious if you've had any blood work done to assess your hormone function and see where your current values are at. You may be a candidate for TRT at your age and you may even see some benefit with TRT doses of cypionate or enthanate before jumping ahead to a full cycle.

Just something to consider.

Last blood work I did have it checked and do not remember where I was but I know it was ok...that was 4 mos ago.

[tdoe11]

Last blood work I did have it checked and do not remember where I was but I know it was ok...that was 4 mos ago.

Well then IMO a test only cycle should be what's in store for you. 500mgs a week 12 weeks will produce excellent gains if diet and training are in order. Make sure you have an ai, hcg and a solid pct lined up and enjoy sir

[ppwc1985]

Last blood work I did have it checked and do not remember where I was but I know it was ok...that was 4 mos ago.

who told you it was alright? If it was the dr you may want to get a copy of it and post it here just so we can check if it was ok unless you know where you should be and keep up with it yourself.

[MuscleInk]

Well then IMO a test only cycle should be what's in store for you. 500mgs a week 12 weeks will produce excellent gains if diet and training are in order. Make sure you have an ai, hcg and a solid pct lined up and enjoy sir

^^^Agreed! If your blood work is "normal" and you've trained consistently for at least a year (seems to be the case here), start with the basics as prescribed. Nutrition will be far more important. You will short change the benefits of anabolics if diet isn't clean and calories above TDEE daily to gain lean muscle.

[Falx]

^^^Agreed! If your blood work is "normal" and you've trained consistently for at least a year (seems to be the case here), start with the basics as prescribed. Nutrition will be far more important. You will short change the benefits of anabolics if diet isn't clean and calories above TDEE daily to gain lean muscle.

Good point, it was the doc who did it...I think I will go again and get the stats to post.
Nutrition as far as quality, is rock star..all good foods, etc but prob need to eat more...as far as test, sorry for being new but I see test prop, cyp, etc. Please throw a suggestion out there as far as which one and I should be all good as far as a start. Really appreciate the time from everyone on my questions. Thank you,

[MuscleInk]

Good point, it was the doc who did it...I think I will go again and get the stats to post.
Nutrition as far as quality, is rock star..all good foods, etc but prob need to eat more...as far as test, sorry for being new but I see test prop, cyp, etc. Please throw a suggestion out there as far as which one and I should be all good as far as a start. Really appreciate the time from everyone on my questions. Thank you,

Current blood work will be helpful. With respect to type of testosterone, to some degree it's a matter of personal preference. Some guys like proprionate but because its a short ester with a shorter half life, it needs to be injected more frequently. I prefer cypionate or enthanate. Both are long esters and can be injected once a week, twice a week, or every other day depending on your protocol and doses. You must also have an aromatase inhibitor (AI), HCG, and a proper PCT with SERMs to help you through the post cycle phase when your body is trying to restart its natural testosterone (the only exception is for men on TRT as they generally would not benefit from a PCT protocol anyway).

Nutrition is absolutely key. Almost everyone says their diet is clean. Most guys will get examples of diets online and stick to chicken, nuts, beef, cottage cheese, etc. There is far more to nutrition than eating clean. If your goal is to gain and maintain mass, you need to determine your TDEE and eat above that daily to achieve any real gains. If your goal is to drop body fat, eating the right number of calories and proportion of macros BELOW your TDEE is essential to succeed.

If any of the above terms are unfamiliar to you, I urge you to do a lot more reading before proceeding with a cycle. It's essential to know what you are injecting, how to inject, when to inject, what ancillary compounds to run to minimize risks and side effects, to know what those side effects are and how they could be a threat to your health.....and so on. Anabolic use is far more than just injecting compounds. Educate before you medicate and take the time to learn what these compounds can and cannot do to avoid putting your health at risk. Poorly managed cycles WILL lead to all kinds of problems.

There is a thread here somewhere on cycles for first timers. That is a mandatory read in my opinion. I'll see if I can find the link and post it for you.

[MuscleInk]

Start here:

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...rst-cycle.html

[Falx]

[QUOTE=MuscleInk;6688900]Start here:

Agree on all you said and read the link/post before I actually even posted but will re read again! Want to do it right...thanks again for the help...be back soon with new questions as all evolves and any blood stats on T.

[MuscleInk]

Good luck. Keep the links in the "stickies" handy. They are worth their weight in gold!

Be safe.

[Cuz]

Thank you...anyone have a suggestion for a 1st time cycle? Again trying to add 10-12 lbs that stays but more interested in staying hard and lean than real bulk.

Check out some of the stickies in the steroid forum. There are many "first cycle planning..." threads to help you in your first attempt at a steroid cycle. Everything you need to know is already written there.

[Juced_porkchop]

I had been told that Var may be able to be run year round, but it doesn't seem correct. I would think the body needs a break from just about anything, but how long is safe for this? New to the world of roids and trying to do it right. Thanks

year round?
besides the negative liver effect that would come with its use, it will totally screw up your blood aswell.... year round is just NOT a good idea...

6 weeks if good. I rec keeping it under 10 weeks. 6-8 weeks is good, I have even ran it at 4 weeks. but 6-8 is best result with var imo. and at 40-80mg ed.

[Falx]

Check out some of the stickies in the steroid forum. There are many "first cycle planning..." threads to help you in your first attempt at a steroid cycle. Everything you need to know is already written there.

I'll make sure to keep reading, thanks!

[Falx]

year round?
besides the negative liver effect that would come with its use, it will totally screw up your blood aswell.... year round is just NOT a good idea...

6 weeks if good. I rec keeping it under 10 weeks. 6-8 weeks is good, I have even ran it at 4 weeks. but 6-8 is best result with var imo. and at 40-80mg ed.

Thanks for the solid into on this.

[Ashop]

I had been told that Var may be able to be run year round, but it doesn't seem correct. I would think the body needs a break from just about anything, but how long is safe for this? New to the world of roids and trying to do it right. Thanks

ANAVAR is very mild and I think its best when ran in longer durations,,,8-10 weeks.