First Anavar cycle for female

[KiwiG]

Hi everyone.

I am new here and have started my first cycle of Anavar (I'm on day 4). A little about me...

5'5
CW: 145lb
Weight before bulk (3 1/2 months ago): 130lb
Body fat before bulk: 15%
Age: 28

Lifting for 2 years but only very seriously for one year.

I have just started my cutting phase. I went a bit crazy and gained more fat than I would have liked during my bulk but I did increase strength exponentially, and naturally. Started deadlifts at 170lb and now am doing 225lb.

I have started taking Anavar in the hope to preserve as much muscle mass as I can whilst leaning out, and if I gain some then bonus!

Workout Regime: 5 days of HIIT on the stair master and treadmill for 30 mins in the AM on an empty stomach. Mon - Quad dom. Tues - Chest/Back. Wed - Ham/Glutes. Thurs - Shoulders. Fri - Bi's and Tri's. Sat - Plyo Legs focused. Sunday REST.

I am 10 days into carb depletion but had a refeed two days ago so am back to my starting weight. I am trying the ultra low carb way of Carb Nite from John Kiefer. I think I will do this for 4 weeks and then try his Carb Back-loading technic where you eat carbs after your PM weight session until bed. I am a little nervous about doing this since my goal is fat loss but I also don't want my muscle to waste away by not feeding it carbs at the right time.

I am taking 10mg around 10am of Anavar per day. Should I be splitting that into two, 5mg morning and 5mg at night??

I am eating between 1500 - 1700 calories per day with a ratio of 45% protein (165g), 40% fat (70g) and 15% carbs (60g).

I would love any feedback about my diet, exercise and anavar usage so I get the most out of this as possible. I'm concerned about my diet/calories/ratio the most as I'm not sure whether I should go straight into carb back-loading whilst on anavar or continue to really limit carb intake so I can lean down as much as possible. I would like to get to 10-12% body fat and maintain that until my first competition next year.

As of right now I don't think I've had any effects of the anavar, but it has only been 4 days. I should also mention that I am taking Dexyfen and D.I.E.T, the fat burners and thermogenic. I've been on those for about 2 weeks and haven't lost a single pound. My sleep has been disruptive but I think that's more the carb depletion than the anavar.

Any advice, help, tips etc would be much appreciated. I will post pics soon and keep you all updated throughout my journey.

Thanks!!

[Red Bastard]

Congrats on your great strength gains!! And, best wishes for your cut!!

My girlfriend is on 10mg/day. She splits it between am and pm. Some may say that's unnecessary, but anything one does to even out hormone levels can't hurt.

On a TMI note, her period came 4 days early, last time. Yes, I do keep track. Lol! And, she's definitely more orgasmic!!

[< <Samson> >]

Looks good 2 me.


No prob with splitting it. . .


Legit Var right? What brand?

Awesome strength too

[zodia]

I'm excited to hear how it goes for you. I'm starting my first cycle next week only mine is for bulking this time but thought if I handled it well I'd use it later for cut. keep us up to date.

[KiwiG]

Looks good 2 me.


No prob with splitting it. . .


Legit Var right? What brand?

Awesome strength too

Thanks mate!

90% sure it's legit. I've seen other people's results with this brand. On the bottle it says Oxavar. My supplier said it was Biotech stuff. L

[KiwiG]

I'm excited to hear how it goes for you. I'm starting my first cycle next week only mine is for bulking this time but thought if I handled it well I'd use it later for cut. keep us up to date.

Good luck to you too. I'll definitely keep you posted on ny cut. Today is day 5 and I don't know if it's just me but I already feel harder. My abs underneath my bulk fat haha, are feeling like rocks :-D does this sound like var or just my increase in HIIT?

[< <Samson> >]

90% sure it's legit. I've seen other people's results with this brand. On the bottle it says Oxavar. My supplier said it was Biotech stuff. L

90% < lol, I think that's the best I'd give anything unless its from a real pharmacy

Looks good though, good luck with the cycle

[zodia]

kiwig...... my biggest fear with var is they often fake it with dbol. so you see results but as a woman you could get nasty sides too. that's. awesome if you are seeing results already! I hope things keep going well for you.

[tdoe11]

Thanks mate!

90% sure it's legit. I've seen other people's results with this brand. On the bottle it says Oxavar. My supplier said it was Biotech stuff. L

Please update us in how biotech treats you

[Giggle]

Hi there - it's great to see another girl posting!
I would divide up the dose - probably fine to do it either way but for us women its really better to do it as safely as possible.

Just my thoughts about your training...you are doing legs on Monday and Wednesday, and back on Tuesday. If it were me I'd spread them out somewhat. These are the "hard" days and my low back takes a hit from legs AND back, so you might try to put something easier in between.
Yes, with Anavar if you're new to it, you will see changes fairly quickly if you're lean enough. Pretty dramatic that first time!
Good luck

[KiwiG]

Hi there - it's great to see another girl posting!
I would divide up the dose - probably fine to do it either way but for us women its really better to do it as safely as possible.

Just my thoughts about your training...you are doing legs on Monday and Wednesday, and back on Tuesday. If it were me I'd spread them out somewhat. These are the "hard" days and my low back takes a hit from legs AND back, so you might try to put something easier in between.
Yes, with Anavar if you're new to it, you will see changes fairly quickly if you're lean enough. Pretty dramatic that first time!
Good luck

Gosh, I really hope it's not fake!

You are right with the back training. I do extremely heavy deadlifts for me and my upper back usually takes a beating and if I've done back the day before, then my deadlifts suffer. I have been playing around with my days recently because of this. I've been doing Bi's and Tri's on Tuesdays and back/chest on Fridays. I can't do back the day after my deadlifts because I'm too sore.

Haven't noticed anymore changes re the var. I will start splitting the doses up just to be safer than sorry. Thanks for all the tips!! Will keep you posted.... watch this space...

[KiwiG]

UPDATE: 1 week mark

Getting frustrated now. I've been low carbing for 3 weeks and on Anavar for one week. The scales haven't moved an ounce, literally. My measurements also have not changed. You would think that by low carbing and doing empty stomach HIIT 5 mornings a week I would have dropped at least a couple of pounds. Surely the Anavar isn't making me gain muscle that quickly that it would offset any fat loss as per the scales.

Any thoughts?? Do you think maybe my body is holding onto any food it's given because it thinks I'm starving it by not eating first thing in the morning? Do you think maybe my metabolism is slowing down? I'm definitely not restricting calories too much. I'm still eating around 1800 a day. Maybe I need to drop that and be really strict and only eat 1500 per day.

[< <Samson> >]

Hmmm,

Are you seeing any difference in measurements, or strength?

The only reason ask, is like the last cycle I ran - I swear the fat went pound for pound with muscle gain. I didn't gain any weight(maybe a few pounds) throughout the whole cycle. Yet at the end, my Bf% was at least 4% less & strength was up quite a bit.

Not saying this is what you're seeing, but it is possible.

Do you feel anything from it?

[KiwiG]

No difference in measurements as of yet and strength is down a little but I think that's because I'm depleted of carbs and only one week into my cycle.

I just thought I would have dropped some pounds from the diet and increase in cardio by now but maybe the anavar is starting to do it's magic so like you said, pound for pound. But at 5'5 I should be comfortably sitting around 135 pounds and be shredded. That's my goal anyway. Guess I just have to persevere. I've been 145lb for 3 weeks now! Not a budge on the scale...

[< <Samson> >]

Word


I dunno, I would think that you would either feel a hell of a kick from the Var by now and had a strength increase.

The carb depletion and diet restrictions typically don't effect strength while being on juice. This is for a guy though. . . I was eating at a pretty significant cal deficit & strength still went up. I would think it would be the same for a female.


No other effects? I would really think you'd feel a little juiced by now.

[KiwiG]

Nope, nothing :-(

I thought I was feeling harder in my abs but now I'm not so sure there's that much difference from when I wasn't on var. Today I have Bi's and Tri's so that will tell me a lot about whether I'm experiencing an increase in strength. My upper body is pretty ripped for a chick, so I guess that'll be the first place I'll notice significant gains.

Last time I did dumbbell Bicep curls I was doing 25's for 12 reps, 3 sets. Let's see today if I can do 3 sets of 12 with 30's.

[KiwiG]

That's the latest pic I have of my arms. We were just playing around the other night. I need to take proper full body shots for my before and afters.

[bass]

That's the latest pic I have of my arms. We were just playing around the other night. I need to take proper full body shots for my before and afters.

nice work! and stop playing around!

[kelkel]

Nice counter top!

Arms look good too!

[KiwiG]

HAHA thanks guys :-)

[KiwiG]

That was my last back shot taken on July 1st 2013 pre-bulk. And yes, I changed my hair color from blonde to dark haha. I promise it's all me.

[bass]

very nice but I can't see everything!

[kelkel]

Back is very lean in the pic. Looks good there!
Tough to take a back shot by yourself isn't it!

[< <Samson> >]

Shit, I haven't seen my back in years. . .lol

I say bunk Var. . . From everything I have read so far, the Var kicks in fairly well. At least well enough to a point where you can feel it.

Not 100% sure myself, since my girlfriend's Var is still sitting right in front of me. She wants to jump on, in a month or so after dropping a few more pounds.

[KiwiG]

I think my posing is a little off. The first one I think I look more muscular but that could also be because I'm holding more fat now since I have gained 15 pounds in my bulk. You can definitely see a gain in lat width and trap definition I think.

I'm going to keep on going with this var because I'm almost certain it's the real deal. My sources are trustworthy. Maybe I am gaining muscle and the scales aren't budging because I'm also losing body fat. I've also started taken creatine which can make you hold water so maybe that's aiding in 'weight gain'. It's only been a week on the var though and I've read it can take 3-4 weeks for noticeable changes.

[KiwiG]

What exactly should I be feeling in these first few days/weeks?

[t-dogg]

What exactly should I be feeling in these first few days/weeks?

Dressed as Bain? Haha

[KiwiG]

Dressed as Bain? Haha

Funny you should say that, you should see the mask I'm wearing HAHA!!!

[t-dogg]

Funny you should say that, you should see the mask I'm wearing HAHA!!!

Lol t-dogg approves of this

[bass]

I think my posing is a little off. The first one I think I look more muscular but that could also be because I'm holding more fat now since I have gained 15 pounds in my bulk. You can definitely see a gain in lat width and trap definition I think.

I'm going to keep on going with this var because I'm almost certain it's the real deal. My sources are trustworthy. Maybe I am gaining muscle and the scales aren't budging because I'm also losing body fat. I've also started taken creatine which can make you hold water so maybe that's aiding in 'weight gain'. It's only been a week on the var though and I've read it can take 3-4 weeks for noticeable changes.

definitely look more cut. I had no idea var can turn you into brunet!

[KiwiG]

definitely look more cut. I had no idea var can turn you into brunet!

hahahahahahaha!!!

[KiwiG]

Wow so had an amazing workout. Did dumbbell curls, 3 sets of 8 with 30's!!! Had a mad pump going on. Had to remove my versa grips coz my veins were so pumped and they were cutting off circulation haha!! Definitely feeling harder all over too, especially in the ole quads B-)

[bass]

be careful dearie, var is known to give some strength, don't push it or you'll end up injuring yourself. BTW, ask the mods to change your color to Pink like all the female members here

[KiwiG]

So I can't stop gaining weight! Everything is getting super tight on me. Yes granted, some of it will be muscle but I feel like a lot of it is fat too. Is that normal? It can't be right. Var shouldn't make you put on fat right?

I have decided to stop the Keto way of eating because honestly, I don't think my body is responding well to it. I'm going back to the way I was eating when I got my leanest and that was incorporating 100-150g of carbs per day. My ratio's when I got lean were 40p35c25f. I'm also thinking of tacking on 30 minutes of low intensity, zone 1 cardio after my afternoon weight session. I already do 40 mins of HIIT in the mornings on an empty stomach 5 days a week but I'm still gaining weight and there's no sign of leaning out.

This is insane. I can't keep getting bigger. I honestly thought Var was supposed to be the perfect female cutting tool. All that seems to be happening with me is gaining mass, muscle as well as fat. I have given up weighing myself because it is depressing me to see the scales going up and the last time I measured myself I had actually gained half an inch.

*Sigh*

[< <Samson> >]

If this is what's going on - its within your diet.


Just about any steroid will make you grow - muscle, fat, & water weight.

It's either water retention or fat(I'm thinking water retention).

P.S. On the positive note, @ least it's working.

[bass]

So I can't stop gaining weight! Everything is getting super tight on me. Yes granted, some of it will be muscle but I feel like a lot of it is fat too. Is that normal? It can't be right. Var shouldn't make you put on fat right?

I have decided to stop the Keto way of eating because honestly, I don't think my body is responding well to it. I'm going back to the way I was eating when I got my leanest and that was incorporating 100-150g of carbs per day. My ratio's when I got lean were 40p35c25f. I'm also thinking of tacking on 30 minutes of low intensity, zone 1 cardio after my afternoon weight session. I already do 40 mins of HIIT in the mornings on an empty stomach 5 days a week but I'm still gaining weight and there's no sign of leaning out.

This is insane. I can't keep getting bigger. I honestly thought Var was supposed to be the perfect female cutting tool. All that seems to be happening with me is gaining mass, muscle as well as fat. I have given up weighing myself because it is depressing me to see the scales going up and the last time I measured myself I had actually gained half an inch.

*Sigh*

I agree with Samson, diet is your problem. I found when cutting too much carbs I tend to keep the fat and stop putting on muscles, you really need carbs to lose fat, but clean carbs of course. rice works great for me. I like your macros of 40/35/25, I'd go even higher on protein, something like 50/30/20, and eat minimum 6 times a day, make sure don't go below 10% of your TDEE.

why 40 minutes HIIT? also not good doing HIIT on empty stomach, you should do it when you body has enough nutrients to sustain the high intensity training, doing HIIT on empty stomach that long you will eat away your muscles and hang on to the fat. 5 days a week HITT is too much IMO, it should be eod or 3 times a week. I would do 40-60 minutes low intensity walks in between when you can. and lastly limit your HIIT to 15-20 minutes.

[KiwiG]

I agree with Samson, diet is your problem. I found when cutting too much carbs I tend to keep the fat and stop putting on muscles, you really need carbs to lose fat, but clean carbs of course. rice works great for me. I like your macros of 40/35/25, I'd go even higher on protein, something like 50/30/20, and eat minimum 6 times a day, make sure don't go below 10% of your TDEE.

why 40 minutes HIIT? also not good doing HIIT on empty stomach, you should do it when you body has enough nutrients to sustain the high intensity training, doing HIIT on empty stomach that long you will eat away your muscles and hang on to the fat. 5 days a week HITT is too much IMO, it should be eod or 3 times a week. I would do 40-60 minutes low intensity walks in between when you can. and lastly limit your HIIT to 15-20 minutes.

Yeah you guys are right and deep down I always knew that I was doing too much HIIT and that it wasn't a good idea on an empty stomach but I kind of thought it might fast track my weight loss and that the var would preserve too much muscle being lost. When I got lean before my bulk I would eat breakfast, wait an hour, and then do HIIT 5 times per week for 50 minutes. I did get lean but I also lost a lot of muscle, hence why I went into a bulk because I wasn't gaining or even maintaining my muscle mass.

I think I stuffed up my plan of cutting this time round by trying that Keto way of eating. I really think my body held and stored all food I was giving it, which happened to be mostly fat. But that's OK because today I'm going back to what obviously worked for me last time which was the ratio of 40p35c25f give or take.

So here's what I'm thinking...

Monday AM = breakfast - HIIT 30 mins including 5 min warm up
Monday PM = Bi's and Tri's (maybe 30 min zone 1 cardio afterwards?)

Tuesday AM = empty stomach - Zone 1 incline walk and/or stair master for 1 hour
Tuesday PM = Quad dominant with plyos in between sets

Wednesday AM = breakfast - HIIT 30 mins including 5 min warm up
Wednesday PM = back/chest (maybe 30 min zone 1 cardio afterwards?)

Thursday AM = empty stomach - Zone 1 incline walk and/or stair master for 1 hour
Thursday PM = Shoulders and abs (maybe 30 min zone 1 cardio afterwards?)

Friday AM = breakfast - HIIT 30 mins including 5 min warm up
Friday PM = Rest

Saturday AM = Ham/Glute dominant with Plyos in between sets
Saturday PM = Rest

Sunday = Active rest (mountain bike, house cleaning, etc)

What does everyone think of that? Should I tack on some low intensity cardio at the end of my upper body PM sessions? I've left enough time between leg days and kept them off my HIIT days.

All your help and advice is really appreciated and is motivating me to get my mindset back into cutting. I don't think I'll ever allow myself to do a dirty bulk again. It's way too hard to get back into the strict mindset.

[< <Samson> >]

Seems too cardio heavy to me

[bass]

I agree with Samson again, try not to do cardio twice the same day, in between is okay. i'd say total of 6 days ew cardio once a day weather its HIIT or walk. make sure you eat good, don't starve yourself.

[KiwiG]

OK thanks guys :-)