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    North Korean Documentary about the West


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    Shit. Just finished watching this. I realize it is a North Korean propaganda film about propaganda.

    But, they are right and have broken it all down. I feel it is a must watch for anyone that feels there is something wrong with what is going on in this country.

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    The only mind control society has on me is the ability to raise my aggression and bp every time I run up against one of its constraints, and when I get my tax bill!

    Should be interesting to watch this.

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    dont know if yall have seen this before, but i found it to be rather interesting.. theres more to it than this, but this hits the main points. i stumbled across it on Tor awhile back.

    What is the Matrix

    In my opinion, The Matrix films provide the best metaphor our society has for understanding why organized evil and oppression are allowed to exist, and so I will use it for this purpose. While my interpretation isn't the only possible one, I believe it to be valid, comprehensive, and most importantly, illustrative of the message I am trying to convey.

    So let's begin by discussing what the Matrix is not. The Matrix is not the physical world. As far as I'm concerned, the physical world is actually real and is in fact governed ceaselessly by the laws of physics. Conversely, the Matrix is also not the Internet, despite what many seem to believe. The Matrix spans and transcends both these worlds. It has existed since the dawn of civilization, and it will continue to exist until its collapse.

    So then, what is it? Well, that's complicated. Much like in the movie, it's nearly impossible to convey the size and scope of the Matrix to someone who doesn't already see it for what it is. However, unlike the movie, I believe it is an ethical imperative to try to convey it in a literal sense, even to those who are so dependent upon the Matrix that they would fight to protect it. At worst, they won't understand or believe and will continue on about their business. In a sense, I believe Cypher was right to resent Morpheus for what he did, because Morpheus engaged in flat out trickery and deception to free people.

    But I digress. The Matrix is the social structure that subordinates Humanity to its will. It is the machinery of society that exists solely to perpetuate itself, its influence, and its power independent of any human need. It insulates us from each other and ourselves through deception, and essentially transforms us into servile engines of economic and political output (power). The machines that live off this power are institutions: large corporations, governments, schools, religious institutions, and even non-profit orgs. Every institution will reach a point in its existence where its primary function becomes self-preservation and perpetuation, instead of serving human need. At this point it becomes a machine of the Matrix. For example, when they become machines, governments cease to serve people and instead seek to extend their power over them; corporations prioritize increasing shareholder value over producing quality products or otherwise serving the public good; schools view students as a means and not an end; religious organizations equate membership with salvation (and actively oppose other teachings and even independent practice); and non-profits and charities spend more budget on fund raising activity than on their original focus. Inevitably all large institutions eventually become machines. They become too big for Humanity.

    In addition to the independent self-perpetuating machines that write most of our paychecks, the Matrix has several major cooperative and more actively sinister groups of machines subsisting off of its power and directly contributing to the structure of the Matrix itself. These groups are the Military Industrial Complex, the Political Industrial Complex, the Prison Industrial Complex, the Surveillance Industrial Complex, the Media Industrial Complex, the Academic Industrial Complex, the Agricultural Industrial Complex, the Medical Industrial Complex and the major religious organizations (not to be confused with actual religions, many religious organizations have abandoned the underlying principles of the religions they claim to represent). All machines in these groups either actively oppress humanity, or enable the oppression to persist. It is through their combined efforts that the Matrix takes on some of its more distasteful qualities.
    Resisting the Matrix

    Resistance is a mental state. The Matrix is designed to make it easy to accept what it tells you, and to make it hard to filter the Truth from the lies. Resisting the Matrix requires understanding its operating principles and assumptions, rejecting them, and helping others to do the same.

    The Matrix is fascist, the Matrix is deceptive, and the Matrix is bureaucracy. The Matrix is essentially the rule of the institution over the individual, and in it, the rights of the individual are subordinate to the rights of the institution. Individuals have to believe (or at least not actively oppose the idea) that large corporations have the right to protect their profits above all else, and thus dictate policy and law. They have to believe that this law is just, moral, and seemingly based upon reason. Or, they have to feel unaffected by the law on an individual level. They have to accept the program, and be satisfied with the rewards given for doing so. They have to do their jobs, pay their taxes, and be content with their salary (at least to the point where their salary and the stability it provides are appealing enough to deter risking leaving the Matrix). Rejecting these beliefs is the first step in resisting the Matrix.

    Furthermore, people must be insulated from the creative process. They have to forget that they are able to produce craft as individuals independent of large institutions, and they must feel entirely dependent upon the system to provide them with what they need. It is mostly through the violation of this principle that many who work with computers come to free themselves, or at least come to see the Matrix for what it is. Despite being products of the Matrix (for the most part), computers and the Internet enable humans to create individual works on a global scale: independent media, self-publishing, Free Open Source Software, computer music, computer art and graphics, and so on. Computers also enable independent people to communicate and build human-serving social structures outside of the Matrix.

    However, note that computers aren't the only means of accomplishing this, and this time period isn't the first one of Exodus. In the 1960s, for example, people departed from the Matrix en-mass and independently created art, culture, and music, largely catalyzed by psychedelic drugs. Unfortunately, much of this structure collapsed due to a number of reasons, the main one being the hasty, ill-considered and unsustainable manner of its construction and the subsequent institutional and legal backlash. Miraculously, however, many of the core ideas have persisted, and their proliferation is largely the reason I am Aware and able to write this document today. It would seem that the present catalyst is a combination of the Internet and again psychedelics. Both of these phenomena provide a way of disconnecting yourself from the programmed reality and assumptions of the Matrix and taking your perceptions into your own hands. However, your "perception" is nothing but your individual dream that you have created as you have gone through life. There is the dream of the society that has been passed down generation after generation and instilled into your mind by your parents, friends, schools, and institutions. And then there is your individual dream. Each step of the way in your life you have lived subjectively, and depending upon how and where you grew up, who you hung around with, and the habits you formed, you created your little dream. Your "theory" on life while you stay completely unconscious of this. Everything that you think is "you", "I", "me", and everything you believe that you identify with is simply not you. It is not the truth. It is part of the giant web of individual dreams that everyone is in the clutches of on our planet. This is one of the main reasons why this world is the way it is, why it is so chaotic. You will scorn anyone who does not dream what you dream of, and someone will do the same to you. It is impossible for us to live the same individual dream because we cannot know everything about each other down to our core. It is a constant fog that grows bigger and bigger and more dense as each day passes. It is your ego and it is my ego. The dream is not real. If we want to even begin to understand what it means to exist as a human being on this planet and evolve, this truth must be learned and it is just the beginning. Somewhere along the way, the entities that have been running the show figured out how the ego works, and they have been doing a damn good job at distracting us from trying to find a way out of our dreams and the dream of society. Psychedelics are simply a tool, but one of many to truly explore and expand your consciousness. However, whether it be psychedelic substances or meditation, it is not the ultimate answer. It is simply showing you the door, but it is your choice whether or not you want to enter into the other side.

    To persist, the Matrix requires control, and in democratic societies it maintains this control by filtering people's view of reality through corporate-owned mass media and television. In essence, the Matrix requires a form of thought control, but not in the science fiction sense. Instead, it achieves an effective enough manner of thought control by manufacturing consent. The large majority of the public has to "buy in". They have to believe that the news media give them an accurate picture of the world. And by and large, they do believe this. Everything the general public knows about the world, they know through the Matrix. The symbols and images the Matrix presents to them have become more real than reality itself. Hence the popularity of the ungodly abomination that is Reality TV.

    Note that while some media outlets do actively promote a political agenda of domination and control, on the whole it is not through some grand conspiracy that this process (or any process of the Matrix) functions. It is simply the way mass media is organized. Mass media is a machine that exists as a profit maximizing entity, and the most profitable news (and the cheapest news to produce) is recycled soundbytes and pre-packaged press releases from corporations and government. Furthermore, in the interest of preserving its revenue stream, news media cannot allow the public to hold any opinion that may threaten the authority and policy of government or the profitability of their sponsors, which are also machines of the Matrix and almost always directly involved in the business of domination and control. Thus the media must perpetuate the status quo. No news is good news.

    Understanding this bias in the media is key to undoing the filter it applies. Consider who the advertisers and sponsors are. Beware of press releases disguised as investigative reporting. When possible, confirm mainstream, corporate produced stories with coverage from places like IndyMedia (go local), Wikinews, GNN, Politech, Free Speech TV, Democracy Now, Free Speech Radio News, and FAIR. A lot of the time these sources also cover many eye-popping items that for some reason don't even receive mention on corporate news media.

    Last, and most assuredly not least, the Matrix seeks to identify and know its members at all times, in a misguided attempt to maintain control. It demands total surrender of your privacy to function in it. It is by breaking this last property of the Matrix that we come to truly free ourselves from it; to create economies, communication, and culture independent of its control.

    Of course, the ultimate form of resistance is to fully disconnect from any and all dependence upon and allegiance to government and institution; to remove yourself from the power structure of the Matrix, and contribute your economic output to resistance economies. It is this form of resistance that faces the most violent opposition from the Matrix, since providing this economic power is the primary function of Humanity, as it sees it.

    Unfortunately for many this form of resistance is simply unattainable due to family and social ties, especially starting from your first realization of the size and scope of the Matrix. However, unlike in the movie, it is possible to liberate yourself gradually instead of immediately, and in some cases this can prove easier than an 'all-at-once' attempt. It starts with disconnecting. Cut out TV from your life entirely, especially TV news and Reality TV shows. You should be able to get all your information and entertainment from the web, or from real reality (or from the occasional movie). Avoid chain stores where possible, especially for food. Supporting smaller (especially sustainable) business keeps entrepreneurial and independent business spirit alive. Getting and staying out of debt (especially debt without equity, or rapidly depreciating equity such as car loans) is crucial, as debt is a primary mechanism the Matrix uses to ensure your obedience. Also, if you are a salaried employee, working a 40 hour (or perhaps even 35) hour work week can be a big start to declaring your freedom from the machine and the corporate American peer-pressure to be a diligent slave. It also frees up huge amounts of mental energy which is then available for resistance.

    From here, a limited form of resistance whereby you leave the Matrix for short periods of time (long enough to conduct purchases, business transactions, and communications with the underground) is well within the reach of all computer literate individuals, and functioning as a consumer is sufficiently supportive of the Anonymous Economy for it to be sustainable. Moreover, the probability of discovery of this sort of activity can be reduced as much as you choose. Doing this effectively is the subject of this HOWTO.

    As you progress, you will notice yourself developing one or more separate identities, or pseudonyms. It is best to build as much insulation between these nyms as possible. They shouldn't appear to know each other, shouldn't really talk about the same stuff or buy the same things, and above all should be diligently separated from your original physical identity. Maintain different wallets, bags, user accounts and possibly even computers. In short, develop one or more Tyler Durdens, except without all the insanity, self-destruction, and sociopathic behavior. Or with it, if it helps.

    The adept and the entrepreneurial will find it an easy step from here to total freedom. The next stage is to go into business for yourself. It doesn't have to be an anonymous business, but those who manage such an achievement do enjoy the satisfaction that they are directly subverting the Matrix and helping to weaken its hold on everyone.
    Subverting the Matrix

    While resisting the Matrix is an act of mental rebellion, subverting the Matrix is an act of social revolution. It requires understanding the types of human communities that exist outside of the control of the Matrix. It also requires understanding what sustains them, and if and how they directly or indirectly weaken the structure and control of the Matrix. Once you understand this, it is possible to intelligently align yourself with communities that actively weaken the control of the Matrix.
    https://kpvz7ki2v5agwt35.onion.to/wi...php/The_Matrix

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    You should see their crazy propoganda lol.


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    ^^ yeh ive seen that before.LOL.. the birds will be eaten on tuesday!

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    I cant disagree with a lot of it, neither can I disagree with the Matrix post by 405 although it is LONG and wordy. lol

    I have been saying for many many years that Soap operas, reality shows, dancing with the stars and the likes are all just distractions to keep people from paying attention to what is going on around them and keep them pacified so they dont act out or up-rise against the administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    I cant disagree with a lot of it, neither can I disagree with the Matrix post by 405 although it is LONG and wordy. lol

    I have been saying for many many years that Soap operas, reality shows, dancing with the stars and the likes are all just distractions to keep people from paying attention to what is going on around them and keep them pacified so they dont act out or up-rise against the administration.
    hey u read it huh? yes it is long and wordy

    i also agree with a fair amount of both and TBH im sad to say it. u know thinking about life as it is for us in the US we just "buy" the story we're told by our predecessors (parents, authorities, TV, teachers, friends, role models, etc etc..) that we have to go to school, get an education, graduate, work, and pay taxes and bills. we have to work monday thru friday until were 60 and then maybe we get to retire.

    how much of this do we really choose though? how much of it are we fed and we just accept? interesting to think about. of course im not gonna dwell on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    hey u read it huh? yes it is long and wordy

    i also agree with a fair amount of both and TBH im sad to say it. u know thinking about life as it is for us in the US we just "buy" the story we're told by our predecessors (parents, authorities, TV, teachers, friends, role models, etc etc..) that we have to go to school, get an education, graduate, work, and pay taxes and bills. we have to work monday thru friday until were 60 and then maybe we get to retire.

    how much of this do we really choose though? how much of it are we fed and we just accept? interesting to think about. of course im not gonna dwell on it.
    I'm the same way. I dont dwell on all the propaganda from either end. I'm have no doubt I am a victim of being influenced by the Corporate Matrix monster but at least I'm aware of it and choose not to completely sucked in.

    I'm not ready to become a recluse or extremist survivalist quite yet so I will stay in the matrix and do what I can to control my own destiny trying not to get sucked up in the rat race or buying everything the TV/corporation tells me I need to be happy and make what I can so some day I can remove myself from most of the rat race and try to look at things more from the outside in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    dont know if yall have seen this before, but i found it to be rather interesting.. theres more to it than this, but this hits the main points. i stumbled across it on Tor awhile back.


    https://kpvz7ki2v5agwt35.onion.to/wi...php/The_Matrix
    Exploring the layers of the onion? Have you been playing on the dark side after reading that stuff about TOR and the hidden web?

    I'm intrigued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Java Man View Post
    Exploring the layers of the onion? Have you been playing on the dark side after reading that stuff about TOR and the hidden web?

    I'm intrigued.
    haha.. u remembered huh? yeh i looked around for a week or so and pretty much lost interest. from what i could tell there isnt anything on there different except child porn and other stuff to land one in a penitentiary.. therefore i stay away.

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    Some of you should watch FIGHTCLUB instead.

    I'm watching this now, interesting stuff, but a lot of stuff i'm already in agreement with.

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    Wow!!! That was the biggest crock of shit I've ever seen........ I found the coffee from snow and eating the birds on tuesday more believable and useful..... LOL

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    It's all true I tell ya, IT'S ALL TRUE!!!

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    Glad some of you see it for what it is.

    And for the few that think its bullshit, just go back to sleep.

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    LOL...... wheres my tinfoil hat and koolaid? Of course we have some issues..... are you just now realizing this? Tomorrow is Tuesday, I need to find some snow and some birds to eat.

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    Well that video is pretty funny, but I didnt post that one. The one I posted, if you research it, it is 95% truth.

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    405 That Matrix analagy is the TRUTH!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ78 View Post
    Well that video is pretty funny, but I didnt post that one. The one I posted, if you research it, it is 95% truth.
    I know exactly which video you posted, my statements were made because of it, I find both videos of equal value. What kind of "research" should I be doing to make me want to crawl down the rabbit hole with you?

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    "That's all the media and the politicians are ever talking about, the things that separate us, things that make us different from one another. That's the way the ruling class operates in any society. They try to divide the rest of the people. They keep the lower and the middle classes fighting with each other so that they the rich, can run off with all the ****ing money. Fairly simple thing. Happens to work. You know, anything different, thats what they gonna talk about. Race, religion, ethnic and national backgrounds, jobs, income, education, social status, sexuality. Anything they can do, keep us fighting with each other so that they can keep going to the bank. You know how I describe the economic and social classes in this country? The upper class keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes. The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor are there just to scare the shit out of the middle class. Keep them showing up at those jobs." -- George Carlin

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    Joe Rogan speaking the truth

    Society Trap - Joe Rogan - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ78
    Joe Rogan speaking the truth

    Society Trap - Joe Rogan - YouTube
    Wow..... Great video

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ78 View Post
    Joe Rogan speaking the truth

    Society Trap - Joe Rogan - YouTube
    Now that is a decent video!!! It won't work in society though, too many lazy fvcks. I remember an event in my life from over 20 years ago, I was riding along with my boss and he looked at me and said.... "if you don't learn how to control your time, someone else will be there to do it for you" I literally changed the way I did things that day and it turns out that it was the best generalized advice I've ever taken. I wish everyone thought that way but there will always be the lazy and the opportunists.

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    I didnt watch it but North Koreans are the last people to be talking about being controlled

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