How much prami ?

[MArz123]

Here is my current trt protocol for a week (these are weekly totals, i split this into two injections)
200mg cyp
800iu hcg
1.5mg adex

I recently added 50mg of Tren-a daily
Along with .25ml of prami daily (from sponser)

Not sure how to dose the prami? Whats the proper ratio of prami to tren?

Fyi-My baseline labs for prolactin was on the low side before the tren sitting at 4.9 (quest labs). I have not gotten new labs yet since starting the tren.

[jimmyinkedup]

after a week up it to .5mg and keep it there unless labs or symptoms indicate otherwise

[Euroholic]

You can start at 0.5 but dont go much more or will be very ill

[MArz123]

Thanks jimmy...what symptoms should i be looking for? ....definitely not "lactating", but the tren-somnia is present, and appetite is huuuuuge!!!

[Igifuno]

You can start at 0.5 but dont go much more or will be very ill

For some, including me starting dose should be much lower of you want to avoid those types of sides. I started at .25 and felt awful the next morning.

I would recommend stating at .12 and slowly working your way up from there to .5

[MArz123]

So what are the sides of taking to much prami?

(I assume they are not the same sides from the tren, which i associate with insominia, horse voice, dry nose, bloody boogers....)

How about appetite increase is that the tren or the prami?

[Igifuno]

So what are the sides of taking to much prami? (I assume they are not the same sides from the tren, which i associate with insominia, horse voice, dry nose, bloody boogers....) How about appetite increase is that the tren or the prami?

You can get very nauseous and just feel like sh*t at first when taking too much before your body adjusts to it.

First time I took it I spent 1/2 the morning puking and felt like a pile of hamburger for the rest of the day.

[MuscleInk]

So what are the sides of taking to much prami?

(I assume they are not the same sides from the tren, which i associate with insominia, horse voice, dry nose, bloody boogers....)

How about appetite increase is that the tren or the prami?

Common sides with higher doses:
- nausea
- dizziness
- somnolence
- constipation
- headache
- weight loss
- impotence
- malaise
- joint pain
- xerostomia
- influenza like symptoms.

I hate pramipexole

[Euroholic]

Take it from me i miss read .5 for 5 so i took 5 and within 20 minutes i was sweating profusely i was vomiting i had stomach cramps. And i slept for 20 hours and im not lying it made me so tired all i could do was sleep. But thegood part is. Because of my carelessness in dosage my body has become a customed to it ina way. I can handle .5 now straight off the bat. But mate this is some powerfull stuff tho i was truly knocking on heavans door.

[MuscleInk]

Take it from me i miss read .5 for 5 so i took 5 and within 20 minutes i was sweating profusely i was vomiting i had stomach cramps. And i slept for 20 hours and im not lying it made me so tired all i could do was sleep. But thegood part is. Because of my carelessness in dosage my body has become a customed to it ina way. I can handle .5 now straight off the bat. But mate this is some powerfull stuff tho i was truly knocking on heavans door.

Yes sir. Extreme doses can induce hallucinations, extra pyramidal symptoms, dyskinesia and more. It can be extremely unpleasant.

[MArz123]

Thanks fellas, i been taking .25-.30mg of the sponsors prami for about 3 weeks now and its been all good no issues....other than the tren-a sides...insomnia, appetite is huge!!
Should i go up to .5mgs? I guess labs are truly needed to determine but i wondered if there was a tren to prami ratio standard?

[porter321]

posted this elsewhere, but I'm gonna post it here too.
ok, so I've worked up to 1mg / day of Liquid Prami from the sponsor now. I take it before bed, and have not had much sides issues. A bit nauseous mostly. I am currently on 200mg/wk of Deca (nor-19) and I was hoping that the Prami would help with the anorgasmia issues. I can orgasm, just takes too long in my opinion and whatever chick I'm with's opinion too (struggled with this all my life, not just with Deca.) I am good to go again soon after I pop, but so far, it is not helping speed up the big O. Any other ideas on what could be hindering /delaying orgasm? and how to rectify it? It's got to be hormonally related... That's the main thing I was hoping Prami would help, am I mistaken??

[kelkel]

BW is the only real way to tell porter. You didn't say so I'll ask, you are running test as well, right?

[porter321]

yes, I'm on a trt dose of test cyp. 100mg/wk. and I'm in week 7 of my 8 week performance enhancing stack of Sust250mg/wk, Deca 200mg/wk, and Anavar20-60mg/d. Here's my BW from 7/13 last year, exactly which levels would you be looking at, Kelkel?

white male, 36 yrs old, 179lbs, 5'10"
Free Testosterone : 22.02 nmol/L
Testosterone: 259.83 ng/dL
IGF-1: 301 (normal is 53-331)
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin 40.95 nmol/L

LIPIDS
Total Cholesterol: 192 mg/dL
LDL-C Direct: 138 mg/dL
HDL-C: 48 mg/dL
Triglycerides: 105 mg/dL
Non-HDL-C: 144 mg/dL

Lipoprotein Particles and Apolipoproteins:
Apo B: 111 mg/dL
LDL-P: 1830 nmol/L
sdLDL-C: 37 mg/dL
% sdLDL-C: 27 calculated
Apo A-I: 124 mg/dL
HDL-P: 27.7 umol/L
HDL2-C: 15 mg/dL
Apo B:Apo A-I Ratio: 0.88 calculated
Lp(a) Mass: 73 mg/dL
Lp(a)-P: 254 nmol/L

Inflammation/ Oxidation:
Lp-PLA: 118 ng/mL
Fibrinogen: 302 mg/dL

Myocardial Stress:
NT-proBNP: 16 pg/mL
Galectin-3: 19.9 ng/mL

Lipoprotein Genetics:
Apolipoprotein E Genotype: 4/4

Platelet Genetics:
CYP2C19*2*3: *1/*1
CYP2C19*17: *1/*1

Coagulation Genetics:
Factor V Leiden: Arg/Arg (optimal non carrier
Prothrombin Mutation: G/G (optimal non carrier)
MTHFR677: C/T (~39.8%)
MTHFR1298: A/A (~58.63%)

Metabolic:
Free Fatty Acid: 0.54 mmol/L
Homocysteine: 12 umol/L

Sterol Absorption Markers:
Campesterol: 2.62 ug/mL
Campesterol Ration: 132 (10squared mmol/mol Cholesterol)
Sitosterol: 1.90 ug/mL
Sitosterol Ration: 92 (10squared mmol/mol Cholesterol)
Cholestanol: 3.20 ug/mL
Cholestanol Ratio: 166 (10squared mmol/mol Cholesterol)

Sterol Synthesis Markers:
Desmosterol: 1.59 ug/mL
Desmosterol Ratio: 83 (10squared mmol/mol Cholesterol)

Index:
HS-Omega-3 Index (RBC EPA+DHA): 3.6

Omega-3 Fatty Acids:
Omega-3 Total: 6.3%
Alpha-Linolenic (ALA): <0.1%
Docosapentaenoic (DPA): 2.7%
Eicosapentaenoic (EPA): 0.3%
Docosahexaenoic (DHA): 3.3%

Omega-6 Fatty Acids:
Omega-6 Total: 35.6%
Arachidonic (AA): 17.6%
Linoleic (LA): 11.3%

Other Fatty Acids:
cis-Monounsaturated Total: 16.6%
Saturated Total: 40.6%
Trans Total: 0.8%

[Live for the PUMP]

For some, including me starting dose should be much lower of you want to avoid those types of sides. I started at .25 and felt awful the next morning.

I would recommend stating at .12 and slowly working your way up from there to .5

Ya I heeded all the warnings and started at .1. I am almost 2 weeks into using it and still working my way up to .5 lol. I just took .35. First day I took it, I was up ALL ****ING night! Weird cuz most people get opposite feeling from it.

[MuscleInk]

Ya I heeded all the warnings and started at .1. I am almost 2 weeks into using it and still working my way up to .5 lol. I just took .35. First day I took it, I was up ALL ****ING night! Weird cuz most people get opposite feeling from it.

I'm about to start prami. Really hate that stuff honestly.

[jdpeters]

Take it from me i miss read .5 for 5 so i took 5 and within 20 minutes i was sweating profusely i was vomiting i had stomach cramps. And i slept for 20 hours and im not lying it made me so tired all i could do was sleep. But thegood part is. Because of my carelessness in dosage my body has become a customed to it ina way. I can handle .5 now straight off the bat. But mate this is some powerfull stuff tho i was truly knocking on heavans door.

You seriously loaded up the oral syringe to the top 5 times for one dose????? Oh boy.... Glad you suffered through it ok! Yeah, I should say you are more accustomed to it :-)