adex dose and axiety

[Ryan624]

alright so i just finished week 2 of my 500 test e cycle. first week i ran adex at .25 e3d. second week i switched to .25 eod. the past few days ive had bad anxiety. obsessive thinking, hard to sleep, low energy and pretty much an all out negative depressed mind state. does that sound like estro is too low? maybe im sensitive to a.i's? my first cycle i had a hard time dialing this in even with bloodwork. I know that the only way to tell for sure is bloodwork but i wanna wait a bit into my cycle for that because every dr. ive gone too during cycle has given me all types of shit for my high test levels and im afraid it will effect my insurance.. are there tests i can order online?? sorry for the long post. any help is much appreciated.

[RA]

Why did you up the dose? First thing I would do is back it down.

[Frontpump]

Adex does this to me too. It's not common, but it definitely happens. I only took two days worth of it because it gave me the most intense panic attacks of my life....WHILE DREAMING. So I would freak out in my dreams, forget that I was dreaming, and just have terrible anxiety attack nightmares basically.

I use aromasin now and have experienced no sides except the achy joints, which I take as an indication that it's working.

This is why we test one compound at a time.

[Ryan624]

ok thanks, just curious but would nolvadex replace adex?

[Ryan624]

not sure if im allowed to ask this but where can i find aromisin online? anyone have a reputable source. If not cool to post on here i can leave my email. much appreciated.

[RA]

Upper right hand corner.

[Who_Am_I]

are there tests i can order online?? sorry for the long post. any help is much appreciated.

Yes but hormone panels aren't cheap.

ok thanks, just curious but would nolvadex replace adex?

No, Arimidex is an Aromatase Inhibitor. Nolvadex is a SERM. They do different things.

[Ryan624]

thank you. are you sure they have aromisin? do you know what name its under? i cant find it

[Ryan624]

And i dont mind spending the money on blood work in order to not have to deal with dr. if you know of any reputable sites please let me know. thanks

[Frontpump]

Aromasin is brand name for Exemestane. But if you're asking that question while trying to buy it, I would do a considerable amount more reading.

AI vs SERMS also fundamental.

read more bro. Better to answer the questions before the compounds are in your body.

[Ryan624]

thanks. I was asking what name on the research site it was given. But i found it. And i am aware that nolvadex is a serm. but Ive heard of people taking it while on cycle so I was asking about it.

[Ashop]

alright so i just finished week 2 of my 500 test e cycle. first week i ran adex at .25 e3d. second week i switched to .25 eod. the past few days ive had bad anxiety. obsessive thinking, hard to sleep, low energy and pretty much an all out negative depressed mind state. does that sound like estro is too low? maybe im sensitive to a.i's? my first cycle i had a hard time dialing this in even with bloodwork. I know that the only way to tell for sure is bloodwork but i wanna wait a bit into my cycle for that because every dr. ive gone too during cycle has given me all types of shit for my high test levels and im afraid it will effect my insurance.. are there tests i can order online?? sorry for the long post. any help is much appreciated.

If E3D was working well with no problems I would go back to that regimen.

[RA]

I'll take some flack but I would drop it all together. 500mgs of test youll be good.

[RA]

People who say you have to run adex with that cycle probably want to sell more adex. lol

[Who_Am_I]

I'll take some flack but I would drop it all together. 500mgs of test youll be good.

I was going to go there but decided to leave it alone. Thought maybe he might be prone to sides or something.

[Ryan624]

k i ordered some aromisin. gonna back off the adex for a few days and see how i feel. I plan on trying the aromisin at 6mg a day to see if its just the adex that doesnt agree with me. what do you think of this dose? its crazy theres people on 500 test e cycles running adex at .5 a day with no problem and people that say to run aromisin twice a day and people who say to run it every three days. Im starting to think that i should stop reading shit onm the internet and just continue trial and error with bloods.

[RA]

This is the very best place for advice but everyone is different. Running 500mgs of test I have no sides and don't need anything else. Back off and fiddle with it if you experience any problems.

[jimmyinkedup]

k i ordered some aromisin. gonna back off the adex for a few days and see how i feel. I plan on trying the aromisin at 6mg a day to see if its just the adex that doesnt agree with me. what do you think of this dose? its crazy theres people on 500 test e cycles running adex at .5 a day with no problem and people that say to run aromisin twice a day and people who say to run it every three days. Im starting to think that i should stop reading shit onm the internet and just continue trial and error with bloods.

You cant go wrong with that. IMO e2 should be managed and there is no way at 500mgs/week you are within the clinical range for e2. Thats the approach I like to take. Keep my e2 within clinical range even when on cycle. You get the beneifts of e2 without the costs of elevated e2 (and they are many that come in the form of things you wont see nor necessarily feel).

[kelkel]

Running 500mgs of test I have no sides and don't need anything else.

You have sides RA, you just don't see them as they're internal.

[Ryan624]

alright so just a follow up I took two days off lifting and went back in the gym today. My shoulders were sore as shit trying to do chest and i just felt all around weak. couldnt come close to my normal lifts. my arms and mostly shoulders were causing this. after reading a bit it seems those are signs of low e2 so that pretty much confirms i crashed it a bit. Today was pin day so im assuming my e2 should go up pretty quick. is that right?

[Frontpump]

Internet advice: I'm new but I have already read some amazingly dumb shit on steroid forums. Good advice? Sort of like a radio signal. There is some good music in there, but you can hardly hear it because of the static and noise.

I've also done dumb shit, to be fair. Recently even.

AI dosing? You can't say it's wise to keep it or wise to remove it as a rule of thumb. If you're prone to sides, then ****ing use it. If you're not, then don't use it. You'll want it on hand the first time, because you don't really know if you're prone to sides.

Case in point. I get gyno just from looking at porn. I see titties, and mine grow bigger. So one week of 400mg test cyp, and I'll be damned if my gyno didn't grow 20%. Unheard of? Then call me the statistical outlier.

Same case in point. Have several friends who front loaded 1g of test. That's 1000mg ghost rider. And no gyno whatsoever.

So just prepare for every possibility.

[jimmyinkedup]

Internet advice: I'm new but I have already read some amazingly dumb shit on steroid forums. Good advice? Sort of like a radio signal. There is some good music in there, but you can hardly hear it because of the static and noise.

I've also done dumb shit, to be fair. Recently even.

AI dosing? You can't say it's wise to keep it or wise to remove it as a rule of thumb. If you're prone to sides, then ****ing use it. If you're not, then don't use it. You'll want it on hand the first time, because you don't really know if you're prone to sides.

Case in point. I get gyno just from looking at porn. I see titties, and mine grow bigger. So one week of 400mg test cyp, and I'll be damned if my gyno didn't grow 20%. Unheard of? Then call me the statistical outlier.

Same case in point. Have several friends who front loaded 1g of test. That's 1000mg ghost rider. And no gyno whatsoever.

So just prepare for every possibility.

Or you can just be really intelligent about it, know that there are sides that are occurring you can neither see or feel that can be extremely harmful and manage your estrogen based off of blood work, not "sides".
Oh and if someone is injecting 5x the amount of test they would endogenously produce, I can comfortably tell them its wise to use an AI from the start.

[Frontpump]

Jimmyinkedup:

You're spot on in both cases.

[RA]

lol I knew I was going to call down the thunder. 500mgs of test you should certainly back down that dose and fiddle with it like I said. Your estrogen rises over time not over night. I'm good with my advice.

[Ryan624]

thanks i appreciate it. pinned this morning and already starting to feel better. atleast now i know for sure that it was low e2. That will make it much easier to get my dose right. not sure what i would do without this site.