low DHT lvls-going to doc tomorrow-HELP

[Quester]

These are natural-8 yrs since last cycle. All 8 yrs BW was good. DHT has never been tested untill now. I'm tired, irritable, low libido and generally-I'm unpleasant and feel unpleasant. For the last twenty-ish years.
Out of Range (8)
CHOLESTE...
249
125-200 mg/dL
TRIGLYCE...
192
<150 mg/dL
LDL-CHOL...
160
NON HDL ...
198
Target for non-HDL cholesterol is 30 mg/dL higher than
LDL cholesterol target.
GLUCOSE
64
65-99 g/dL
**************************T3 UPTAKE
37%
22-35 %
************************DIHYDROTESTOSTERONE, LC/MS/MS
10
16-79 g/dL
***********************DHT, FREE
0.77 pg/mL
Reference Range:
ADULTS: 1.00-6.20


In Range (45)
******************IGF 1, LC/MS
98
52-328 /mL
*********************Z SCORE ...
-0.8
-2.0 - +2.0 SD
This test was developed and its analytical performance
characteristics have been determined by Quest Diagnostics
Nichols Institute San Juan Capistrano. It has not been
cleared or approved by FDA. This assay has been validated
pursuant to the CLIA regulations and is used for clinical
purposes.

HDL CHOL...
51
> OR = 40 mg/dL
CHOL/HDL...
4.9
< OR = 5.0 (calc)
WHITE BL...
5.3
3.8-10.8 Thousand/uL
RED BLOO...
4.65
4.20-5.80 illion/uL
PROGESTERONE
<0.5
<1.4 ng/mL
PROLACTIN
12.8
2.0-18.0 ng/mL
ESTRADIOL
21
< OR = 39 pg/mL
CORTISOL...
20.2
4-22 mcg/dL
Reference Range
8 a.m. (7-9 a.m.) Specimen: 4.0-22.0
PSA, TOTAL
0.4
< OR = 4.0 ng/mL
This test was performed using the Siemens
chemiluminescent method. Values obtained from
different assay methods cannot be used
interchangeably. PSA levels, regardless of
value, should not be interpreted as absolute
evidence of the presence or absence of disease.
FREE T4 ...
2.4
1.4-3.8
T4 (THYR...
6.5
4.5-12.0 mcg/dL
TSH
1.91
0.40-4.50 mIU/L
FSH
5.2
1.6-8.0 mIU/mL
LH
3.7
1.5-9.3 mIU/mL
FREE TES...
103.4
35.0-155.0 pg/mL
Total TESTOSTE...
490
250-1100 dL
For more information on this test, go to
http://education.questdiagnostics.com/faq/
TotalTestosteroneLCMSMS
SEX HORM...
39
10-50 nmol/L
ESTRADIOL, ULTRASENSITIVE LC/MS/MS
13
< OR = 29 pg/mL

[kelkel]

Patience Quester. I responded to your other post about this.

[Quester]

Thanks for response, kelel.

I don't feel very good about this at all. However, this could be an answer to why I've been feeling so shitty. Tomorrow, I'll ask the doc to retest hormones and cholesterol and include DHEA and Androstenedione. I've been reading and the low DHT profile (the above plus slow hair growth, sweating and anxiety) fits me.

[hammerheart]

You might want to take a look at this:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8344190


Your IGF-1 is in the trash and might well account for both poor DHT levels and well-being.

[Quester]

Thanks bizz, good read.

I'm thinking about starting IGF-1 but I'd rather go with HGH, if I can find the real stuff and afford it.

My doc referred me to an endo, appt. Mar 13. Do endo's prescribe Igf-1...or HGH?

A TRT doc I saw in the summer prescribed HCG and Adex. I'm considering starting that very soon.

[kelkel]

Most doc's won't prescribe that for you at your level. Even if they did you'd play hell getting insurance to pay for it.
Your TRT doc only wrote you for HCG and Adex? Test too I hope?

[Quester]

No, just HCG, Adex and B-12. The office is kind of a shit-show. I have an appt with another trt doc next week and an endo in mid-mar.

I'm not going to take anything until I've seen the trt doc just in case more BW is requested.

(rehabbing) With BW and torn labrums info in hand, what can I reasonably expect?

(TRT) In the read about Deca, I was pointed in the direction of dht cream. This sounds like a solid option, concomitant with test.

[kelkel]

HCG Mono is a little used form of TRT. It would be my last choice over any other available protocol. Most guys report that the subjective benefits of it are just not there like they are with actual Testosterone. See your new doc and tell him what you want and how you expect to be treated, in a nice way of course. If you two aren't on the same wave length, find another.

I always suggest calling a doc's office first and speaking to one of the nurses to find out of the doc will treat with test, hcg and an AI if needed. They usually know the score or can ask for you. This way you avoid wasting your time with multiple, useless appts.