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Does any you guys know if it will be a good idea to stack clenbuterol with sust 250, I am gonna do 8 weeks of sust250 at 500mg a week, and I want to keep the fat levels down if possible I read that ephedra actually lowers test levels so I won't touch it, onthe other hand I read that clenbuterol has mild anabolic properties and is anticatabolic as well and BURNS FAT! Also thinking of adding arimidex .50mg a day to keep from bloatting and exccess water.
Any advice is apprecciated!
Thanks!!
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Well, that's different, and though it doesn't interest me, I do believe if done right you could gain a little lean mass.Originally Posted by carlo
You'll need more Sust (If that what you're set on running) and run it a minimum of ETD.
And don't fear the Ephdra, at least not for that reason, it's minimal, however Ephedra is Anti-catabolic.
If you kept your Protien up, and the rest of your diet Clean but Full, I think you'd be pleased with the results for how much you're doing.
Maybe:
Weeks 1-10 250mg ETD (or less)
Clen/ECA 2 on, 2 off.
PCT (And more Clen/ECA)
Last edited by TheSevnthWarrior; 12-13-2003 at 05:54 PM.
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1. ephedra is not catabolic
2. clen is not anti-catabolic at human doses
3. clen/ sus stack will not really keep fat off because after a while it desenitises ur beta-adrenergic receptors. if u are eating anough cals, u will add a bit of lard.
bro, please dont try to burn fat and gain muscle at the same time. just bulk then cut ! i have no clue why ppl are so obbessed with fat. when i bulk i am up to almost 20% bf. 8 weeks after i have recovered from bulking, i am down to 9% with minimal muscle loss!
4. read this article (the entire article please)
http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...=&threadid=878
it will show u how not to get too fat while bulking. but u need to read it all, i know it is very long, but its for newbies !
chill !
Last edited by gundam675; 12-13-2003 at 04:59 PM.
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I started to jump on ya gundam, til I saw my typo. I left out the "anti"....no, Epherdra is not catabolic, it's anti-catabolic.
However Clen is anti-catabolic to a certain extent. I was very impressed the first time I use it during PCT, I felt very hard.
And the point (and remember it wasn't my idea) I was commenting on was not that Sust/Clen would be some kind of Cutter, just that that combo, compared to a long ester only test, without the use of Clen, would keep you far more lean.
I think there's little question that Sust ran say, EOD, with a Clen/ECA 2 on, 2 off, would keep you realitively lean while putting on a few pounds.
I don't believe in "Burning Fat" while Bulking, but I do believe in keeping it down to a minimum. I can't stand "bulking" in every known understanding of the word, putting on 35 lbs, then cutting just to find out that 17 of it was Water and/or fat.
Also I believe Beta Down Reg. would take longer than he plans on running.
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Man gundam, I just tried my best to read that link....I could not...not due to length, but after I got to the part where he knocks out every old favorite, and states (and then defends) his thought that only Test, EQ, and Winny are good for a different number of reasons, I had to bail.
Maybe he goes on to (somehow) make this relevant in some way.....but when he took out Tren, Deca, Primo, and Var...I was pretty much done at that point.
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