injecting little bits of rubber into yourself

[clockworks]

my stuff is in those cheap vials with the crappy rubber stopper. after you push the needle thru it a couple of times, the rubber begins to fall apart and into the vial. very frequently, i draw up these little pieces of rubber into the syringe and inject them deep into my muscle.

anyone else ever do this?

-- clocky

[paulastone]

never happen to me. what size of needle you using?
you can always filter it

[clockworks]

18g to draw...thats whats ripping up the rubber. but it also happens with a 21g needle. they are small pieces, i figure its not hurting me...=)

-- clocky

[paulastone]

well i take my time and use a 25g for everything oilly

[Taejoon]

I've run into the same problem with my Shanghai EQ, I use a 22G to draw. I just assume that it's not hurting me, but I can't say that it doesn't bother me. If there was a way to get rid of those particles, I'd love to know about it.

Peace

-Taejoon

[clockworks]

paula, a 25g for drawing?? ****, i thought 23g was a pain in the ass...

taejoon, i guess one could filter it using a whatman into another, higher quality, vial...but i'm too lazy to do that...

-- clocky

[paulastone]

paula, a 25g for drawing?? ****, i thought 23g was a pain in the ass...

taejoon, i guess one could filter it using a whatman into another, higher quality, vial...but i'm too lazy to do that...

-- clocky

Yup 25g, it takes an extra 2 min but no crap in the bottom of the bottle and goes for a smooth injection. i will use a 23g once in a blue moon

[palme]

Injecting rubber into your muscles dosent sound smart. How is the body going to brakedown plastic?

[Whoisdaman]

Happens to me too, I just figure that I'm not dead yet so everything must be cool.

[cjp85]

Wouldnt scar tissue form around the rubber?

[paulastone]

Wouldnt scar tissue form around the rubber?

scar tissue around the rubber??? that dont make sense bro

[Taejoon]

Hmm... Well, maybe I should draw with a 25G instead....

[Red Ketchup]

I doubt VERY much that the little chunks of rubber that make it in an 18ga could possibly be pushed out in a 23 or 25ga... they prolly stay in the syringe or would clog the pin on it's way out.

Red

[cpt steele]

Rk is right its hard to put a spike where a finishnail has been

[paulastone]

Wouln't you be getting your vail to be unsteril if you have rubber in it?
like lets say you have a 50ml jug of qv enan. and you draw with 18g all the time. wouln't your vial become dirty??
Then become more prone to infections?

[clockworks]

Wouln't you be getting your vail to be unsteril if you have rubber in it?
like lets say you have a 50ml jug of qv enan. and you draw with 18g all the time. wouln't your vial become dirty??
Then become more prone to infections?

the rubber i see floating around in my syringe is very small, could easily fit thru a 23g needle. i think the BA in the gear will sterilize such a small piece of rubber...what do you guys think? and the hole in the rubber stopper isn't big enough to let things (like air) go thru...

red ketchup, the pieces of rubber are tiny. pushing the 18g needle thru just nicks off a tiny piece of rubber. they look like they could easily go thru a 23g needle.

Happens to me too, I just figure that I'm not dead yet so everything must be cool.

bahaha, that made me laugh. its such a bad way to go about saftey, but on the other hand...so many people go by it...

-- clocky

[dizzle]

You can stab your 18 gauge needle in there once, and then just draw out all your shots at once only switching the syringe. When I was shooting fina, I preloaded 2 weeks in advance so I didn't have to break the rubber a lot.

[legend]

i try to go into the same hole each time with the 18g drawing pin. is leave a big hole that is always visible. sterile empty vials are super cheap. i can not see how something like your health is not worth spending a few bucks on.

[big swoll]

you say that it does this too with a 21g needle....i always use a 20g to draw and i never have problems with this..however, when i used an 18 to draw it would take chunks of rubber out...i dont know what im really trying to say but i never have problems with 20g pins

[956Vette]

like big swoll said, draw with a 20

[Pheedno]

People, DO NOT inject rubber into your muscles. Just a little bit of common sense and cognitive reasoning tells you this should be frownd upon.

Clock, when I first saw this, I thought you were joking.

[clockworks]

Just a little bit of common sense and cognitive reasoning tells you this should be frownd upon.

i know, i know, but in practice its hard not to. i mean, if its the difference between having tiny specs of rubber in my muscle and missing a shot, unfortunately, i opted for the former...=/

definantly for my next cycle, i'm gunna get smaller drawing needles AND high quality presealed vials to transfer my juice into...ones where the rubber stopper doesn't get torn up so easily...

i feel stupid cuz its like one of those things where you always say one thing without question, but when it finally happens to you, you think differently...

-- clocky

[Lift Chief]

I've done it before- no problems.

Since then i've gone to smaller vials and pins so that it wouldn't tear the stopper up as much.

[TheSevnthWarrior]

You can stab your 18 gauge needle in there once, and then just draw out all your shots at once only switching the syringe. When I was shooting fina, I preloaded 2 weeks in advance so I didn't have to break the rubber a lot.

I was wondering if anybody was gonna say that...only I thought it would be the 1st or 2nd post..LOL

[TheSevnthWarrior]

Rubber is Highly Anabolic.
Fake Rubber is better than Synthoid.

[bermbuster67]

Get some filter needles to draw it up with. then switch pins to inject..

[BUYLONGTERM]

I don't have the patience to draw with a 25g needle!!! ****, a 23gauge I use takes forever. And I agree with Pheedno. I would be very careful. You might be OK now, but god knows what the future brings....

[Dude-Man]

I don't have the patience to draw with a 25g needle!!! ****, a 23gauge I use takes forever. And I agree with Pheedno. I would be very careful. You might be OK now, but god knows what the future brings....

just poke in different places in the rubber.. that will help.

[TheSevnthWarrior]

I don't have the patience to draw with a 25g needle!!! ****, a 23gauge I use takes forever. And I agree with Pheedno. I would be very careful. You might be OK now, but god knows what the future brings....

Future....?....Hmmm, that's interesting....I'll have to give that some thought, but not today.

[ddoublevision]

Injecting rubber into your muscles?? I would like to say that is the stupidest thing ever, but if I was int the same situation quite frankly I would probably do it too. Just think if you accidenly injected into a vein and had bits of rubber flowing throughout your body. I bet thats how strech armstrong got to be the way he is. I use the same 22 gauge to fill up and inject in, first I fill 2 cc of air into the syringe and push the air into the vile, then when I pull out the tren the added pressure make the extraction alot faster.

[Red Ketchup]

I personally like pre-loading a few weeks worth of syringes. Some folks here will even preload an entire cycle.

That means the needle only goes into the bottle once, no chunks of rubber, no problems.

Red

[clockworks]

I personally like pre-loading a few weeks worth of syringes. Some folks here will even preload an entire cycle.

That means the needle only goes into the bottle once, no chunks of rubber, no problems.

Red

rk, can you explain that? my syringes are only 3cc each and i gotta inject like 1-1.6cc ED.

thanks,
-- clocky

[Red Ketchup]

rk, can you explain that? my syringes are only 3cc each and i gotta inject like 1-1.6cc ED.

thanks,
-- clocky

On sunday afternoon I would get 7 to 14 syringes out

Slap an 18ga needle in the bottle of tren

Then carefully opened the first syringes sterile wrapping just a bit, pulled it out leaving the needle in the wrapping, connected it to the 18ga stuck in the bottle of tren, drew 1cc, removed syringe from 18ga pin leaving it in the bottle, re-attach the syringes original pin, slip back into sterile wrapping and then repeat the same thing with the 13 other other syringes


Pre-loading means putting a single dose in a bunch of syringes so they are ready to be used. It DOESN'T mean filling up a 3cc syringe and just pushing in 1cc every day... thats downright dangerous (infection and crap).

Hope this helps!

Red

[clockworks]

rk, oh duh...sometimes i'm kinda dense... thanks, that makes much sense...=)

-- clocky

[johnsomebody]

Well, here' s the solution, which was kindly shared with me by Ichabod:

Hold the needle almost horizontally, 18 gauge is what I always used, with the bevel (cut) side up and slide it about halfway or a bit more into the rubber. Then tip the syringe up vertically and push it in the rest of the way. This puts a slice into the rubber rather than cutting a plug, which is what happens when you insert it straight down, and shouldn't cause any pieces to fall in. Never did for me anyway, though you may be too far gone on the stopper you've got now.

Hope this helps.

[TheSevnthWarrior]

I take it nobody's buyin' my Anabolic Rubber story huh?

[partyboynyc]

i've been injecting rubber into chicks since i was 15.they are all safe and sound

[PurePower]

rubber into muscle = no good

[TheSevnthWarrior]

i've been injecting rubber into chicks since i was 15.they are all safe and sound

I decided to let somebody else be the one to say that.....My Wife has a habit of casually wondering in behind me and reading over my shoulder when I'm on here

[partyboynyc]

I decided to let somebody else be the one to say that.....My Wife has a habit of casually wondering in behind me and reading over my shoulder when I'm on here

always trying to help a brother out