Lion's IGF

**BigMike77** · 03-19-2006, 05:59 PM

Hello all. New to this board but not new to the game. Been around the game for about 5 years now. Looking at using Long R3 IGF-1 from lion but have a question. I see that it comes with 1mg IGF, 10ml of sodium chloride, and 10ml sealed sterile vial. What are the steps for mixing the IGF powder with the sodium chloride? I read many threads and searched for this question but have not found an answer. Your help is greatly appreciated.

**RUI-Products** · 03-19-2006, 06:12 PM

There are detailed instruction that come with the order.

**BigMike77** · 03-19-2006, 06:15 PM

Just would like to know before I order. That's just how I am. Is it too much to type out?

**RUI-Products** · 03-19-2006, 07:05 PM

Anyone can do it. It's just like Gh. I don't have them to type out for you.

But basicly you draw out 2 ml's of the solution and add to the vial of igf being careful to tilt the vial and add the solution to the glass no directly on the powder. Then shake. after the solution has mixed draw the 2 mls and deposit them in the 10 ml vial. Finaly add the remaning 8 ml of sodium chloride to the 10 ml vial. You will now have a solution of 100mcg / ml refrigerate. ( you must keep it refrigerated )

***JohnnyB*** · 03-19-2006, 07:35 PM

You can roll it between your hands too, that's the way I did my HGH.

JohnnyB

**IBdmfkr** · 03-19-2006, 07:44 PM

I would roll it as well, shaking could damage compound? HCG, GH and IGF I do the same.

**RUI-Products** · 03-19-2006, 08:46 PM

Do as they direct. THey have more experence with it then I do. The direction are very good. We are just reselling the product. We don't make it and I have used it only for a very short time and had to cut it short due to travel.

**sooners04** · 03-20-2006, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by Lion

Anyone can do it. It's just like Gh. I don't have them to type out for you.

But basicly you draw out 2 ml's of the solution and add to the vial of igf being careful to tilt the vial and add the solution to the glass no directly on the powder. Then shake. after the solution has mixed draw the 2 mls and deposit them in the 10 ml vial. Finaly add the remaning 8 ml of sodium chloride to the 10 ml vial. You will now have a solution of 100mcg / ml refrigerate. ( you must keep it refrigerated )

So let me get this right, out of 10ml of solution you can get 100mcg of product. So thats like 2 shots at 50mcg a shot for $175.00, is this correct or am I missing something? Did maybe you mean 1000mcg/ml?

**notanormalgent** · 03-20-2006, 04:13 AM

No...50mcgx20 shots=1mg

**sooners04** · 03-20-2006, 04:35 AM

I understand that but LION is saying that mixing the solutions as he stated makes 100mcg, I just thought that might be a typo and he meant 1000mcg which would be 20 shots at 50mcg. Two shots at 50mcg for $175.00 seemed unreasonable.

**NEW_IN_THE_GAME** · 03-20-2006, 04:55 AM

He said 100mcg/ml, and well since it is a 10ml vial. well put 2 and 2 together and you got the answer. He was pretty much saying 1,000mcg's. but merely stated it another way.

100mcg/ml x 10ml

**NEW_IN_THE_GAME** · 03-20-2006, 04:55 AM

what would htis stuff do for a 19-20 year old, any help?

**sooners04** · 03-20-2006, 04:59 AM

Okay gocha. I wouldn't mess with any of this stuff until 25 minimum.

**Big Bapper** · 03-20-2006, 05:08 AM

Do not inject water directly into powder, as above let it run down the glass. I roll it gentley on the table to reconestiute. I would leave the IGF untill you have maxed out your gains on AS. Then the IGF could take you to the next level.

**BigMike77** · 03-20-2006, 08:02 AM

Is it worth running it for only 20 days at 50mcg? Looks like I should have ordered 2 kits but it is expensive. Hoping that 1 kit will be enough to notice gains.

**IBdmfkr** · 03-20-2006, 12:29 PM

I've ran it at 80mcg/day with little results. Money is better spent elsewhere IMO. Food/Anabolics/GH etc..

**znak** · 03-20-2006, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

I've ran it at 80mcg/day with little results. Money is better spent elsewhere IMO. Food/Anabolics/GH etc..

How long did you run it for at 80 mcg/ed?

**IBdmfkr** · 03-20-2006, 03:07 PM

25 days. I'll stick with GH, same cost when you break it down. 80mcg's will roughly cost you 300$. That's about one kit of Growth.

***JohnnyB*** · 03-20-2006, 03:08 PM

LR3 can be a personal thing, what I mean is some repond very well other not so well. I happen to be one of the very well, but when using LR3 your protein intake is a very important part of the cycle.

JohnnyB

***JohnnyB*** · 03-20-2006, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

25 days. I'll stick with GH, same cost when you break it down. 80mcg's will roughly cost you 300$. That's about one kit of Growth.

You react well to HGH and I don't I was very disappointed with HGH, I am supposed to get a script, maybe some USa HGH will be differant, we'll see

JohnnyB

**IBdmfkr** · 03-20-2006, 03:13 PM

I agree Johnny.. after just one trial w/Omega's IGF I was not impressed but I agree it would be more beneficial to try different products to have a better understanding of how I respond to it. It's just hard to drop the $ when you have had poor results, considering nothing may change the second time around

***JohnnyB*** · 03-20-2006, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

I agree Johnny.. after just one trial w/Omega's IGF I was not impressed but I agree it would be more beneficial to try different products to have a better understanding of how I respond to it. It's just hard to drop the $ when you have had poor results, considering nothing may change the second time around

I hear ya, that's why I'm reluctant to drop more $ on HGH, I'm try some from a script, then if it works well, I'll see if I and get a few USA kits to bump up my dose

JohnnyB

**goose** · 03-20-2006, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

I agree Johnny.. after just one trial w/Omega's IGF I was not impressed but I agree it would be more beneficial to try different products to have a better understanding of how I respond to it. It's just hard to drop the $ when you have had poor results, considering nothing may change the second time around

Why didn`t you like omega? Did you have problems around injection site?

goose...

**IBdmfkr** · 03-20-2006, 10:12 PM

If I remember correctly it was suspended in AA which I thought was a "no-no". I had irritation around inject site probably for this reason, but overall wasn't impressed with the results (although I ran it with PCT, really just noticed more vascularity and leanness that could've easily been achieved with diet and OTC supps alone).

**goose** · 03-21-2006, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

If I remember correctly it was suspended in AA which I thought was a "no-no". I had irritation around inject site probably for this reason, but overall wasn't impressed with the results (although I ran it with PCT, really just noticed more vascularity and leanness that could've easily been achieved with diet and OTC supps alone).

Thanks for that...what dose and how long you ran it?

goose...

**IBdmfkr** · 03-21-2006, 08:39 AM

40mcg/day for the first 5days with no response, bumped it to 80mcg for the remaining 21-22 days if I remember correctly, I'd have to dig up my journal to be for sure.

**goose** · 03-21-2006, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

40mcg/day for the first 5days with no response, bumped it to 80mcg for the remaining 21-22 days if I remember correctly, I'd have to dig up my journal to be for sure.

No problem...I have heard a Dutch magazine will review all the IGF on the market with full results.

goose...

**IBdmfkr** · 03-21-2006, 08:51 AM

That'd be great, please post it up or a link when it happens. Speaking of dutch, it's a shame we lost Rodge (he was dutch if I remember correctly). He was a huge help in this particular area.

**fred9** · 03-21-2006, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

That'd be great, please post it up or a link when it happens. Speaking of dutch, it's a shame we lost Rodge (he was dutch if I remember correctly). He was a huge help in this particular area.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=230872

**goose** · 03-21-2006, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

That'd be great, please post it up or a link when it happens. Speaking of dutch, it's a shame we lost Rodge (he was dutch if I remember correctly). He was a huge help in this particular area.

I got this information from BIG PINN about the Dutch magazine,I hope Rodge will help us here.

goose....

**IBdmfkr** · 03-21-2006, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by fred9

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=230872

Thx for the link Fred. Great to have him back.

**rodge** · 03-21-2006, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

No problem...I have heard a Dutch magazine will review all the IGF on the market with full results.

goose...

have'nt heard this before but i will ask at some dutch boards i hang out now and then.

-rodge

**rodge** · 03-21-2006, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

That'd be great, please post it up or a link when it happens. Speaking of dutch, it's a shame we lost Rodge (he was dutch if I remember correctly). He was a huge help in this particular area.

how come you did'nt notice i was back damn it.

-rodge

**IBdmfkr** · 03-21-2006, 01:07 PM

lol, just found out TODAY. Haven't been in the IGF forum much lately after you left. Just not the same! Glad to have you back bro, got a few ques for you coming up pertaining to running GH/IGF together

**RUI-Products** · 03-21-2006, 02:31 PM

Why did you leave Rodge....I hope it wasn't over a lie...?

**BigMike77** · 03-21-2006, 02:48 PM

So is it worth running it for only 20 days at 50mcg????

**fred9** · 03-21-2006, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by BigMike77

So is it worth running it for only 20 days at 50mcg????

you can extend it to 28 days 5on 2off @50mcg...but ive seen the best results with 80mcg+...

**pattymac931** · 03-30-2006, 04:09 AM

what would a better length to run ?

**Maldorf** · 03-30-2006, 10:28 AM

Doesnt it ruin the IGF if its mixed with water? I thought that it would be ruined if it sat too long in water, and NaCl solution is nothing but salt water. Most I see use acetic acid or BA.

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