Sup bros.. Quick question.. I never really went on any type of creatine (except for when i first started training- took some creatine mono. 4 about 2 weeks) Well I ordered an ECY combo and Cre-Ethyl THUNDER. Firstly has anybody heard of Cre-Ethyl THUNDER? positive, negative? Also would it be GOOD or OK to take the creatine and ecy together or is it pointless. I read that creatine ethyl ester can provide good lean gains (obvioulsy with diet) Anybody know the deal? Thanks bros..