More power for my camaro!

[1buffsob]

Looking for more power out of my Camaro this summer. Put in a 383ci stroker last year, but could use a little more.

I'm playing around with some ideas:

The engine is set up for nitrous, and I've run a 125hp shot about 5 times. I'm thinking of adding on a 250hp Cheater system.

Supercharge it and put on a 671 Weiand Blower. This would require only minor changes. Swap out the pistons to achieve a lighter compression, different carb, higher duration dual pattern cam, etc.

Scrap the entire engine and build up the 502ci I have sitting in the garage. This would be the more expensive route for sure, but it's hard to beat the power of a big block.

Then again, I could just leave it alone, but I have trouble leaving well enough alone. Let me know what you guys think, or maybe there's another option I haven't thought of.

1buffsob

Here's a pic of engine going in last summer.

1978 Camaro, 383ci stroker (dyno'd at 486hp/512ftlbs to the rear wheels-with 125hp shot.), th350 with 3200RPM converter, 3.73 eaton posi rear.

[peump]

Supercharge it and put on a 671 Weiand Blower. This would require only minor changes. Swap out the pistons to achieve a lighter compression, different carb, higher duration dual pattern cam, etc.

[1buffsob]

I'm leaning that way, but still can't make up my mind.

1buffsob

[TesticularFortitude]

You wont be able to appreciate the Nos the same way u will a nice supercharger
TF

[G-1000]

Buy a Bike.

or 502 with supercharger and nitrous used as an intercooler. Also get a Motech

[1buffsob]

Buy a Bike.

or 502 with supercharger and nitrous used as an intercooler. Also get a Motech

I like the way you think gsxxr Maybe after college.

1buffsob

[G-1000]

I ran a supercharging company for 9 years.

[Myka]

where is the custom turbo fabrication option? T72 with a 3 core intercooler dual 3in open exhaust

[RuhlFreak55]

supercharge.........especially if you're already puttin out over 400 horses......that's what i'm gonna do to the bronco

[G-1000]

where is the custom turbo fabrication option? T72 with a 3 core intercooler dual 3in open exhaust

supercharger is better for the street. Less heat you have to deal with.

[G-1000]

turbos are better for small displacement engines.

[cfiler]

Supercharge it. You can always add nitrous later.

[1buffsob]

Looks unanimous. Maybe I should sell the 502 and use the money to help pay for the new supercharger.

1buffsob

[BeerBaron]

Now bear in mind I'm an import guy who loves his 4cyl turbos.... But I say blower all the way... once you boost you dont go back.

[novicenovicen]

bigger engine! Then you can add a blower to that!

[lucabratzi]

bigger engine! Then you can add a blower to that!

thats what i was goin to say...

[1buffsob]

It'd be a while before I could supercharge the 502, but yeah, that would be cool. How about supercharge the 383 for now, and pic up a bigger small block later?

1buffsob

[cfiler]

It'd be a while before I could supercharge the 502, but yeah, that would be cool. How about supercharge the 383 for now, and pic up a bigger small block later?

1buffsob

When do you think you would want to swap the motor? If it's any time soon, then go with the nitrous, because the nitrous kit you could transfer over to what ever motor you use later.

[SVTMuscle*]

pssssssssst your camaro can bring it on to my KB'd Cobra! yeah i dont own one yet haha but i will. im still stuck on a GT bah.

[RuhlFreak55]

It'd be a while before I could supercharge the 502, but yeah, that would be cool. How about supercharge the 383 for now, and pic up a bigger small block later?

1buffsob

small blocks don't get much bigger than 383.......

[1buffsob]

small blocks don't get much bigger than 383.......

They do if you go with custom strokes and bores. My uncle down south runs a machine shop, so that wouldn't be a problem.

Have you seen the new 454ci SMALL BLOCKS??? That shit is nuts, but I don't think many sbc parts will transfer over to this small block. Still fairly new. Car Craft tested one on a dyno last year and it made over 1.4 hp naturally aspirated. I still have trouble picturing that many cubes in a small block.

1buffsob

[1buffsob]

When do you think you would want to swap the motor? If it's any time soon, then go with the nitrous, because the nitrous kit you could transfer over to what ever motor you use later.

I have the simple Power Shot from NOS, but it's just not enough. If I go with the cheater system (250), I could save on a new bottle and just replace the solenoids and such. The MSD box and Flamethrower HEI should run flawless to 7,000RPM+, so a misfire isn't a concern. Internals are all forged, but the 10:1 compression slugs would have to go in place of something milder, 8.5:1 probably. I'd also have to do some major work on the tranny so it could handle the rapid dose of HP. And need to replace the converter with an anti-ballooning one designed for nitrous use. Those suckers are a pretty penny.

I might sell the Power Shot system to fund the blower. I'm worried, if I have it around after the blower goes on, I'll be too tempted to use it. I've already grenaded 2 trannys in the last 10 months.

1buffsob

[1buffsob]

pssssssssst your camaro can bring it on to my KB'd Cobra! yeah i dont own one yet haha but i will. im still stuck on a GT bah.

Bring it on. You won't have a chance once the blower goes on.

1buffsob

[king diamond]

Looking for more power out of my Camaro this summer. Put in a 383ci stroker last year, but could use a little more.

I'm playing around with some ideas:

The engine is set up for nitrous, and I've run a 125hp shot about 5 times. I'm thinking of adding on a 250hp Cheater system.

Supercharge it and put on a 671 Weiand Blower. This would require only minor changes. Swap out the pistons to achieve a lighter compression, different carb, higher duration dual pattern cam, etc.

Scrap the entire engine and build up the 502ci I have sitting in the garage. This would be the more expensive route for sure, but it's hard to beat the power of a big block.

Then again, I could just leave it alone, but I have trouble leaving well enough alone. Let me know what you guys think, or maybe there's another option I haven't thought of.

1buffsob

Here's a pic of engine going in last summer.

1978 Camaro, 383ci stroker (dyno'd at 486hp/512ftlbs to the rear wheels-with 125hp shot.), th350 with 3200RPM converter, 3.73 eaton posi rear.

boat anchor!

[sooners04]

Blow it!!

[Rocket]

I have an NOS system on one of my cars and a Blower on the other. They are both FUN!!

[G-1000]

small blocks don't get much bigger than 383.......

you can make a 427 small block.

[biglouie250]

supercharge it...... im a fan of turbos because they arent belt driven and the law of dimishing returns doesnt apply. however i think that a supercharger setup would be more readily available with your current setup w/o much fabrication.

[G-1000]

You need to decide what way you would like to go.

If you build a 502 you will need to have low compression. So you can add the blower on later. The most I would go would be 9:1 so you can add 10 to 15psi later.

If you do the blower first and then won’t to do the motor later. You will have to replace the supercharger. The blower for a small block will not be able to feed the volume of the big block later on.

Nitrous would best as a inter cooler. I don’t like it for any thing more then that. I can’t stand having to refill the dam thing ever other day. If you use it with the blower as an intercooler you will have to refill like once a month. You c

[G-1000]

supercharge it...... im a fan of turbos because they arent belt driven and the law of dimishing returns doesnt apply. however i think that a supercharger setup would be more readily available with your current setup w/o much fabrication.

Yes and no. On a larger displacement motor the turbo can be restrictive on the exhaust side. Also you do not turn the same RPM to it’s much harder to spool a turbo up.

[G-1000]

They do if you go with custom strokes and bores. My uncle down south runs a machine shop, so that wouldn't be a problem.

Have you seen the new 454ci SMALL BLOCKS??? That shit is nuts, but I don't think many sbc parts will transfer over to this small block. Still fairly new. Car Craft tested one on a dyno last year and it made over 1.4 hp naturally aspirated. I still have trouble picturing that many cubes in a small block.

1buffsob

454 small block BOOM they blow up all the dam time. you can do a 427 safely

[G-1000]

Keep in mine you will need a fule system that can feed the beast. With out fuel you will not go any fater.

Just like taking juice and not eating you will not grow.

[biglouie250]

Yes and no. On a larger displacement motor the turbo can be restrictive on the exhaust side. Also you do not turn the same RPM to it’s much harder to spool a turbo up.

thats why i said with his setup a supercharger would be better lol!

[biglouie250]

you could reduce the restriction on the exhaust side by getting an exhaust cut out or just rip the exhaust off at the downpipe. then you have one loud, fast, illegal as hell bad mofo camaro!!!

[G-1000]

thats why i said with his setup a supercharger would be better lol!

Ya it will be. he will only need to deal with a blow off. A wast gate can be a real pain in the ass to set up.

[needmorestrength]

Is it possible to get a supercharger thats interchangeable between the 383 and 502? I have a custom built 383 on mine.. .I have recently found a site that has a 502, putting out about 600hp and its 6000canadian to my door with a big ass warrenty!!! Imo... put the money in to the 502... that way when you add a supercharger and nos to that, your up about 200 hp as opposed to adding those items to the 383.. By the way what year is the camaro?

[~fuelforfire~]

quit showing off, i no longer have my camaro

[1buffsob]

Is it possible to get a supercharger thats interchangeable between the 383 and 502? I have a custom built 383 on mine.. .I have recently found a site that has a 502, putting out about 600hp and its 6000canadian to my door with a big ass warrenty!!! Imo... put the money in to the 502... that way when you add a supercharger and nos to that, your up about 200 hp as opposed to adding those items to the 383.. By the way what year is the camaro?

1978 camaro. And no, the big block blowers and small block blowers are not interchangeble. Different manifolds all together.

With the 250 shot nitrous or the supercharger, it will lay down over 600hp to the rear wheels. That's about 750hp at the flywheel. The 502ci would give me a lot more potential to modify with superchargers and/or nitrous, but it is the longer more expensive route.

1buffsob

[1buffsob]

Ya it will be. he will only need to deal with a blow off. A wast gate can be a real pain in the ass to set up.

One of the many reasons I decided this car would never be turbo'd. The custom fabrication alone is, and this is hard for me to admit, beyond my skillity. I'm not much of a fabricater and have limited welding ability (As I found out when replacing my rear quarter panels. )

The internals of my stroker are not made to turn such high RPM as I would want it to if it were turbo'd. All heavy forged internals from Scat. I've taken her above 6500RPM on a few occasions, but don't feel comfortable running that high. One of the reasons I went for the stroker, cause I like my powerband to be only a couple thousand RPM's away.

1buffsob

[G-1000]

Its more of the stroke that makes the them blow up. Its to long for the size of the rod vis RPM. But if you did a 383 you can build it to turn 7500rpm.