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    2nd Cycle Opinions

    STATS:
    29, 181 lbs, 5’-10”,12-13% b.f., on lean bulk diet now (3200 kcal/ed), workout EOD.
    1st cycle was a six-week Tbol only at 60 mg/ed.
    I am going to begin my second cycle in Mid-October.

    GOALS:

    Drop bf % down to 9-10% before cycle, gain 10-13 lbs LBM during cycle.

    CYCLE:
    Week 1-12: Test Enan @ 500 mg/ew (250 mg every 3.5 days)
    Week 1-8: Tbol @ 60 mg/ed
    Week 1-12: Letro @ .25 mg/ed (?)
    Week 13-14: Nolva @ 10 mg/ed

    PCT (2 weeks after last Test E shot):
    Week 1: Nolva @ 40 mg/ed, Proviron @ 50 mg/ed
    Week 2: Nolva @ 30 mg/ed, Proviron @ 50 mg/ed
    Week 3: Nolva @ 20 mg/ed, Proviron @ 50 mg/ed
    Week 4: Nolva @ 10 mg/ed, Proviron @ 50 mg/ed
    Week 5: Nolva @ 10 mg/ed, Proviron @ 25 mg/ed
    Clenbuterol throughout.

    QUESTIONS:
    I have Clomid on hand but am fearful of the sides that others have posted. Should I include it? In addition, is the Letro mandatory throughout the cycle or should I keep it on hand as well? If I use Letro throughout, should it also be included in pct?

    NOTES:
    I don’t have enough Proviron to run throughout entire cycle, just pct. I also would like to keep the bloat to a min.

    Thanks for your thoughts and opinions.

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    I don't think there is any need to include letro in your cycle if you are using nolva. I use nolva during cycle as it is better for lipids than letro/arimi. I would save letro for pct and run it with the nolva. Wouldn't bother with the clomid, not due to sides but just because there are better compounds available to you.

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    Your outline is a model for ALL users. I applaud you for that!


    I disagree with the last poster...Your plan of .25mg/ED of letro is a good dosage for the amount of gear you are running, and it will increase your IGF levels during cycle and possibly create some synergy.

    You should drop the letro a week before your cycle ends and then transition to the Nolva.

    Clomid and nolva together are good in PCT, but I am a fan of running more nolva since my emotions tend to get carried away on Clomid.

    The proviron in PCT is also a good idea.

    You are going to be happy with this cycle, and it is very well planned!

    My hat is tipped in your direction.

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    Thanks.
    I edited this because you beat me to the punch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daem
    Your outline is a model for ALL users. I applaud you for that!

    I read your post about this... I was very careful!

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    brilliant!

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    I cant F%&king wait.

    Got all the gear three weeks ago, I am like a kid in a candy store.

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