Oral Tbol, alternative

[New2Anabolic]

Oral Turinabol: "...this stuff is a potent lean tissue builder, and good for cutting. But that´s mostly of interest for bodybuilders.."

What other orals have the same (if not better; ie. fat loss and cutting muscle) effect as tbol?

I've been researching and I'm wondering what everyone's opinion is. It would speed up decision making/research.

[soccer#3]

people like to compare tbol and var so i'd say var

[New2Anabolic]

So would taking oral-var (solo, not stacked - im cheap right now) give me some minor results to work with?
Results I'm interested in: Strength, Cutting*, Fat Loss*

[BajanBastard]

So would taking oral-var (solo, not stacked - im cheap right now) give me some minor results to work with?
Results I'm interested in: Strength, Cutting*, Fat Loss*

So you're looking to save money and planning to use var?

[plzr8]

So you're looking to save money and planning to use var?

i smell an oral-only cycle and scared to inject


test is much cheaper than var!

[AleX-69]

Other orals which work even better than t-bol are

var at 80mg /ED
Winny at 50mg /ED

ALWAYS combined with test of course.

[New2Anabolic]

I don't inject because I had a bad experience and I Was caught by my parents. I had said this before in another post.
They said that if they catch me doign it again, I'm kicked out. (I'm 21)

I will be moving out in 2 years, so injections can wait until then, so until that point, I'm content with using orals.
Without injecting.

Gains can still be made, I'm no body builder, so I'm just lookin for some help.

Fin was so great... but now I'm forced to do some orals (more discreet/easy to hide)
I will forever miss fin, the gains (well.. fat % loss, and muscle gain were beautiful)

So anavar and winny?
Sounds pricey..
(especially before christmas)

that the only alternative?

[Natty99]

Tbol is some pretty good stuff. You'll likely see a huge boost in strength, and increased vascularity. No major sides or neg. effect on libido.
plus is cheap compaired to var

[lightwaytbaby]

if your worried about cost, use d-bol, but i would prefer t-bol over winny/var for strength and size...

[Tommy Boy]

Tbol is nothing like Anavar?!?!? Tbol is like Dbol without the bloat, used for bulking, with little or no sides. Var is more like winny, used for cutting, without as much toxicity. Do a ****ing steroid profile search.

[mousetraps]

tbol is different than just dbol minus the bloat for me.

[Hard Head]

Ain't no cutting on Tbol. It makes you crazy hungry.

[mousetraps]

yeh tbol does drive my appetite

[New2Anabolic]

It's just that I was offered 5mg pills, so that means I would need to take 10 a day, and I'm not sure how I would space them apart!
Also, the whole point behind oral, is to hide the fact that I am using them - (ie. needles, injection privacy, storage, etc.) and now lugging around 10 pills a day is kind of obvious.
But it sounds like this is the best option for me. (this = tbol)

And I did do a profile check before starting here, google works wonders!
I always learn more from you guys preeching though.

(please continue!)

[Hunter]

I just checked your public profile with a 17% body fat you should deffiantly bring that down before starting a cycle.

[New2Anabolic]

Wouldn't the cycle help me? And yeah I am in the process of lowering it.

I had about 15-16% when I started fin, and I dropped about 3-4% on that cycle. FAST!

to bad injections are in the past. (for now..)

[Hunter]

Wouldn't the cycle help me? And yeah I am in the process of lowering it.

I had about 15-16% when I started fin, and I dropped about 3-4% on that cycle. FAST!

to bad injections are in the past. (for now..)

Most will say your fat should be 12 or under some even in the single digits. the higher your bf the faster and more severe estrogenic sides will appear and a higher probability of them happening.

[james21]

haha yeah there is no cutting on Tbol ..... drives my appetite up wayy too much.. Then on the otherhand winnny will actually make me nautious to eat...

[New2Anabolic]

Okay, well the profile says different.

It says that it is the opposite of dbol in regards to the "puffy gains" vs. "lean muscle/cut muscle"

(dont mean to argue or anything, im just reiterating what I've read online through a couple profiles on turinabol)

[AleX-69]

haha yeah there is no cutting on Tbol ..... drives my appetite up wayy too much.. Then on the otherhand winnny will actually make me nautious to eat...

i have done cutting on tbol alongside of test... You need a bit more self discpline but thats it. If you can't do that, well.-...

As you are high in BF - as u have already stated - i would tend to orals which might aid you in loosing BF. That is why i recommended Var and Winny. Both great orals if used right!

[New2Anabolic]

I'm thinking winny and dbol.

Dbol^ weeks 1-4 30mgs/day
Win^ weeks 5-9 50mgs/day

cheaper, and effective (as far as orals go) in aiding in bf loss and strength gains to help the overal muscle development.

(PCT after winny ends)

[Tommy Boy]

Better get a Kevlar vest for your liver. And a prescription for Lipitor. Vytorin would be better. Point being, your liver values and lipid panels are going to
get all jacked up.
It's a free country... but why would all these guys lie to you about the very real dangers of orals only cycle? Have you looked into Andriol. It's Oral Test. Not very effective, and expensive, but test.
Really tho, reconsider injectables. MUCH better for your body, and MUCH more effective. Good luck.

[New2Anabolic]

I doubt one cycle would fk me up that bad. Especially if I'm taking milk thistle


(am i wrong in assuming this?)

[cromwell1234]

VAR 40mg daily 6 weeks--GOOD to go--huge strenth increase+harding

[New2Anabolic]

my main focus is cutting losing bf.

im pretty puffy right now. (the 16-17%bf kinda aids in that fact]
will var help with that? or just strength.

[Hunter]

Var is primarly used as a cutter but diet determines whether it is a cutter or a bulker aas just aids in either one. I would run one oral, Captain dominate had a incredible var only cycle but that seems more of an exception then anything. I would either run var for like 6-7 weeks or t-bol for the same time but I would wait drop your bodyfat and stay natty untill you can do injections you only get one liver. Lots of people say liver toxicity is a myth but I prefere to stay safe. If your content on running a oral only cycle stick to 7-8 weeks.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Better get a Kevlar vest for your liver. And a prescription for Lipitor. Vytorin would be better. Point being, your liver values and lipid panels are going to
get all jacked up.
It's a free country... but why would all these guys lie to you about the very real dangers of orals only cycle? Have you looked into Andriol. It's Oral Test. Not very effective, and expensive, but test.
Really tho, reconsider injectables. MUCH better for your body, and MUCH more effective. Good luck.

I hope your kidding. Whats the difference in jumpstarting with Dbol 4 weeks and ending with Winstrol for 5 weeks with test? .................
His liver will be fine.


Also, Dbol/Winstrol will piss on Var only, or Tbol only , or Tbol/Var in terms of gains.

If your goal is to cut , it's all diet and cardio. They won't cut BF for you.

[Logan13]

Oral Turinabol: "...this stuff is a potent lean tissue builder, and good for cutting. But that´s mostly of interest for bodybuilders.."

What other orals have the same (if not better; ie. fat loss and cutting muscle) effect as tbol?

I've been researching and I'm wondering what everyone's opinion is. It would speed up decision making/research.

I've done 3 cycles that included tbol. It works well, but I had to quit using because of SEVERE stomach pains. I was going to the bathroom 4-7 times per day.

[New2Anabolic]

So far I'm looking to try out dbol and winny.

Mask gives me faith. haha. (And I know that dbol works on its own, as does winny, because i know a couple people who use the them)

gains arent huge, but they are worth the $ amount.

Edit: I'm super appreciative of everyones input and I look forward to reading more tomorrow morning, please continue!!

[Hellmaskbanned]

I'm thinking winny and dbol.

Dbol^ weeks 1-4 30mgs/day
Win^ weeks 5-9 50mgs/day

cheaper, and effective (as far as orals go) in aiding in bf loss and strength gains to help the overal muscle development.

(PCT after winny ends)

I thought about it more and like this,

Dbol 1-4 30mgs
Winstrol 5-10 60mgs

[Tommy Boy]

I thought about it more and like this,

Dbol 1-4 30mgs
Winstrol 5-10 60mgs

No I'm not kidding. Are YOU kidding?

You're advocating an oral only cycle for this kid?

10 weeks of ANY 17aa oral aas is a bad idea. Especially 6 weeks of winny.

[Hellmaskbanned]

No I'm not kidding. Are YOU kidding?

You're advocating an oral only cycle for this kid?

10 weeks of ANY 17aa oral aas is a bad idea. Especially 6 weeks of winny.

6 weeks of winny? Oh NO! You'll shoot your eye out kid.......

He doesn't want to inject, because of personal reasons, so I'm telling him a oral cycle that will do some good.

Many run Dbol, Winstrol, Anadrol, at much higher dosages for that length. That cycle will produce good gains, if he knows anything about how to train at all.

With those doses, 10 weeks is a walk in the park.

[AleX-69]

Well doing an oral only cycle is not that bad as many think...

Just think a seccond about out it.

Either you run 50mg Winny ED with 500mg Test/W OR
you run 50mg Winny ED.

Which of those two options will probably have fewer side effects? Sure the gains from Winny / DbOl / Tbol / Var Only will also be not as pronounced but oral only cycles can be done.

My best buddy done Oral only (winny / Dbol) for approx 7 years before he switched to injections. and he is the biggest one in our gym weighing 240lbs at 5'7. His liver and all inner organs are perfectly fine. So IF someone wants to run an oral only cycle its all good with me.
Even though personally stacking at least injectable test will give you far superior results.

I his case i would step away from D-Bol.. He will be looking like a sponge within the first 4 weeks. Moreover The higher the BF the more of a certain steroid will convert to estrogen. So i would opt for purley non aromatizable ones.
Winny is a very good choice here and T-Bol would be another one. Var would also be perfect but is quite expensive if you don't homebrew..

[New2Anabolic]

Okay, now I'm thrown to the idea of Winny & Tbol.
(I love tbols profile)

I'll have to check with my supplier now!

[Tommy Boy]

To each his own, Gentlemen.

Happy Thanksgiving.

[mousetraps]

8 weeks of tbol at 60mg was the best oral only cycle i could imagine... dropped fat and hardened up....

if you want picture proof, look for the old thread i started called 'tbol back progress' and look at the difference between picture 2 and 3... that was with no diet change.

[justins920]

Sex: Male
Age: 23
Height: 6'-0"
Weight: 165lbs
Body Fat%: 9%

I have lifted weights since I was about 15. I have a smaller frame and a high metabolism. I eat a lot of protein and calories every day (like in the 4000-5000 range), but I can't see to gain anymore. I would like to start my first cycle using orals only. I'm not sure if I'm ready to stick myself yet. Maybe my next cycle. I heard turinabol is a good oral and helps drive the appetite to make me eat more yet. Any cycle suggestions would great. Thanks in advance for the help.

[mousetraps]

maybe a new thread would be better for that