Matrix Trilogy

[magic32]

Quote your favorite lines from the Matrix Trilogy. And if it’s not too much trouble cite why.

View the scripts to aid your memory and prevent gross perversions of dialogue:

http://www.movie-page.com/movie_scripts.htm

Then click on “Read the Script! - PDF Format”

Lastly, while you revisit ‘The Matrix’ what Biblical parallels do you see? Other than the very obvious.


MINE:
You have many questions, and though the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human, ergo, some of my answers you will understand and some you will not. Concordantly, while your first question is the most pertinent, you may or my not realize, it is also the most irrelevant.
- The Architect

WHY: Because it's something I want to say to every underage, underweight, overweight, quick-fix, do-I-really-need-to-lift-on-roids, if-I-take-Winny-can-I-eat-whatever-I-want visitor to this website.

[biglouie250]

they should have stopped at one because 2 and 3 are brutal.

[magic32]

I beg to differ.
One was great, two engaging, and three conclusive.
Each sequentially performed their given roles admirably.

In the words of the Oracle:
"We are all here to do, what we are here to do."

M.

[biglouie250]

i think that the rambo trilogy was better

[l2elapse]

i agree, should have stopped after 1

[beuleux]

Mine: There is no spoon

Why: There is no spoon

[Flagg]

The entire trilogy was superb but I think my favourite monologue is Agent Smith telling Morpheus in Part 1 how much like a virus the human race is and how he needs out of the Matrix.

Agent Smith: "I'd like to share a revelation that I’ve had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species, and I realised that humans are not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment; but you humans do not. Instead you multiply, and multiply, until every resource is consumed. The only way for you to survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern... a virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer on this planet, you are a plague, and we... are the cure."

Agent Smith: "I hate this place. This zoo. This prison. This reality, whatever you want to call it, I can't stand it any longer..it's the SMELL"

[Snrf]

That architect and his flowery over-wordy bullshit speeches just pissed me off.

Reminds me of some dumb-fvcks I know who like to pretend they're smarter than they are by reading the thesaurus every morning and using the words they just learned. Like that little speech you quoted. we could say the same thing w/o looking like a pompous ass like so:

"You have many questions, and though the process has altered your consciousness, you remain human, so some of my answers you will understand and some you wont"

I've left out the last bit of the speech and will talk about that below...


"concordantly while your first question is the most pertinent it is also irrelevant."

99% of people would say accordingly rather than "concordantly", and leaving pertinent and irrelevant in there kind of annoys me, since they're antonyms, meaning the architect is a dick and can't form a sentence w/o contradicting himself. It is impossible to be both pertinent and irrelevant

pertinent meaning having precise or logical relevance to the matter at hand
(definition available at http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pertinent)

Irrelevant meaning not relevant or not pertinent to the matter at hand
(definition available at nhttp://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irrelevant)

So the gist of my post? The architect is a knob!

[magic32]

That architect and his flowery over-wordy bullshit speeches just pissed me off.

Reminds me of some dumb-fvcks I know who like to pretend they're smarter than they are by reading the thesaurus every morning and using the words they just learned. Like that little speech you quoted. we could say the same thing w/o looking like a pompous ass like so:
ONE SHOULD ONLY SUPPRESS HIS VOCABULARY WHEN NECESSARY TO COMMUNICATE TO A GIVEN AUDIENCE.

"You have many questions, and though the process has altered your consciousness, you remain human, so some of my answers you will understand and some you wont"

I've left out the last bit of the speech and will talk about that below...


"concordantly while your first question is the most pertinent it is also irrelevant."

99% of people would say accordingly rather than "concordantly",
BY THE WAY "ACCORDINGLY" AND "CONCORDANTLY" ARE NOT SYNONYMS NOR WOULD ANYONE USE THEM INTERCHANGEABLY.

and leaving pertinent and irrelevant in there kind of annoys me, since they're antonyms,
NOT TRUE, SENTENCES OFTEN HAVE CONFLICTING PHRASES, FOR EXAMPLE:
"I'M STARVING, BUT I'M GOING TO EAT FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF HOURS."

LIFE IS FILLED WITH PARADOXES, JUST AS THE GIRL/GUY YOU MOST DESIRE CAN BE THE WORST FOR YOU.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE ARCHITECT MISTAKENLY ASSUMED THIS NEO WOULD FOLLOW IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF HIS PREDECESSORS AND COMPLY BY RETURNING THE SOURCE. SINCE HE DIDN'T (DO TO HIS LOVE FOR TRIN) HIS FIRST QUESTION NAMELY, "WHY AM I HERE", PROVED TO BE QUITE RELEVANT.

HOWEVER, THE ARCHITECTS ASSUMPTION THOUGH WRONG WAS STILL WELL
FOUNDED. meaning the architect is a dick and can't form a sentence w/o contradicting himself. It is impossible to be both pertinent and irrelevant
NOT TRUE, MUCH LIKE THE EXAMPLE I GAVE FOR AN UNDERAGE PERSON ASKING ABOUT STEROIDS. IF THE FIRST WAS, "WHAT SHOULD I START TAKING TO GET BIGGER AND STRONGER". SUCH A QUESTION WOULD ALSO BE THE MOST IRRELVANT, BECAUSE HE SHOULDN'T BE TAKING ANYTHING.

pertinent meaning having precise or logical relevance to the matter at hand
(definition available at http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pertinent)

Irrelevant meaning not relevant or not pertinent to the matter at hand
(definition available at nhttp://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irrelevant)

So the gist of my post? The architect is a knob!

AND YOU'RE ENTITLED TO THAT.
BUT AS ILLUSTRATED ABOVE, EVERYTHING HE SAID IS VALID.

M.

[magic32]

The entire trilogy was superb but I think my favourite monologue is Agent Smith telling Morpheus in Part 1 how much like a virus the human race is and how he needs out of the Matrix.

Agent Smith: "I'd like to share a revelation that I’ve had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species, and I realised that humans are not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment; but you humans do not. Instead you multiply, and multiply, until every resource is consumed. The only way for you to survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern... a virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer on this planet, you are a plague, and we... are the cure."

Agent Smith: "I hate this place. This zoo. This prison. This reality, whatever you want to call it, I can't stand it any longer..it's the SMELL"

I agree!
And agent Smith could not have been better cast, his cold machine-like demeanor made the trilogy.

The same actor played the elf king in LTR.

M.

[Snrf]

definition of concordant

"accordant: in keeping; "salaries agreeable with current trends"; "plans conformable with your wishes"; "expressed views concordant with his background""

"I'M STARVING, BUT I'M GOING TO EAT FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF HOURS."
What? I assume you meant not going to eat....And even if you did that still doesn't apply to this situation, you're talking about a current condition (ie that of being starving) and a later resultant action. Whereas he is describing something with two words with opposite meanings. It is nothing like the example you gave. A better example which follows the same pattern as he used would be to describe something with two opposite words ie "oil is liquid and solid" this is obviously not possible.

And as for life being full of paradoxes that is completely beside the point, I wasn't discussing what life is, I was pointing out the architects lines were written by some flowery dickhead with a thesaurus and too much time on his hands.

And as for that example for a novice asking about what to take that question is very relevant and they should be advised not to take anything. That doesn't apply here at all, just like in the religion thread before you're using convoluted logic that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.

[magic32]

Thanks.

[beuleux]

Forget it man... Americans and Brits are divided by a common language LOL

[magic32]

Forget it man... Americans and Brits are divided by a common language LOL

Agreed.

M.

[Snrf]

IT CAN'T BE A BETTER EXAMPLE WHEN MINE OF TWO OPPOSITES COEXISTING, AND OIL AND WATER CAN'T (NOT PEACEABLY).

What does oil and water mixing have to do with antonyms? I didn't even mention oil and water

THE NOVICE'S QUESTION IS IRRELEVANT BECAUSE HE SHOULDN'T BE USING THEM ANYWAY. THE RELIGION THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS ONE OR MY LOGIC IN EITHER CASE.

Your logic sucks hairy beanbag mate, forget it, im out.

[magic32]

definition of concordant

"accordant: in keeping; "salaries agreeable with current trends"; "plans conformable with your wishes"; "expressed views concordant with his background""
YOUR POINT I BELIEVE IS THAT THE ARCHITECT USES UNNECESSARY WORDS AND THAT YOU DISLIKE HIM BECAUSE OF IT. RIGHT? FINE, I HAVE NO QUARREL WITH YOU OR HIS WORDS.

"I'M STARVING, BUT I'M GOING TO EAT FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF HOURS."
What? I assume you meant not going to eat....And even if you did that still doesn't apply to this situation, you're talking about a current condition (ie that of being starving) and a later resultant action. Whereas he is describing something with two words with opposite meanings. It is nothing like the example you gave. A better example which follows the same pattern as he used would be to describe something with two opposite words ie "oil is liquid and solid" this is obviously not possible.
IT CAN'T BE A BETTER EXAMPLE WHEN MINE ARE OF TWO OPPOSITES COEXISTING, AND OIL AND WATER CAN'T (NOT TRULY).

And as for life being full of paradoxes that is completely beside the point, I wasn't discussing what life is, I was pointing out the architects lines were written by some flowery dickhead with a thesaurus and too much time on his hands.
NO, YOU WEREN'T DISCUSSING LIFE, BUT THE ARCHITECT WAS, HENCE THE EXAMPLE.

And as for that example for a novice asking about what to take that question is very relevant and they should be advised not to take anything. That doesn't apply here at all, just like in the religion thread before you're using convoluted logic that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
THE NOVICE'S QUESTION IS IRRELEVANT BECAUSE HE SHOULDN'T BE USING THEM ANYWAY. JUST AS NEO'S QUESTION WAS, BUT IF YOU DON'T FEEL THAT WAY...GREAT!!!

And yeah I meant "not" going to eat.

Thanks for your input,

M.

[manwithin]

A better example which follows the same pattern as he used would be to describe something with two opposite words ie "oil is liquid and solid" this is obviously not possible.

Why can't oil be a solid? State Changes don't they......
Solids can melt and become liquids, and liquids can boil to become gases. Likewise, gases can condense to become liquids, and liquids can freeze to become solids. Sometimes solids can even become gases without ever becoming liquids.

[magic32]

What does oil and water mixing have to do with antonyms? I didn't even mention oil and water



Your logic sucks hairy beanbag mate, forget it, im out.

Here we go with the vulgarities!

It's not my fault you had a problem with Architect, again great and thanks mate.

You have a good evening,

m.

[magic32]

redundant.
M

[magic32]

Why can't oil be a solid? State Changes don't they......
Solids can melt and become liquids, and liquids can boil to become gases. Likewise, gases can condense to become liquids, and liquids can freeze to become solids. Sometimes solids can even become gases without ever becoming liquids.

I didn't even want to touch that one, but maybe you can ask Mr. Logic about butter.

And did anyone here actually like the trilogy?

M.

[Flagg]

I agree that mostly everything The Architect says is a load of twaddle and I think there was a bit of misdirection in his monologue so it came off as clever/intelligent.

The character of Agent Smith is the only one in that film that made any real sense.

[manwithin]

I didn't even want to touch that one, but maybe you can ask Mr. Logic about butter.

And did anyone here actually like the trilogy?

M.

I did enjoy them...

[Snrf]

Why can't oil be a solid? State Changes don't they......
Solids can melt and become liquids, and liquids can boil to become gases. Likewise, gases can condense to become liquids, and liquids can freeze to become solids. Sometimes solids can even become gases without ever becoming liquids.

Yes but the whole point of it is he is describing the state of something at one moment in time, ie oil cannot be solid and liquid simultaneously, forget it..

And I was deliberately not being vulgar, I was trying to suggest a way I felt about your logic whilst deliberately not being vulgar.

I happen to have a hairy bean bag in my living room, suggesting your circular arguments were akin to putting it in ones mouth is in no way vulgar. It's your mind that made it so! I also meant it in a joking way anyway, thats why I didn't say anything outright vulgar.

[magic32]

I agree that mostly everything The Architect says is a load of twaddle and I think there was a bit of misdirection in his monologue so it came off as clever/intelligent.

The character of Agent Smith is the only one in that film that made any real sense.

See I thought everybody made since, just from different perspectives.

The people wanted to be free.
The machines wanted to exterminate resistance and maintain their energy source (people).

It even ended amicably and through the cooperation of both sides to eradicate a mutual enemy...SMITH.

M.

[Snrf]

and yes i liked the movies, esp the lobby shoot out of the first one, i practically came in my pants

[Flagg]

I'll reiterate...

Most of the characters made sense, each one representing a different view/opinion/philosophy just that I thought as dark as Agent Smiths was, his had the most truth I thought.

We are a virus and prehaps he's right...prehaps the purpose of life is to die because thats the one thing that happens to all of us sooner or later. I mean imagine that, that ALL life is one huge rare coincidence...an accident.

[Flagg]

In a way though, Smith became a virus too, by nearly consuming the entire Matrix.

[magic32]

Favorite character...the Merovingian.
He just wanted to keep living large!

M.

[magic32]

In a way though, Smith became a virus too, by nearly consuming the entire Matrix.

Not in a way, he was a virus (computer), infecting and assimilating diverse programs (Oracle, agents, officers, etc.).

M.

[Snrf]

Of course the merovingian was chosen as the name for that character for many reasons....some say the merovingians were descended from christ's bloodline....


I'm not saying I think that, just putting forward one of the possible reasons for their choice of name for that character

[Flagg]

Favorite character...the Merovingian.
He just wanted to keep living large!

M.

The only thing I liked about him was Monica Belluci...man that is a real woman. I was waiting for that French slimey tosser to be assimilated by Smith or something.

[cj1capp]

Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. the architect

i love these words as they remind me of my relationship with God.

[cj1capp]

these words by morpheus for insprition Don't think you are, know you are morpheus


these words also by morpheus as the express often how i have felt in life.


The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work... when you go to church... when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.




I know *exactly* what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad.

[cj1capp]

Favorite character... morpheus despite the odds his faith has keep him strong.

[magic32]

these words by morpheus for insprition Don't think you are, know you are morpheus


these words also by morpheus as the express often how i have felt in life.


The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work... when you go to church... when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
I know *exactly* what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad.

That's exactly what this world is! Too bad so many are blinded.
I'd add to those...

That you, like everyone else, was born into bondage ... kept inside a prison that you cannot smell, or taste, or touch. A prison for your mind.
-Morpheus

You have to understand that most
of these people are not ready to
be unplugged and many of them are
so inured, so hopelessly dependent
on the system that they will fight
to protect it.
-Morpheus

M.

[magic32]

Favorite character... morpheus despite the odds his faith has keep him strong.

Absolutely, and did you see the pain in his face when Neo explained how the prophecy couldn't be true because Morpheus himself said the war would be over, and that it (the prophecy) was just another form of control? Alas he was right in the end, after the subterfuge, Morpheus was right...Neo was the one and he did save them all.

Magnificent performance.

M.

[magic32]

Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. the architect

i love these words as they remind me of my relationship with God.

So true.
We are all here to do what we are all here to do.
- Oracle

No what happened, happened and it couldn't have happened any other way.
How do you know?
Because we are still alive.

M.

[CoreyTampa09]

"Ignorance is bliss"

[cj1capp]

So true.
We are all here to do what we are all here to do.
- Oracle

No what happened, happened and it couldn't have happened any other way.
How do you know?
Because we are still alive.

M.

good moring Magic thanks for the fun thread any one want to keep it going?

[magic32]

"Ignorance is bliss"

This is only true if said ignorance can’t harm you, such as the cobra that lies ahead beside your path, the armed burglar you surprise, or the car about to run the red light as you move through the intersection.

You know, I know that this steak
doesn't exist. I know when I put
it in my mouth, the Matrix is
telling my brain that it is juicy
and delicious. After nine years,
do you know what I've realized?
Ignorance is bliss.
- Cypher

To many it is, but that’s only because they hide in the dark from the responsibilities and accountability of knowledge.

M.