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    Is food the best steroid?

    I heard or read somewhere that food is the best steroid, and was wondering how true of a statement that is..

    My brother, who is a personal trainer, gained alot of size & muscle. (So much he had a few strech marks around his armpits) I asked him if he was on AS but he said that he honeslty wasn't, and was just eating alot, the right foods, lots of supplements, and training.

    So is food really the best steroid??

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    your brother is right.

    steroids only come into play when you feel your gains have leveled off after years of proper training & eating

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    Quote Originally Posted by ads21
    I heard or read somewhere that food is the best steroid, and was wondering how true of a statement that is..

    My brother, who is a personal trainer, gained alot of size & muscle. (So much he had a few strech marks around his armpits) I asked him if he was on AS but he said that he honeslty wasn't, and was just eating alot, the right foods, lots of supplements, and training.

    So is food really the best steroid??
    If he's in his late teens to early 20's then there is a good chance that he isn't taking AAS. Hormone levels are off the chart when you're young. I'm a 36 year old bastard so 18 was half a lifetime ago. God, don't want to think about that. But I still feel 22....

    YES, food is the best steroid. Very true. Nothing happens without food, I mean nothing. Well,we need to add water in there.

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    Diet is THE most important factor in building muscle. Without proper diet you will not grow no matter what AS you take.

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    I agree with the above posts...AAS is just a tool. With out all the other necessary components involved (appropriate diet, training, and health) you will not make much use of any AAS.

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    Food is the foundation - the bricks and mortar of your castle. AAS just keeps the workers moving and building bigger walls

    With that analogy said, food can easily trigger different hormonal patterns... anabolic hormones... like anabolic steroids, insulin and growth hormone...

    Here is one example is testosterone: How you eat can cause your body to produce more testosterone; or it could trigger you body to lower endogenous testosterone levels. Your body cares about survival - not cosmetic gratification. Holding a lot of muscle is metabolicaly expensive and can be dangerous to survival in the event of famine. Restricting calories or eating below your basal metabolic rate for too long can cause a drop in testosterone... this helps to shed off some of that un-economical muscle mass (once again - your body doesn't care about being big and cut). Onh the flip side, overeating (healthy fats seem to be very supportive) can keep this starvation response from becoming to overwhelming and boost testosterone secretion - with progressive resitance, training the body accepts more musculature. This is why most productive cutting diets swing calories with periods of low dieting and high calorie re-feeds...

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    i always tell people that line though. "No I don't do AAS, i just eat alot and drink protein shakes." I think it is every aas users cover up line. He is right though food is important wether you are running a cycle or not.

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    I would say a high calorie intake is what is required to gain muscle size. So yes food is the best "steriod"

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    I have seen and spoke to countless peps in the gym who say "i am on this and that and i'm not growing should i up the dose?" (some have been on upto 1.5g per week and not made any where near the sort of gains they should from that dose)

    9 times out of 10 the answer to them is no or lower the dose, then after asking what they eat and telling them/comparing it to what i eat it seems like a little light bulb pings on top of their head LOL

    "Oh yeah i dont really eat that much do i!" is normally the response

    After a few good weeks of solid eating they start to see some gains. It amasing how much diet infulences your gains/losses.

    Finally as eating causes insulin secretion i would say yes in answer to your question.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior
    Food is the foundation - the bricks and mortar of your castle. AAS just keeps the workers moving and building bigger walls

    With that analogy said, food can easily trigger different hormonal patterns... anabolic hormones... like anabolic steroids, insulin and growth hormone...

    Here is one example is testosterone: How you eat can cause your body to produce more testosterone; or it could trigger you body to lower endogenous testosterone levels. Your body cares about survival - not cosmetic gratification. Holding a lot of muscle is metabolicaly expensive and can be dangerous to survival in the event of famine. Restricting calories or eating below your basal metabolic rate for too long can cause a drop in testosterone... this helps to shed off some of that un-economical muscle mass (once again - your body doesn't care about being big and cut). Onh the flip side, overeating (healthy fats seem to be very supportive) can keep this starvation response from becoming to overwhelming and boost testosterone secretion - with progressive resitance, training the body accepts more musculature. This is why most productive cutting diets swing calories with periods of low dieting and high calorie re-feeds...
    Amen...

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    You can get an Incredible Physique with just training and quality food.Over the years I have found these are the more interesting people.They have an Awesome understanding of these two core aspects.

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    Great, u guys fuk-in rok. well..

    Since I'm 21, currently at 80kilo, been training in the army 4 a few yrs, and now really tryin now 2 bulk up.. during the day i've been eatin alot of chicken (usually about 1 whole bird a day) fair bit of tuna, and every nite i've been eatin a huge portion of eye fillet steak, bitta salad n veg in there too. Also, proteins + createin, n about 2 get bak on tribulas. And training..

    I'm pretty sure i'm on the right path to building bulk.. but wouldn't mind sum1 agree wit my diet...

    And i should also lay off from doin my 1st cycle of aas since appearently my hormone levels are off the chart cos of my age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ads21
    And i should also lay off from doin my 1st cycle of aas since appearently my hormone levels are off the chart cos of my age?
    Yes, holding off on AAS for now will only benefit you down the road.

    As for your natty test levels? I wouldn't say they would be off the chart, but what is meant by that comment is, at your age, your natty test levels should be at their peak right now when looked in comparison to normal test levels in other age catagories and to dabble with AAS at this point in your life will only negate the benefits that you can get from utilizing the peaked levels you should have at this point in your life.

    Good luck,

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    Absolutely..I preach this on all sites...Think of it this way...You take 2 grams of test a week and you weigh 260 at 6' tall...Your diet is all of 500 calories a day...My question to you is do you think your going to add mass and strength during this cycle?...If you answered no then you were right...All the gear in the world will not help you if your diet is not correct..

    Now lets take it a step further...You not on a cycle but your taking in 5000-8000 cal a day...Do you think your going to add mass and strength? Hopefully your answer is yes and now you now which is the most anabolic...

    Let at all the natural bodybuilders...that are buffed...That came from Food~!, training and the proper rest

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    Couldnt agree more with what has been said in this thread. Personally i just got back into weight training in the middle of september of this year after taking three years off (i was still exercising but not weight training). I'm 25 yrs old had run 2 cycles in the past. When i first got back into the gym i was so dissapointed, no f*ckin pissed, about how much strength and muscle mass i had lost over the years. I instantly wanted to jump right back on the gear to "get back what i lost". I put a good amount of time into reading the info on this site and decided to wait until i felt i was ready to start using gear agian. When i started training again in sept. i weighed between 195-200 lbs. As of right now i weight 210 and have kept my bf down (12-14%) and i'm gaining strength faster then i ever have before(when not on cycle obviously) . The only thing i've been doing to gain mass and strength is eating right and drinking protein shakes (along with dedicated trainging sessions). The decision i've made to stay off gear (for the present) has allowed me a lot of time to research and put together a cycle that will fit my needs. I still dont know what i'm going to do for a cycle but all the info i've learned researching has been very valuable. My advice to you is spend your time in teh diet and training forums and get those two things in check. Then continue to research AS and be active in the forums so when it comes time for you to use gear, if you choose to, you'll already have a lot of knowledge under your belt and you wont be shooting in the dark and asking questions like "whats a pct" etc. Good luck with your trainging bro. and listen to what the board members have to say they're very knowlegable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ads21
    Great, u guys fuk-in rok. well..

    Since I'm 21, currently at 80kilo, been training in the army 4 a few yrs, and now really tryin now 2 bulk up.. during the day i've been eatin alot of chicken (usually about 1 whole bird a day) fair bit of tuna, and every nite i've been eatin a huge portion of eye fillet steak, bitta salad n veg in there too. Also, proteins + createin, n about 2 get bak on tribulas. And training..

    I'm pretty sure i'm on the right path to building bulk.. but wouldn't mind sum1 agree wit my diet...

    And i should also lay off from doin my 1st cycle of aas since appearently my hormone levels are off the chart cos of my age?
    post a proper diet in the diet forum, there are some examples there on good diets in the sticky section. Also read the "things to consider" in my sig, it has some helpful links for diet. It will take a couple of hours to put one together but it will be the best couple of hours you spend when the muscle starts to grow and everyone thinks your juicing!!!

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