I have used hcg with both compunds in separate pcts, and I have pretty different effects...

The first time, I used hcg+clomid, and It took me a while till I got my sex drive back to normal... (about 3 months), but I did not lose too much mass...

The second time, I've took hcg+tamoxi, and I did got my sex drive back to normal in less than a mounth (actuaylly I even felt much hornier for the next 2 to 3 mounth, may be it was placebo, or may be my new girl is just too hot hahah) but as I said in other post, I lost extremelly too much weight... about 20 pounds in a mounth in half....(eventhough lot of it was water)

Cycles where pretty much the same, the first one was cyp+winny, the second one was cyp+var+winny... dosis where the same, but I ran more cyp the second time (about 2 more weeks, a total of 10 weeks)...

Pct was made like this:

week 1 2.500 ui hcg + 100 mg./d clomid
week 2 2.500 ui hcg + 50 mg./d clomid
week 3 2.500 ui hcg + 50 mg./d clomid

the other was like this:

week 1 2.500 ui hcg + 20 mg./d tamoxi
week 2 2.500 ui hcg + 20 mg./d tamoxi
week 3 2.500 ui hcg + 20 mg./d tamoxi


I'm thinking in trying hcg+clom+tamoxi for the next one... (and adding clen as well)

Now, i'm wondering why the different efect...