Gittin Er Dun! Cycle Critique Please

[GitErDun]

Whats up all... new on the boards, seems to be a pretty large community, hopin i get some usefull info. anyways

stats
5'9
185
16% bf (rough guess could be lower never really checked)
24 yrs
6 yrs training, on/off
This will be my second cycle

1st cycle... 16 weeks sust250 @ 500mg/wk and last 4 wks win @ 50mg ED
I was clueless about PCT and lost most of my gains... but since then ive been researching like a mutha fu<ka and am ready to do this the right way... the story of my life.... i always seem to learn the hard way

anyways cycle looks as such
wk 1-12 150mg prop EOD
wk 1-12 100mg Tren Ace EOD
Wk 4-12 50mg Anavar ED
Wk 1-12 A dex .5mg ED (i tend to bloat, and i intend to cut so...)
wk 2-12 HCG 500iu"s E4D

PCT Begins 3 days after last stab
Clomid/Nolva 100mg/40mg ED for 14 days
Clomid/Nolva 50mg/20mg ED for another 14 days

I will be consuming between 2500-3000 calories a day
2 gr protein/lb of bodyweight min
min 1 gallon H20/day
workout will be 3 way split, 1 on 1 off
cardio EOD 30min fasted in the a.m

i also have a 30 day supply of "rapid cuts hardcore" sitting around, any suggestions as to if and when i should toss it in the mix?

any additional suggestions pertaining to my PCT which will aide in retaining gains?

any additional vit/supps i should take well on cycle?

any comments on workout frequency or type of split?

any comment what so ever lol.....

thanks guys

NOW GIT ER DUN!!!!!

[GitErDun]

bump diddily ump ump

[stpete]

HMMMM...I'm not sure.

[GitErDun]

k...lol

[GitErDun]

just re-read my post, the adex is only 1 to 12 my bad

[stpete]

You're prop is the only thing i would recommend at this stage. Well, the anavar would work also, but i think your timing is wrong. I know for a fact that the test should be ran longer than the tren. I see Jigga is here so he can help more with the a-dex and hcg.
Maybe i'm completely off base, we'll see. If i am i apologize.

[GitErDun]

no worries man, thats why im here, lookin for info from the guys who know their shiat... i wont pretend to act like i know it all... its a leraning process... i dont think they offer courses anywhere so.... this is prolly one of the best avenues to educate yourself.

[stpete]

no worries man, thats why im here, lookin for info from the guys who know their shiat... i wont pretend to act like i know it all... its a leraning process... i dont think they offer courses anywhere so.... this is prolly one of the best avenues to educate yourself.

Cool. This is why i'm here also. I've been doing shizzle for quite some time now, but it's simple stuff such as test, deca, d-bol, winstrol and the not so forgiving tren ace. Always looking for something to help. And to see where it fits in.
Great guys here always willing to help.

[GitErDun]

bump.... anyone interested in lending a helpin hand out there? i did a little more research on tren myself and came across its effects on progesterone(countered by letro) and prolactin(countered by bromocriptine or cabergoline)... are these effects enough to have to worry about..... still looking for any resposes as far as the orignal cycle and questions go
thanks boys!

[one8nine]

Whats up all... new on the boards, seems to be a pretty large community, hopin i get some usefull info. anyways

stats
5'9
185
16% bf (rough guess could be lower never really checked)
24 yrs
6 yrs training, on/off
This will be my second cycle

1st cycle... 16 weeks sust250 @ 500mg/wk and last 4 wks win @ 50mg ED
I was clueless about PCT and lost most of my gains... but since then ive been researching like a mutha fu<ka and am ready to do this the right way... the story of my life.... i always seem to learn the hard way

anyways cycle looks as such
wk 1-12 150mg prop EOD
wk 1-12 100mg Tren Ace EOD
Wk 4-12 50mg Anavar ED
Wk 1-12 A dex .5mg ED (i tend to bloat, and i intend to cut so...)
wk 2-12 HCG 500iu"s E4D

you should think about injecting these every day you will have much better results
replace your adex with letro. adex wont help tren bloat but letro will.
cut your tren at week 10 to recover more easily
8 weeks of var is pushing it on top of test and tren and an ai, make it weeks 6-12
starting the hcg that early is a little excessive and could desensitize you
make you hcg weeks 10-14

PCT Begins 3 days after last stab
Clomid/Nolva 100mg/40mg ED for 14 days
Clomid/Nolva 50mg/20mg ED for another 14 days

clomid sucks
trash it
i recomend
13-16: nolva 40mg, proviron 50mg

I will be consuming between 2500-3000 calories a day
2 gr protein/lb of bodyweight min
min 1 gallon H20/day
workout will be 3 way split, 1 on 1 off
cardio EOD 30min fasted in the a.m

those calories seem low for your size/goals

i also have a 30 day supply of "rapid cuts hardcore" sitting around, any suggestions as to if and when i should toss it in the mix?

nah this gear is pleeeennntyyy enough

any additional suggestions pertaining to my PCT which will aide in retaining gains?

any additional vit/supps i should take well on cycle?

any comments on workout frequency or type of split?

any comment what so ever lol.....

thanks guys

NOW GIT ER DUN!!!!!

gnc ultra mega green vitamin =)

[GitErDun]

thanks one8nine that is what i needed, really appreciate the input, im gonna make some chanhes and repost my revised cycle.... once again, thanks

[one8nine]

thanks one8nine that is what i needed, really appreciate the input, im gonna make some chanhes and repost my revised cycle.... once again, thanks

no problem bro thats what were here for

[GitErDun]

CYCLE REVISION

WK 1-12 test prop 75mg ED
WK 1-10 Tren Ace 50mg ED
WK 6-12 Anavar 50mg ED
WK 1-12 Letro .25mg ED(is this dosage ok)
WK 10-14 HCG 500iu's E4D

PCT
WK 13-16 Nolva 40mg ED
Wk 13-16 Proviron 50mg ED

Calories will be upped to 3000-3500 ED
Will toss in GNC Ultra Mega Green throughtout entire cycle

Will use the rapid cuts hardcore prior to cycling, with cardio twice a day, to drop as much BF as Possible before going on

[one8nine]

CYCLE REVISION

WK 1-12 test prop 75mg ED
WK 1-10 Tren Ace 50mg ED
WK 6-12 Anavar 50mg ED
WK 1-12 Letro .75mg ED(is this dosage ok)
WK 10-14 HCG 500iu's E4D

PCT
WK 13-16 Nolva 40mg ED
Wk 13-16 Proviron 50mg ED

Calories will be upped to 3000-3500 ED
Will toss in GNC Ultra Mega Green throughtout entire cycle

Will use the rapid cuts hardcore prior to cycling, with cardio twice a day, to drop as much BF as Possible before going on

im not an expert on calories but check out the diet forum theres great stuff in there
letro .75mg ed is way too high- i use .25mg ed and that is very high itself

good idea with your last line you typed

[GitErDun]

gettin there

[rhino1]

what is rapid cuts???