1 cycle need som info

[kenn72]

is this a ok starter cycle??? or should the doses be bigger???


week 1-4 50mg ed anapolon
1-12 150 e3d primo
1-12 50mg ed proviron

is it ok 2 only use clomid as PCT for this cycle

week 14-18 40-20mg klomen( clomid)

age 36
height 195 cm
weight 120 kg
body fat% 12%

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

you need to run test only for a first cycle, something like..

test e or c 10-12 weeks 4/500mgs a week
pct nolva and clomid
40/20/20/20 100/50/50/50
have arimidex on hand in case of estrogen sides

your proposed cycle is completely out of whack... research a little on this site, you'll learn all u need to know

[kenn72]

why should i use test e??? isnt primobolan as god as test?? love on bi-effects
and sheap to by...

isnt it good to use Anapolon for a kick start on the cycle and i will use Proviron all the way to minimise the water

[RA]

Youd be a goat to get whatevers the sheapest...

Do what he said.

why should i use test e??? isnt primobolan as god as test?? love on bi-effects
and sheap to by...

isnt it good to use Anapolon for a kick start on the cycle and i will use Proviron all the way to minimise the water

[kenn72]

i don`t get whatevers the sheapest, but i have 6000mg of primo at home, but if all of u think it`s better to start with test e. so i`m going to try it

is it a good thing to use proviron under the cycle???

ty for the replyes

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

you need to run test because these compounds will shut down your natty test production so unless you want ED or a host of other problems, run test. first cycles are test only because if you start running multiple compounds you won't know what's causing side effects if you experience them, and also u won't know what you react good to and like the best

[kenn72]

TY Hunter great answer

didn`t think of that prob ))))

[BG]

you need to run test because these compounds will shut down your natty test production so unless you want ED or a host of other problems, run test.

I would research all the compounds he has listed and re-think this post

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

I would research all the compounds he has listed and re-think this post

i know the 3 he originally listed are generally not that supressive but I personally wouldn't run them w/out test anyway. i was just trying to explain why test is important in a cycle, and judging by this being his first cycle and asking the questions he did it seems he doesn't have too much knowledge in the subject (no offense) so I figured a small explaination of why test was important couldn't hurt

[LATS60]

i know the 3 he originally listed are generally not that supressive but I personally wouldn't run them w/out test anyway. i was just trying to explain why test is important in a cycle, and judging by this being his first cycle and asking the questions he did it seems he doesn't have too much knowledge in the subject (no offense) so I figured a small explaination of why test was important couldn't hurt

I agree with both you're posts, well put and in a manner thats understandable.

[BG]

i know the 3 he originally listed are generally not that supressive but I personally wouldn't run them w/out test anyway. i was just trying to explain why test is important in a cycle, and judging by this being his first cycle and asking the questions he did it seems he doesn't have too much knowledge in the subject (no offense) so I figured a small explaination of why test was important couldn't hurt

I hear what your saying. Now think of this, test only first cycle, but your recommending someone to take a big chance of shutting down their HPTA. Take into mind that most people here arent going to be BB'rs, just training with occasional gear use. With my friends that I know arent going to become BB'rs, I dont recommend test, why would you, most people are never the same again or get addicted to it because of the "good" feeling it provides then goes away. Many of my friends run just primo, or primo, anavar and winny with no problems. Imo test should be left for the hardcore users, it has a compound effect on your body, I know 2 people who did one cycle of test never recovered, ruined one of their marriages.

[BG]

Testosterone is a nasty drug and should be taken very seriously.

[LATS60]

Testosterone is a nasty drug and should be taken very seriously.

Testosterone is not a drug, it;s a hormone that is produced naturally in our bodies and is better tolerated than any synthetic form of testosterone, even the so called milder ones that you mention.
How do you know you're freinds suffered no problems with their use of primo, winny or var? have you seen their blood work?

[BG]

Testosterone is not a drug

How is it illegal then??? Your looking into what Im saying to deeply like you always do. I should not have to explain to you about how my friends recover, test is very addicting period, its abused more then any other hormone. Listen to all the guys that are going on hrt and arent even 25 yet. My point is that test is recommended for a first cycle, but Imo your doing more harm then good, most likley once the person gets the feeling they will keep doing it over and over, not take off enough time inbetween which leads to.....abuse.

[kenn72]

hey guys thanks for all the info

interesting to see our discussion about Test.....

i have read about anadrol, is it so damageing to the liver as people say????
if so is turanabol better to take as a kicker????

is it enough whit clomid to this cyckle?????

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

if your going to do the test cycle, recommended PCT is nolva 40/20/20/20 and clomid 100/50/50/50 (week 1,2,3,4) and if u want to use an oral also most will use dbol as a kick start for a first test cycle weeks 1-4 30/40 mgs a day split up the pills throughout the day to keep steady blood plasma levels

so the cycle will look like:

weeks 1-12 test enanthate or cypionate 4/500mgs a day split up between 2 injections every 3.5 days (ex mon morning and thurs night)
weeks 1-4 dbol 30/40 mgs
PCT nolva/clomid (14 days after last enanthate inject or 18 days for cypionate)
40/20/20/20 and 100/50/50/50
also a good idea to have arimidex on hand for estrogen related sides

good luck

[Hunter-S-Thompson]

I hear what your saying. Now think of this, test only first cycle, but your recommending someone to take a big chance of shutting down their HPTA. Take into mind that most people here arent going to be BB'rs, just training with occasional gear use. With my friends that I know arent going to become BB'rs, I dont recommend test, why would you, most people are never the same again or get addicted to it because of the "good" feeling it provides then goes away. Many of my friends run just primo, or primo, anavar and winny with no problems. Imo test should be left for the hardcore users, it has a compound effect on your body, I know 2 people who did one cycle of test never recovered, ruined one of their marriages.

I hear what your saying also, but how's it any better to tell them to run other steroids that are less powerful? eventually they'll probably want to try test anyway if they've already dabbled a few times, imo once you do ANY steroid, you'll probably continue to do so, just because test brings that "good" feeling along with it isn't enough for me to suggest ppl do something else instead, when they'll most likely end up doing test anyway

[kenn72]

ty hunter for the setup....))))) dbol=dianabol right????

[sigman roid]

ty hunter for the setup....))))) dbol=dianabol right????

you are correct

[richtries]

turinabol = better quality gains and less sides, but everyone will probably say different

[kenn72]

so now i am not confused.. lol u got to love it

so the best would be
1-4 turinabol/dbol 50 mg ed
1-12 200mg test E e3,5d
1-12 50mg proviron ed

pct-- nolva/clomid and arimidex,,week 14-18

TY again for all the help guys

[BIG_TRUCK]

If you have that much primo already then run it... You would be dumb not to run it.

1-6 Dbol 30mgs/day
1-12 Primo 600/week
1-12 Test E 400mgs/week (if dosed 200mgs/ml)

Nice looking cycle right thur.

[richtries]

why not save the primo for second cycle . . . remember its his first. and he is already including an oral in there.

[c-Z]

not to mention if he has nasty side hes not going to know what is causing it especially running dbol primo and test... hence why most will run a test only.... i would do the test e only maybe kickstart with some dbol but keep the other shit for a 2nd cycle....