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    Bicep tips(?)

    I found this on a diet website can I get some feed back and maybe it will be use full for some people.

    People usually regard their biceps as a glamour muscle largely because they are visible as compared to your leg muscles which are usually hidden in your pants. This is why you will see people working out to build big biceps more than they will work on their, say calf muscles. The problem is that in order to add inches of muscles to your biceps, you must know how your biceps will react to your workout training. Your biceps will respond to certain stimulus better than others, just like any of your muscle groups, they have their own preference for certain training stimuli. So instead of mindlessly curling the weights and hopping from one bicep station to another like a gym monkey in the hope of getting your biceps to grow big, all your training will be futile if you do not adhere to certain principles to add inches of rock solid muscle on your biceps.

    • Width Of Grip In Bicep Curls – Do understand that the width of your grip when training your biceps do make a difference. A wide grip on the barbell works harder on your inner biceps whereas a narrow grip targets the outer biceps. This is where you can carve and sculpt the shape of your biceps.

    • Consistent Bicep Tension – When curling to the top position, do not bring your forearm up to be perpendicular to the floor. In doing so, you will actually be easing the load on your biceps and you are thus allowing your biceps to rest in between reps. Similarly when lowering the weights, you should not let them lower all the way, but keep a little bent in your elbows at the bottom position. In other words, always maintain bicep tension during a given set of exercise.

    •Arm Movements – Working your biceps with dumb bells allow you to work your biceps through elbow flexion and hand supination. This allows your workout to have more variation and hitting different angle of your bicep muscles and at the same time, varying the parts played by supporting muscles. When working with barbells, your grip is one of supination which helps in maximizing bicep contraction to force new muscle growth.

    •Isolation Bicep Exercises – Exercises like the preacher curls and concentration curls isolate your biceps and prevent supporting muscles like your deltoids from kicking in. Isolation exercises force your biceps to contract and work harder activating new growth and forcing your biceps to have that “peaked” look.

    •Mix Your Exercises – Change exercises and routines after every few weeks. Instead of doing barbell curls, then hammer curls, reverse your routine with doing your hammer curls then follow up by barbell curls. This is only one example of so many variables you can use when you are executing your bicep exercises to add inches on your biceps and forcing your muscles to grow big. The idea is to keep your biceps guessing and to prevent them from adapting to your routine and hitting a plateau.

    There you are, keep these principles in mind when working out your biceps and watch your guns peak explode in size.

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    good read! I do most of these things on my own ussually except the last one, ill have to try doing my routine backwards or out of order! thanks for the good stuff!

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    first thign i read was isolation of the biceps.... IMPOSSIBLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatrainrest View Post
    first thign i read was isolation of the biceps.... IMPOSSIBLE
    I have read probably a 100 of your posts and I have to tell ya I do not think you have ever once actually agreed with another member or complimented them on the stuff they are doing or what they are thinking about doing! I know you are a PT but you need to not think you are 100% right in your thoughts every time and realize people are all different and different thinks for different people! Tell you what, I may not have my personal trainer cert. yet, but i know I have more information and knowledge on the subject than about 65% of the trainers I have met in my life! And i have met PT in New York, New Jersey, Arizona, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, and my homeotwn of Syracuse New York. and I am sill confident with that statement! You need to lighten up a little. just because you got a cert. does not mean that everbodies info is wrong and yours is right. Like for instance You thave told me on 3 different posts all with different workout routines and your answer to all 3 was... Your doing to much! 15-20 sets for the quads is not too much! nor is it too much for the back or for the chest. For the arms, traps, calves, yes 9-12 is enough/ it is just funny that it is always you and it seems like no matter what anyone else is doing they are wrong in your eyes!

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    It's a very good article but like eatrainrest stated you cannot totally isolate or change the shape of your biceps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninesecz View Post
    I have read probably a 100 of your posts and I have to tell ya I do not think you have ever once actually agreed with another member or complimented them on the stuff they are doing or what they are thinking about doing! I know you are a PT but you need to not think you are 100% right in your thoughts every time and realize people are all different and different thinks for different people! Tell you what, I may not have my personal trainer cert. yet, but i know I have more information and knowledge on the subject than about 65% of the trainers I have met in my life! And i have met PT in New York, New Jersey, Arizona, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, and my homeotwn of Syracuse New York. and I am sill confident with that statement! You need to lighten up a little. just because you got a cert. does not mean that everbodies info is wrong and yours is right. Like for instance You thave told me on 3 different posts all with different workout routines and your answer to all 3 was... Your doing to much! 15-20 sets for the quads is not too much! nor is it too much for the back or for the chest. For the arms, traps, calves, yes 9-12 is enough/ it is just funny that it is always you and it seems like no matter what anyone else is doing they are wrong in your eyes!

    im sorry i come off liek that sometimes, too bad computers cant show emotions lol. im not flaming anybody i just throw my .02 and if you take it that way well its not intended to offend you. and of course im not that naive or cocky. as a trainer, i have worked, seen, experiemented, and have formulated certain beliefs that i hold through my experiences and through others (clients, co-workers). as people on the board know that im always open for criticism and open minded to the board. i actually take the comment as disrespect as i dedicate alot of my time trying to help various members throughout the board all over the forums

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninesecz View Post
    I have read probably a 100 of your posts and I have to tell ya I do not think you have ever once actually agreed with another member or complimented them on the stuff they are doing or what they are thinking about doing! I know you are a PT but you need to not think you are 100% right in your thoughts every time and realize people are all different and different thinks for different people! Tell you what, I may not have my personal trainer cert. yet, but i know I have more information and knowledge on the subject than about 65% of the trainers I have met in my life! And i have met PT in New York, New Jersey, Arizona, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, and my homeotwn of Syracuse New York. and I am sill confident with that statement! You need to lighten up a little. just because you got a cert. does not mean that everbodies info is wrong and yours is right. Like for instance You thave told me on 3 different posts all with different workout routines and your answer to all 3 was... Your doing to much! 15-20 sets for the quads is not too much! nor is it too much for the back or for the chest. For the arms, traps, calves, yes 9-12 is enough/ it is just funny that it is always you and it seems like no matter what anyone else is doing they are wrong in your eyes!
    I have been a personal trainer for 23 years and you are correct in that getting certified proves nothing. I'll go a step further and say just because someone have been to college for exercise science
    proves nothing!

    In defense of eatrainrest, he's said good things about my Slingshot Training System and has put out some very sound advice. So, he's definetely an assett to this board in my eyes. I will also agree that some can get by with 20 sets a week for chest, legs, back or even arms for a limited period of time but what I want you to understand is that when you read about a certain pro doing 20 sets for legs in a muscle magazine they often forget to tell you that some of those sets are usually warm up sets or they are sets not taken to failure. No one that I have met can do 20 sets of various squats to failure and not over-train their cns. It's practically impossible!!!! And a muscle stops firing after about 12 intense work sets. Some may be able to go as high as 15 sets but I have never seen anyone do 20 sets. In order to do 20 productive work sets you will have to resort to twice a week muscle training and perform 10 sets twice a week for legs as opposed to doing 20 sets all at once.

    No one will agree on everything but there is some common ground most of us can agree on. I also realize that sometimes it's just a matter of preference rather than principle-meaning some may feel they make better gains doing 12 sets for quads when in reality they may do just as well with 8 sets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    I have been a personal trainer for 23 years and you are correct in that getting certified proves nothing. I'll go a step further and say just because someone have been to college for exercise science
    proves nothing!

    In defense of eatrainrest, he's said good things about my Slingshot Training System and has put out some very sound advice. So, he's definetely an assett to this board in my eyes. I will also agree that some can get by with 20 sets a week for chest, legs, back or even arms for a limited period of time but what I want you to understand is that when you read about a certain pro doing 20 sets for legs in a muscle magazine they often forget to tell you that some of those sets are usually warm up sets or they are sets not taken to failure. No one that I have met can do 20 sets of various squats to failure and not over-train their cns. It's practically impossible!!!! And a muscle stops firing after about 12 intense work sets. Some may be able to go as high as 15 sets but I have never seen anyone do 20 sets. In order to do 20 productive work sets you will have to resort to twice a week muscle training and perform 10 sets twice a week for legs as opposed to doing 20 sets all at once.

    No one will agree on everything but there is some common ground most of us can agree on. I also realize that sometimes it's just a matter of preference rather than principle-meaning some may feel they make better gains doing 12 sets for quads when in reality they may do just as well with 8 sets. The mind is a powerful tool.

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    i have experimented and training for past 13 years.
    Also am a personal trainer, what i learnt through the course to get my certs were nothing to what i know through experience and everyday training.

    I can tell you now there is no way in the world the body can do 15 to 20 sets to absolute failure every single set.

    doing 15 to 20 sets, does it mean it dont work um nope no one is saying that, cause each body works differently.

    But to the defence of eatrainrest im sure he said thats way too many sets when he is keeping in mind if every set is to absolute failure i would have to agree with him.

    Also i dont believe you can change the shape of your bicep by doing certain exercises, i mean like you can get cut and pretty hard by diet.

    But i dont believe any paticular exercise can change your arm shape, its the structure and developement you are born with .

    I do believe on other hand certain exercise can give you better growth then others, thats my opinion due to past exeperience.

    no flaming here, just putting out advice.

    cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by collar View Post
    i have experimented and training for past 13 years.
    Also am a personal trainer, what i learnt through the course to get my certs were nothing to what i know through experience and everyday training.

    I can tell you now there is no way in the world the body can do 15 to 20 sets to absolute failure every single set.

    Doing 15 to 20 sets, does it mean it dont work um nope no one is saying that, cause each body works differently.

    But to the defence of eatrainrest im sure he said thats way too many sets when he is keeping in mind if every set is to absolute failure i would have to agree with him.

    Also i dont believe you can change the shape of your bicep by doing certain exercises, i mean like you can get cut and pretty hard by diet.

    But i dont believe any paticular exercise can change your arm shape, its the structure and developement you are born with .

    I do believe on other hand certain exercise can give you better growth then others, thats my opinion due to past exeperience.

    No flaming here, just putting out advice.

    Cheers.
    u da man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by collar View Post
    i have experimented and training for past 13 years.
    Also am a personal trainer, what i learnt through the course to get my certs were nothing to what i know through experience and everyday training.

    I can tell you now there is no way in the world the body can do 15 to 20 sets to absolute failure every single set.

    doing 15 to 20 sets, does it mean it dont work um nope no one is saying that, cause each body works differently.

    But to the defence of eatrainrest im sure he said thats way too many sets when he is keeping in mind if every set is to absolute failure i would have to agree with him.

    Also i dont believe you can change the shape of your bicep by doing certain exercises, i mean like you can get cut and pretty hard by diet.

    But i dont believe any paticular exercise can change your arm shape, its the structure and developement you are born with .

    I do believe on other hand certain exercise can give you better growth then others, thats my opinion due to past exeperience.

    no flaming here, just putting out advice.

    cheers.
    yepp

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    I was also not trying to flame you EatSleep Rest but Just was wound up yesterday! You do provide a lot of good informationa dn it is good to have you here! Just felt like sometimes people are on here looking for some type of approval and then they get slammed! As Larry the cable guy would say.. " Lord I apologize"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninesecz View Post
    I was also not trying to flame you EatSleep Rest but Just was wound up yesterday! You do provide a lot of good informationa dn it is good to have you here! Just felt like sometimes people are on here looking for some type of approval and then they get slammed! As Larry the cable guy would say.. " Lord I apologize"
    no hard feelings

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