Where to Start????

[bollox1975]

Just a Query as a newbie with so much conflicting info around the place, I just wanted to get a general consensus on what people thought. Any info on where to get started would be greatly appreciated. I have recently obtained the folllowing courses

500ml of Clen
6 weeks Dbol
6 Weeks of Deca
6 Weeks of Sus

What would be the best cycle and where do I start to achieve the best gains, i have read up on the dosages so that part is fairly clear. As i said any help would be greatly appreciated....

[sigman roid]

Stats first
Age?
Weight?
Height?
bf%

[lovbyts]

OK but first we need more information.
Age
heiht
weight
body fat
diet
goals

Also, the cycle is TO short,
Sus needs to be pinned Ed or EOD and ran 12+ weeks
Deca needs ran 10-12 weeks pinned 2x a week.

What is the dose of each you plan on running.

Dont forget the stats first including AGE...

[bollox1975]

Age : 34
Height: 5 11"
Weight: 96Kg
BF%: 20%
Goals: Tone & Build Mass
Diet: is below from a friend who is competion BB

BREAKFAST 6AM


One cup of Oats with water and a Banana plus Protein shake.





MORNING TEA 9AM


300 Grams of grilled chicken breast with salad or vegies





LUNCH 12pm


300 grams of steak with 1 cup of steamed rice & salad



AFTERNOON TEA 3PM


Protein shake with water & 250 grams of tuna



DINNER 6PM


300 Grams of steak with vegies and 2 jacket potatoes



BEFORE YOU GO TO BED 9PM


Protein Shake with water

you need to remember that for every KILO of body weight you must consume 3 grams of protein per day for maximum gains. So

If you weigh in at 100kg you must have 300grams of protein per day.




The Dosage I have been recommended to take is as follows:

- 2x 1ml ampoule of Sus per Week with a course of 2x 1ml ampoule of Deca on alternating Days.

-Dbol 6x 10mg Tabs Per Day
2ml Per Day of Clen with the Dbol

Thanks again for any input hope this helps with steering me in the right direction. Cheers

[sigman roid]

Looking at the compounds you have you do not have enough of anything to do a decent cycle also for a first cycle it is recommended using only 1 compound usally testE or c. your body fat is quite high as well and really needs to be around the 15% mark before starting any cycle higher bf% leads to higher risk of side effects such as gyno/high bp

[stpete]

^^^^^ x2.

[bollox1975]

Looking at the compounds you have you do not have enough of anything to do a decent cycle also for a first cycle it is recommended using only 1 compound usally testE or c. your body fat is quite high as well and really needs to be around the 15% mark before starting any cycle higher bf% leads to higher risk of side effects such as gyno/high bp

What dosages & how long a cycle would be effective, also is it possible purely to use the Clen to reduce my BF% obviously with diet & regular training.

[sigman roid]

Personally i would not use the clen for now work on diet and training to lower your body fat a effective first cycle would be along the lines of test e or c 4-500mg per week split into 2 doses every 3.5 days for 10-12 weeks followed by a pct of clomid and nolva

[sigman roid]

If you did a 12 week cycle then pct would start week 15 and would be run like this
nolva
40/20/20/20
clomid
100/50/50/50

[bollox1975]

Thanks for your Help

[sigman roid]

no problem

[bollox1975]

no problem

Hi Sigman just to pick your Brains again, why or how can using Anabolics with a BF% of over 15% bring Gyno symptoms???

[sigman roid]

Its not that it will bring on gyno symptoms its just you are putting yourself at a higher risk of it due to the fact you have more bf