Frank mirr is the truth

[icepick27]

frank mirr put on 25lbs of soild muscle i give him respect just for doing that ,and he tighten up every aspect of his game .I know check congo is not no world beater but he is definlitly better then brett rodgers and frank went in there and iced him quick i think frank belongs n the top 3 HEAVYWEIGHTS in the wrold with out a doubt .

[gunslinger2]

I agree. The other two are Brock and Fedor.

[Hunter]

frank mirr put on 25lbs of soild muscle i give him respect just for doing that ,and he tighten up every aspect of his game .I know check congo is not no world beater but he is definlitly better then brett rodgers and frank went in there and iced him quick i think frank belongs n the top 3 HEAVYWEIGHTS in the wrold with out a doubt .

Yeah cause be beat Kongo. I forget how great Kongo looked in his last fight not to mention he was tailor made for frank to beat. Frank Mir is a paper tiger. He has beat no one of note besides a staph infected Nog.

[terraj]

A fit Nog would take him.

[redz]

Nogs best days are behind him. Mir would still lose to Brock in a re-match that is if Brock ever fights again.

[gunslinger2]

Nogs best days are behind him. Mir would still lose to Brock in a re-match that is if Brock ever fights again.

Agreed, and Fedor would beat him to death.

[elpropiotorvic]

for some pride reason (in my opinion) he always smiles and tries to make his corner believe that he is good, when he is really going bad....He hasnt tried the taste of deception....and the day he does...he will change his way of thinking and probably be a very very memorable fighter...now hes not worth to cheer for IMHO

[Hunter]

Win Cheick Kongo Technical Submission (Guillotine Choke) Beat a B level fighter
Loss Brock Lesnar TKO (Punches) Loss to a good fighter...badly
Win Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira TKO (Punches) Beat a staph infected Nog
Win Brock Lesnar Submission (Kneebar) Beat a green Brock still a solid win
Win Antoni Hardonk Submission (Kimura) Beat a b-level fighter
Loss Brandon Vera TKO (Punches) Loss to a decent fighter at best
Win Dan Christison Decision (Unanimous) beat a b-level fighter in a awful preformance
Loss Marcio Cruz TKO (Punches and Elbows) Got piss pounded by a b-level fighter
Win Tim Sylvia Technical Submission (Armbar) Beat a good fighter
Win Wes Sims KO (Punches) Beat wes sims unimpressed once again. b-level fighter
Win Wes Sims DQ (Kicking a Downed Opponent) dq cant comment
Win David Abbott Submission (Toe Hold) Beat a B level fighter again
Loss Ian Freeman TKO (Punches) Got piss pounded by a b-level fighter
Win Pete Williams Submission (Inside Shoulder Lock) B-level fighter
Win Roberto Traven Submission (Armbar) B level fighter again
Win Dan Quinn Submission (Triangle Choke)
Win Jerome Smith Decision

Please tell me why he is ranked so high? a resume of wins and losses to b-level fighters.

[Brown Ninja]

You called Dan Christenson B level. You are far to kind! He was losing that fight to for awhile

[gunslinger2]

I would have to disagree with Tim Sylvia being a good fighter. Even as the champ he was a B fighter at best.

[Hunter]

I would have to disagree with Tim Sylvia being a good fighter. Even as the champ he was a B fighter at best.

Timmy is ugly dumb and probably smelly. However he has some solid wins. He beat a prime Ricco, the same guy who dominated nog and got robbed. He beat AA twice is who a good fighter just hit or miss. Stopped cabbage. Is he past his prime? Yes. At the time mir beat him was he solid? for sure.

[Hunter]

You called Dan Christenson B level. You are far to kind! He was losing that fight to for awhile

I know its christmas I am giving away presents!

[bjpennnn]

frank is a tough guys to i love his bjj

[bjpennnn]

I would have to disagree with Tim Sylvia being a good fighter. Even as the champ he was a B fighter at best.

agreeed

[zimmy]

Win Cheick Kongo Technical Submission (Guillotine Choke) Beat a B level fighter
Loss Brock Lesnar TKO (Punches) Loss to a good fighter...badly
Win Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira TKO (Punches) Beat a staph infected Nog
Win Brock Lesnar Submission (Kneebar) Beat a green Brock still a solid win
Win Antoni Hardonk Submission (Kimura) Beat a b-level fighter
Loss Brandon Vera TKO (Punches) Loss to a decent fighter at best
Win Dan Christison Decision (Unanimous) beat a b-level fighter in a awful preformance
Loss Marcio Cruz TKO (Punches and Elbows) Got piss pounded by a b-level fighter
Win Tim Sylvia Technical Submission (Armbar) Beat a good fighter
Win Wes Sims KO (Punches) Beat wes sims unimpressed once again. b-level fighter
Win Wes Sims DQ (Kicking a Downed Opponent) dq cant comment
Win David Abbott Submission (Toe Hold) Beat a B level fighter again
Loss Ian Freeman TKO (Punches) Got piss pounded by a b-level fighter
Win Pete Williams Submission (Inside Shoulder Lock) B-level fighter
Win Roberto Traven Submission (Armbar) B level fighter again
Win Dan Quinn Submission (Triangle Choke)
Win Jerome Smith Decision

Please tell me why he is ranked so high? a resume of wins and losses to b-level fighters.

wow we usually agree on alot of things...but put kongo at a b level and then put tim sylvia as a good fighter?

[goose]

wow we usually agree on alot of things...but put kongo at a b level and then put tim sylvia as a good fighter?

Tim at that time was an A fighter,he was unbeaten.

Dont forget the big bike injury he had....

But I agree he is not special,and fedor would destroy him.

[Hunter]

wow we usually agree on alot of things...but put kongo at a b level and then put tim sylvia as a good fighter?

Congo's big win is a washed up cro cop. Tim had beat a prime ricco and has beat AA twice back when people thought AA was amazing. Tim gets hated on a lot. Is he a B level fighter now? yes was he when Mir beat him? In my opinion no.

[BG]

^^^You gotta remember his loss to cruz was after not fighting for a long period of time, look at ShoGun, he almost lost to Coleman but just put on the fight of his life agtainst Machita. Now Im not saying Mirs the truth, but since he has said he is giving 100% he has looked good. As far as Nog, he shouldnt have got in the ring, second fight against Brock he looked pretty good until the dumb knee and Kongo he out struck a striker....I bet everyone thought Mir would go for a take down right away, nope he threw a bomb. You have to give him credit he's doing well, I would like to see a Nog rematch or even against Valezquez (SP).

[J-Dogg]

I agree with 2 people on this thread.

BG "the bad guy"

and

Ice Pick.

No one can discredit Mir's knowledge of the sport. He's a true scholar of MMA. He calls fights way more accurately on WEC than anyone else who ever has, including Randy in the UFC. So the knowledge is there, he is great at putting together a game plan.

The fact that he has put on 25lbs of muscle shows his drive, and dedication. It's got to be really hard to put on that size and still train through a rigorous MMA training regimen.

You guys are ridiculous to think the man's record reflects his ability. He's recently lost to Brock, but has convincingly beat everyone else placed in front of him. He's suppose to fight Carwin, and I still don't even think that's a true test for him as I feel Carwin is all hype only because he's "as big as brock".

But who would you place him against that would dominate him other than Brock or Fedor? and I think he might be able to fair better against Fedor than Brock could because he is a student of the sport, he would take time to think out the fight and try his best to find a flaw in Fedors seemingly flawless game.

[Brown Ninja]

I think Carwin would beat Mir badly
I thing Gonzaga would put the hurt on Mir as well
Mir will not beat Lesnar in the rubber match
Nog Mir two needs to happen.....great match up and i am curious to see how a healthy Nog does.
Mir at this point is definately elite but I still think there are a few out there that would put a beating on him. I would love to see Barnett fight Mir.

[graeme87]

I think Carwin would beat Mir badly
I thing Gonzaga would put the hurt on Mir as well
Mir will not beat Lesnar in the rubber match
Nog Mir two needs to happen.....great match up and i am curious to see how a healthy Nog does.
Mir at this point is definately elite but I still think there are a few out there that would put a beating on him. I would love to see Barnett fight Mir.

I agree 100%

Fedor
Nog
Barnett
Lesnar
Gonzaga
Carwin

are all better than Mir, I'm not sure about Valasquez (if he could punch he would be)

[graeme87]

Don’t get me wrong I’m not hating or Frank Mir, I’m a fan and I think he has some good matches ahead of him.

He’s got tricky southpaw striking that I didn’t really appreciate until the Nog fight, I know Nog was not healthy and I think Nog will take the rematch but it was still a good display of striking.

[icepick27]

Yeah cause be beat Kongo. I forget how great Kongo looked in his last fight not to mention he was tailor made for frank to beat. Frank Mir is a paper tiger. He has beat no one of note besides a staph infected Nog.

Please tell me why guys like josh barnett was even ranked at all and also tell me why when fedor beats a guy like brett rodger who was rotating tires at pep boys a few monthes before the fight and gets all the props in the world . And frank was like 20 years old when he started and won the title so putting up his old record is just stupid .why don't you put up his new record since he started his real come back ,I will ,he embarrased nog and tapped lesnar ,o but wait nog was sick right ?? That's just dum too . Since his come back his stand up got 100x better and he put on 25 lbs of muscle ,you said congo was tailor made for him cause frank is a
Ground guy and congo ain't right ? Well if I rember correctly I think he dropped him with one shot and beat him standing up right? Then tapped him and put him asleep,so stop being a frigin hater all the time your one of those guys who hates on ufc fighters.stop !!!...and to be honest I think mirr a fedor would be a good fight .I mean if brett rodger can break his nose and ground and pound him , what can frank do ????

[icepick27]

Fedor should of beat rodgers seconds into the first round ,instaed of getting his nose broke and held down and punched in the face . but your probaly going to tell me that fedor ment to get his nose broke ,and that it was all a part of his master superman plan to come back and win right??? IMO fedor had aloit of ring rust due to fighting bums for 5 years ,or that compitition just got better that's why he is hiding over strikeforce....

[J-Dogg]

Please tell me why guys like josh barnett was even ranked at all and also tell me why when fedor beats a guy like brett rodger who was rotating tires at pep boys a few monthes before the fight and gets all the props in the world . And frank was like 20 years old when he started and won the title so putting up his old record is just stupid .why don't you put up his new record since he started his real come back ,I will ,he embarrased nog and tapped lesnar ,o but wait nog was sick right ?? That's just dum too . Since his come back his stand up got 100x better and he put on 25 lbs of muscle ,you said congo was tailor made for him cause frank is a
Ground guy and congo ain't right ? Well if I rember correctly I think he dropped him with one shot and beat him standing up right? Then tapped him and put him asleep,so stop being a frigin hater all the time your one of those guys who hates on ufc fighters.stop !!!...and to be honest I think mirr a fedor would be a good fight .I mean if brett rodger can break his nose and ground and pound him , what can frank do ????

I agree here also,

Barnett is a ranked fighter off his record 2 years ago. And to be quite honest as good as Fedor is, he's still riding on the coat tails of his dominance in pride.

People forget how fast MMA is evolving. The top fighters of 2005 are no longer your top fighters of today. Shogun and Fedor are the only guys who have had recent good showings of the guys who were your top level fighters years ago. Chuck, Tito, CC, Wandy, AA, Sylvia and many more fighters use to be very dominate and do not fair so hot anymore. There is a better breed of talent out there beating these guys consistently.

Before you guys start barraging me with your fight statistics of your former dominate and favorite fighters realize it's pointless and if you are a MMA fan and have been for years, you have to see that the sport is evolving very fast, and only a few fighters have been able to evolve with it.

Mir is one of those athletes and it's a testimony to his MMA IQ. He reads fighters very well, his losses or victories of 2 years ago are extremely irrelevant today.

If Nog was sick, it did not matter. He was never showing signs of gasing, he was out skilled on his feet, and that's all there is too it. It did not make it far enough in the fight for fatigue to play a factor. Mir did not just win his recent fights, he won them in very impressive and dominate ways. With exception of Brock, no one has had him in any danger.

MMA is like any sport, teams get hot and go on streaks, seem unbeatable. MMA fighters do the same and Mir is hot right now. He's not beating people (comparing NBA scores) 100 to 110. He's blowing them out 75 to 130.

It will be intresting to see what the odds come in at Vs. Carwin, but I'm guessing they will favor Mir so maybe all you guys can put money on the flavor of the month UFC Heavy Weight and make a killing.

[icepick27]

J dogg ,that was so well put iam speachless good ****ing post .......finally some one with a brain that. That don't ride the past and fighters records

[Brown Ninja]

Frank mur