MethylTren and Prop and Anavar

[jasperhup]

Hey all,

for my next cycle I plan on running Prop 70mg ED and orals.

I was thinking 8 weeks of prop, 4 weeks to start of methyltren, and then switching over to anavar for the last 4.

Does this make sense? I figure anavar is light enough on the liver that I'll be good for 4 weeks on it even after running the meth tren.

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[D7M]

age?

cycle experience?

[laduem88]

stats, but thats seems like an interesting cycle (in a good way)..kind of hard on the liver though

[Vitruvian-Man]

thats seems like an interesting cycle (in a good way)..kind of hard on the liver though

IMO no oral should be ran consecutively post methyl-tren. MT is the most liver toxic steroid produced. Four weeks on MT will tax your liver like no other.. and anavar can still have a standing impact on your lipid profiles / liver values even though it's considered a 'mild' steroid.

... I wonder why it is that everyone forgets those two important aspects of 'stats'

[laduem88]

not to mention var is mild but when you run it @ 80-100 , just because its mild when you run it at a good dose it wont be as mild as people think

[jasperhup]

i'm 32. one cycle and years of lifting and competitive athletics.

so would i better off just upping my dosage of prop, or going 500mg throughout and just not doing anything after the methtren?

i'd be doing .5 g a day of mtren and 40mg a day of anavar.

feed back is appreciated, thanks.

[laduem88]

i'm 32. one cycle and years of lifting and competitive athletics.

so would i better off just upping my dosage of prop, or going 500mg throughout and just not doing anything after the methtren?

i'd be doing .5 g a day of mtren and 40mg a day of anavar.

feed back is appreciated, thanks.

1. you dont do oral tren after only doing one cycle

2. .5g of oral tren!!! i hope you mean .5mg

[CoreyJoseph]

yea conversion for ya I hope he ment .5mg because thats 500mcg but .5g would be 5000mg and 50000mcg = DEATH

[laduem88]

yea conversion for ya I hope he ment .5mg because thats 500mcg but .5g would be 5000mg and 50000mcg = DEATH

lol what would happen if someone where to take that much? like im sure they would die but would it be quick and painless?

[D7M]

1. You dont do oral tren after only doing one cycle

2. .5g of oral tren!!! I hope you mean .5mg

....x2!

[Rex9933]

idk if u should even run the mt. anavar for 4 weeks is too short anyway dude

[jasperhup]

yes, of course I mean 500mcg per day.

so what would be the problem doing methyltren for the 2nd cycle? I understand tren is harsh, but by all accounts this is less harsh than tren ace, and I could just discontinue it if sides get bad. the short halflife has to be a much safer thing than regular tren.

any more input is appreciated, I hear the idea loud and clear that even var might be too much after, but would you guys up the prop in weeks 5-8 or just keep it the same?

[Rex9933]

yes, of course I mean 500mcg per day.

so what would be the problem doing methyltren for the 2nd cycle? I understand tren is harsh, but by all accounts this is less harsh than tren ace, and I could just discontinue it if sides get bad. the short halflife has to be a much safer thing than regular tren.

any more input is appreciated, I hear the idea loud and clear that even var might be too much after, but would you guys up the prop in weeks 5-8 or just keep it the same?

methyltren is more harsh than inject tren dude

[Vitruvian-Man]

yes, of course I mean 500mcg per day.

so what would be the problem doing methyltren for the 2nd cycle? I understand tren is harsh, but by all accounts this is less harsh than tren ace, and I could just discontinue it if sides get bad. the short halflife has to be a much safer thing than regular tren.

any more input is appreciated, I hear the idea loud and clear that even var might be too much after, but would you guys up the prop in weeks 5-8 or just keep it the same?

MT is much harsher on the body then injectable tren. It's liver toxicity cannot be over-exaggerated IMO..

Anyways... Why don't you just do something like this:

Prop (weeks 1 - 8) @ 70mg ED
Anavar (weeks 1 - 8) @ 80 - 100mg ED

A high dosage of anavar will have similar cutting & hardening effects to tren. If you can't afford it, you could always run the var for the last 6 weeks instead.

I would even suggest T-bol and var over var / MT. (If you're dead set on running 2 orals for some reason.... (IE)

Prop (weeks 1 - 8) @ 70mg ED
Anavar (weeks 1 - 8) @ 40 - 50mg ED
T-bol (weeks 1 - 8) @ 50mg ED

[Rex9933]

MT is much harsher on the body then injectable tren. It's liver toxicity cannot be over-exaggerated IMO..

Anyways... Why don't you just do something like this:

Prop (weeks 1 - 8) @ 70mg ED
Anavar (weeks 1 - 8) @ 80 - 100mg ED

A high dosage of anavar will have similar cutting & hardening effects to tren. If you can't afford it, you could always run the var for the last 6 weeks instead.

I would even suggest T-bol and var over var / MT. (If you're dead set on running 2 orals for some reason.... (IE)

Prop (weeks 1 - 8) @ 70mg ED
Anavar (weeks 1 - 8) @ 40 - 50mg ED
T-bol (weeks 1 - 8) @ 50mg ED

ive heard the same on the high dose var. my friend swears by it. he said that its the only aas that rivals tren at 100mg/ed

[jasperhup]

wow, some really helpful feed back guys, i am taking it on board.

now I have heard that mtren is harsh, but that it's a better tren introduction since if it is too harsh its short half life allows for a quick ending of the experiment.

I mean I know the orthodoxy says that one should do 4 or 5 cycles and then run tren ace, but there is actually a larger commitment to that compound vs Mtren, and I've read some differing opinions (basically that after a cycle or two you should understand what you need to do and if you can take tren or not you'll know only when you try).

I very much appreciate the standard board thinking and it has been extremely helpful, but BJJ and a couple of others have sort have bucked the trends and also got some good results, so I like to turn over every stone before making my final choice.

[Rex9933]

no problem. thats why we hear dogg

[jasperhup]

either way, if i get the mtren cheap i'll try it for the first week, if i feel messed or my liver values go nuts i'll stop and do the 500mg/week prop 80mg/day var for 8 weeks.

then i'll be jack J Jacked, mayor of jackedville USA

[Rex9933]

hahahah. never heard that before!

[Vitruvian-Man]

then i'll be jack J Jacked, mayor of jackedville USA

.... how old did you say you were again...?

lolll just kidding

[jasperhup]

hahaha, i'm 32 and a respected professional in finance. i suppose i have a less than savory side too!

[laduem88]

hahahah. never heard that before!

HAHA x2 im going to start saying that

[Rex9933]

im thinking about it lol

[jasperhup]

all the ar bros are welcome to use my lines (i have a ton of em) but please, credit where it's due!

[Rex9933]

all the ar bros are welcome to use my lines (i have a ton of em) but please, credit where it's due!

hahah u got it! what are your other lined then bro?

[gymnerd]

I would run the var for 8wks and loose the MT.

[Rex9933]

^ have u run mt before?

[gymnerd]

^ have u run mt before?

No, but I have run var and 4wks is a waste should be 6-8wks atleast 50mg ED IMO. I would not run any other oral with or directly after MT I actually feel that way with any oral seeing how MT is the most toxic AAS you can take I would double that suggestion.

[Rex9933]

4 weeks is way too short. if i run it, i'll def go 80-100mg for 8 weeks or so. gotta get the most of it

[laduem88]

4 weeks is way too short. if i run it, i'll def go 80-100mg for 8 weeks or so. gotta get the most of it

yessir, cant wait til i run it @ 100mg for 8 weeks

[RANA]

You might want to look into halo, drop the MT

[jasperhup]

wow, a lot of anti MT statements.

Is this because guys have gotten bad results from it, or that it isn't good for me because I'm on my 2nd cycle?

i did look into halo, and it is something i want to try, but don't think it's available to me right now, so it's var or mt. tnx tho.

[Rex9933]

becaue its ur second cycle. mt gives great results dude..

[laduem88]

MT is amazing from what iv heard from everyone, its not that its bad, its because theres no reason for you to take it as part of a 2nd or even 3rd cycle. stick to var. as far as halo unless your purely going for strength or pre contest dont do it.

[Rex9933]

id say stick to var also. u have enough time to run mt in the future bro. no rush. especially with that compound!

[binsser]

change ur tren m8 honest dont bother with mt at all in anyway its bad news bud honest use tren ace instead its safer bud!

[Rex9933]

change ur tren m8 honest dont bother with mt at all in anyway its bad news bud honest use tren ace instead its safer bud!

i think i'll have to agree with this. i think i read in the profile here, they said 1mg of mt equals 300mg of tren ace lol. damn is all i have to stay

[Schmidty]

wow, a lot of anti MT statements.

Is this because guys have gotten bad results from it, or that it isn't good for me because I'm on my 2nd cycle?

i did look into halo, and it is something i want to try, but don't think it's available to me right now, so it's var or mt. tnx tho.

i FVCKN LOVE MT it cuts way better then tren and makes me stronger then when im on drol but its not sumthing that should be taken lightly at all and u need a fair amountof experince if ur gona use it. I love oral steroids way way more then inj, i get a real jacked feeling from orals that i dont really get form any inj. if ur anything like me and i guess u wouldnt really know yet if u are seeing how u have only done one cycle but if u feel like u have to run a oral use var or tbol through ur cycle. BTW im not saying i run orals through my whole cycle im just saying i get a feeling from orals that are unmatched by any inj

[jasperhup]

I've taken all of this on board and I'm going straight prop and var yo!

i think 3rd or 4th cycle (buying enough for next 2, so will do my prop var 2x most likely) i might rock out with my glock out and go tren, but injectable is really cheap given how fkn strong it is (vs var, prop and mast). will run hcg, have my pct down pat, training like a mexican fence jumper.

im even moving closer to the gym so i'll be able to bike there and shit.

[Rex9933]

I've taken all of this on board and I'm going straight prop and var yo!

i think 3rd or 4th cycle (buying enough for next 2, so will do my prop var 2x most likely) i might rock out with my glock out and go tren, but injectable is really cheap given how fkn strong it is (vs var, prop and mast). will run hcg, have my pct down pat, training like a mexican fence jumper.

im even moving closer to the gym so i'll be able to bike there and shit.

how much var u donna run?