TEST LEVELS low...need help

[Musa]

hi i need help with something...

i got my test levels back and total test is 237...the doc said normal is 300-1080
i am 28 , 5'11 210 , last cycle about 7 months ago, did hcg ,clomid and nolva ....

what is the normal test for my age????
thanks

[FranciscoG]

600s is the normal.

What was the cycle?
What was the PCT?

[FranciscoG]

And what other tests did you have done?

[Musa]

it was eod 100mg tren , 100mg test prop...about 4 months
15000mcg (3 amps)hcg last month about and then comid and nolva...WTF

[Musa]

free test: 55
% free test 2.3
thyroid normal 1.14
liver and kidneys good
cbc normal
cholesterole not so good...nothing major

[Musa]

also tryglicerides mildly elevated

[FranciscoG]

By hcg last month do you mean the last month of the cycle? How did you use the hcg?

When did you start nolv and clomid? How long did you use nold and clomid?

Do you know your cortisol levels?

[Musa]

By hcg last month do you mean the last month of the cycle? How did you use the hcg?

When did you start nolv and clomid? How long did you use nold and clomid?

Do you know your cortisol levels?

last month hcg , about 1000 eod....nolva and clomid for about 6 weeks after the hcg ( after cycle) nolva 20mg clomid 100mg ed

no corta levels

[FranciscoG]

So bascially you did.

100mg TA EOD 1-16
100mg TP EOD 1-16
1000 IU hCG 3 times a week on cycle last 4 weeks of cycle

PCT
20mg ED nolv 1-6
100mg clomid ED 1-6


Its been 7 months since your PCT?

When is your next cycle? What is your goal?

[Musa]

So bascially you did.

100mg TA EOD 1-16
100mg TP EOD 1-16
1000 IU hCG 3 times a week on cycle last 4 weeks of cycle

PCT
20mg ED nolv 1-6
100mg clomid ED 1-6


Its been 7 months since your PCT?

When is your next cycle? What is your goal?

about 7 months , my goal is to get to normal levels for now
so i have 237 and normal is 600 , so how much i would have to take a week to get to normal levels???

[FranciscoG]

Do you have an AI or a SERM on hand? How much do you have and what compound?

[Musa]

Do you have an AI or a SERM on hand? How much do you have and what compound?

dont have anything at all......how do you calculate that , how much test per mg am i missing from 237 to about 600

[FranciscoG]

Not to make an extra long post but to try to answer your question in a short mannor.

Your bodies ability to have free test depends on a few factors. The scaled test that you had done is not a stand alone measure to determine every aspect. But with such low levels one can assume (just assuming) you are about 50% on or about. If a male body makes 50mg of bio-iden test EW you are in the 20s (trying to give you a general idea not exacts)

If you are willing to lay of cycling and want to regain homeostasis you need to continue to get blood work done.

You can use another course of nolv @ 20mg ED for another 6 weeks, but from your comments it seams that you are just not responding to that. That is not unusual. Many people react differently to different meds.

Run 25mg Aromasin ED for 30 days.
3 IU of hGH ED 5 days on 2 days off.

Go get blood work done again.
If you can get hGH that will also help.

It may take months. You have to understand that from the cycle you ran and the PCT you did, you just did not respond properly for recovery.

Also keep in mind if you have a history of hypogonadism personally or genetically in your family recovery may not be possible.

[Musa]

Not to make an extra long post but to try to answer your question in a short mannor.

Your bodies ability to have free test depends on a few factors. The scaled test that you had done is not a stand alone measure to determine every aspect. But with such low levels one can assume (just assuming) you are about 50% on or about. If a male body makes 50mg of bio-iden test EW you are in the 20s (trying to give you a general idea not exacts)

If you are willing to lay of cycling and want to regain homeostasis you need to continue to get blood work done.

You can use another course of nolv @ 20mg ED for another 6 weeks, but from your comments it seams that you are just not responding to that. That is not unusual. Many people react differently to different meds.

Run 25mg Aromasin ED for 30 days.
3 IU of hGH ED 5 days on 2 days off.

Go get blood work done again.
If you can get hGH that will also help.

It may take months. You have to understand that from the cycle you ran and the PCT you did, you just did not respond properly for recovery.

Also keep in mind if you have a history of hypogonadism personally or genetically in your family recovery may not be possible.

thanks for the info bro .....thats a lot help


thanks

[FranciscoG]

I gotta look at the tests. Scan the tests and email them to me. I actually expected to see a lower number on that scale, but no one aspect is a stand alone generally.

Look at your FSH and LH also the problem is most docs don´t know what the **** they are doing as in this case. I would have ran cortisol, dhea, prog, estro, and many other factors but since he did not he did not. Gauge your sex drive in comparison to other periods off cycle.

PM me to night and I will get you my email addy to look at the tests.

[Musa]

I gotta look at the tests. Scan the tests and email them to me. I actually expected to see a lower number on that scale, but no one aspect is a stand alone generally.

Look at your FSH and LH also the problem is most docs don´t know what the **** they are doing as in this case. I would have ran cortisol, dhea, prog, estro, and many other factors but since he did not he did not. Gauge your sex drive in comparison to other periods off cycle.

PM me to night and I will get you my email addy to look at the tests.

there is not too much on the test , it more of a letter... i will type it to your private messages quick