Whats the best?

[meat&2veg]

Any of you guys heard of or used the following:

Oxymetholone 50mg.

Stanozolol 5mg.

Anabol Methandienone 10mg.

If so what 1 would you say is best and why???

[tembe]

they are all used for different things.... neither is best

[meat&2veg]

they are all used for different things.... neither is best

What would be best stacked with Sus250?

[Brodon]

Depends on your goal..

these are used to kickstart a cycle (usually):
Oxymetholone - anadrol - strength
Methandienone - dianabol - fast acting mass builder

used almost at the end of a cycle (the last 4 weeks) for cutting:
Stanozolol - winstrol - weightloss

[meat&2veg]

Depends on your goal..

these are used to kickstart a cycle (usually):
Oxymetholone - anadrol - strength
Methandienone - dianabol - fast acting mass builder

used almost at the end of a cycle (the last 4 weeks) for cutting:
Stanozolol - winstrol - weightloss

Good man...I was just confused by the names they had! I live in Thailand and was in pharmacy yesterday on way home from the gym to buy more Sus250 for when I start my cycle and I wanted Anavar but the guy just pulled out the 3 others listed and said he not have Anavar (Oxandrolone)...

If I can not get Anavar could I use Stanozolol?

[Brodon]

I dont know.

Tell me what you want to do. Gain Muscle? Maybe post what you plan on doing a cycle including your PCT.

[meat&2veg]

I want to build muscle but not the bloated balloon look! I want to get good gains that make me look ripped but gains I can hold on to, not just while I am on the juice!

I will be taking Sus250 @ 250mg (1amp) every Monday and Friday for 12 weeks.

Then wait 18 days from my last jab and start PCT:

Clomid - 100/100/50/50
Nolva - 40/40/20/20

Have tried to get some HCG but can not....Also I wanted Arimidex on hand to run @ .25 EOD for the 12 weeks but that is proving hard to buy aswel.

I know my diet is key to everything...

Just wanted to run 6 week Anavar @ 50mg ED for last 6 weeks...But do you think the Stanozolo will do a good job or have same affects?

Cheers

[Brodon]

If you are worried about being bloated or having water retention Stanozolo/Winstrol will do a way better job than Anavar. You'd want to run it around week 8-12. That way you will probably have to worry about bloating for a short period of time.

Maybe try finding some liv52, milk thistle, or some bile supplements to take while taking the orals if you are worried about the toxicity.

[dec11]

I want to build muscle but not the bloated balloon look! I want to get good gains that make me look ripped but gains I can hold on to, not just while I am on the juice!

I will be taking Sus250 @ 250mg (1amp) every Monday and Friday for 12 weeks.

Then wait 18 days from my last jab and start PCT:

Clomid - 100/100/50/50
Nolva - 40/40/20/20

Have tried to get some HCG but can not....Also I wanted Arimidex on hand to run @ .25 EOD for the 12 weeks but that is proving hard to buy aswel.

I know my diet is key to everything...

Just wanted to run 6 week Anavar @ 50mg ED for last 6 weeks...But do you think the Stanozolo will do a good job or have same affects?

Cheers

best make tht every mon and thurs

[dec11]

I want to build muscle but not the bloated balloon look! I want to get good gains that make me look ripped but gains I can hold on to, not just while I am on the juice!

I will be taking Sus250 @ 250mg (1amp) every Monday and Friday for 12 weeks.

Then wait 18 days from my last jab and start PCT:

Clomid - 100/100/50/50
Nolva - 40/40/20/20

Have tried to get some HCG but can not....Also I wanted Arimidex on hand to run @ .25 EOD for the 12 weeks but that is proving hard to buy aswel.

I know my diet is key to everything...

Just wanted to run 6 week Anavar @ 50mg ED for last 6 weeks...But do you think the Stanozolo will do a good job or have same affects?

Cheers

whats your b/f ?

[meat&2veg]

whats your b/f ?

Well that is a question! Again I live in Thailand and if you have ever been you will know that they aint the sharpest tools in the box and im in BKK where they do not even bother to try and speak English and help...But I have used one of those hand-held things after typing in my height and weight and it came back:
17.7% I dont know if that is accurate???

I am 32yrs old 72.2kg and 170cm in height.

[meat&2veg]

If you are worried about being bloated or having water retention Stanozolo/Winstrol will do a way better job than Anavar. You'd want to run it around week 8-12. That way you will probably have to worry about bloating for a short period of time.

Maybe try finding some liv52, milk thistle, or some bile supplements to take while taking the orals if you are worried about the toxicity.

So run it for 4 weeks at end of cycle...How much would you say?
I can buy the Azolol Stan @ 400tabs x 5mg a bottle.

I have head about Liv52 and milk thistle, so would defo run either of them as I dont wanna do my Liver in!

Thanks again.

[Brodon]

So run it for 4 weeks at end of cycle...How much would you say?
I can buy the Azolol Stan @ 400tabs x 5mg a bottle.

I have head about Liv52 and milk thistle, so would defo run either of them as I dont wanna do my Liver in!

Thanks again.

50 to 100mg/day

[meat&2veg]

Ok cool...

How about my PCT?

As I said I have tried to get some HCG but can not find any, is this going to be a PROBLEM or is Clomid & Nolva going to be fine???....Also I wanted Arimidex on hand to run @ .25 EOD for the 12 weeks if I can not get the Arimidex should I run Nolva throughout the 12 weeks and in PCT...If so how much and when???

[lovbyts]

No do not run the Nolva on cycle or the Arimidex unless you have gyno issues start.

You original Nolv, clomid for PCT is fine.

I have found in Thailand most speak English fine it's just IF they want to help you or not. Im sure you know a little Thai. Start out always speaking Thai, being polite and dont forget the Krup at the end of your sentence. I find they are much more helpful after this.

[meat&2veg]

No do not run the Nolva on cycle or the Arimidex unless you have gyno issues start.

You original Nolv, clomid for PCT is fine.

I have found in Thailand most speak English fine it's just IF they want to help you or not. Im sure you know a little Thai. Start out always speaking Thai, being polite and dont forget the Krup at the end of your sentence. I find they are much more helpful after this.

I know a few little Thais! (Small and sexy) lol...

Thanks for your help with the PCT... I do know a little bit of how to speak Thai but thats not how to ask for roids, but I am always polite.

[lovbyts]

I know a few little Thais! (Small and sexy) lol...

Thanks for your help with the PCT... I do know a little bit of how to speak Thai but thats not how to ask for roids, but I am always polite.

What I mean is when you great the Pharmacist be polite = (khrap)

Hello = sa wat dee khrap
How are you? = sa baai dee mai khrap

You can also go to Pattaya or Jomtien, they are more available there and more use to tourist/non Thai asking. Walking street has a few good pharmacies and of course a lot of other fun things to do.

[meat&2veg]

What I mean is when you great the Pharmacist be polite = (khrap)

Hello = sa wat dee khrap
How are you? = sa baai dee mai khrap

You can also go to Pattaya or Jomtien, they are more available there and more use to tourist/non Thai asking. Walking street has a few good pharmacies and of course a lot of other fun things to do.

Oh yeah baby, you know that...I was living in Jomtien for about a year and did find a good pharmacy...Moved to BKK 16 months ago and had a look around...Found 1 good pharmacy and the others said Pattaya, so I guess its an excuse for a weekend trip!!!

[lovbyts]

A bad excuse is better than no excuse and it's always easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

I am thinking of taking up golf for the sole reason to eventually have an excuse (if I need one) go to Pattaya again.

After my first trip October of 07 my next trip was December 07, April 08, June 08. LOL December 09 I started all over again but with Philippines. Not much AAS available in Philippines unless you know the right people. Also you dont see any BIG guys there. I was much bigger than everyone I saw. I really dont think I saw/meet anyone bigger than me (in better shape) and Im not huge by any means. Great ego booster. The women love it there even more than the Thai girls.

[meat&2veg]

A bad excuse is better than no excuse and it's always easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

I am thinking of taking up golf for the sole reason to eventually have an excuse (if I need one) go to Pattaya again.

After my first trip October of 07 my next trip was December 07, April 08, June 08. LOL December 09 I started all over again but with Philippines. Not much AAS available in Philippines unless you know the right people. Also you dont see any BIG guys there. I was much bigger than everyone I saw. I really dont think I saw/meet anyone bigger than me (in better shape) and Im not huge by any means. Great ego booster. The women love it there even more than the Thai girls.

A bad excuse is better than no excuse and it's always easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

Quality! I needed that...Your right! I live with my bird and she works weekends and I have been wanting to slip away for the last few weeks...

Sounds like your missing the place, whats happened? you married now?
Ive not been Philippines yet but its on my buckett list!!!

[meat&2veg]

Guys I am going to take 60mg of Stanozolol ED...How would you recommend I take this dose?
They are oral and in 5mg per pill.

Should I take 20mg with breakfast about 9am, 20mg after I train with my lunch about 2pm and 20mg with my food at about 7pm???

[lovbyts]

A bad excuse is better than no excuse and it's always easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

Quality! I needed that...Your right! I live with my bird and she works weekends and I have been wanting to slip away for the last few weeks...

Sounds like your missing the place, whats happened? you married now?
Ive not been Philippines yet but its on my buckett list!!!

I think I will always miss the place even as Im getting on the airplane to leave after the next trip. Ill be back. I still have a few places/people to do on my bucket list also.

Yeah after my first trip I have never felt so compelled to stay or go back to anyplace like Thailand. Philippines I feel very much at home. I like the people, culture but Thailand is great fun/party place.

Yes splitting it up 3x a day would probably be your best option as you suggested.

[meat&2veg]

I think I will always miss the place even as Im getting on the airplane to leave after the next trip. Ill be back. I still have a few places/people to do on my bucket list also.

Yeah after my first trip I have never felt so compelled to stay or go back to anyplace like Thailand. Philippines I feel very much at home. I like the people, culture but Thailand is great fun/party place.

Yes splitting it up 3x a day would probably be your best option as you suggested.

Yeah man I was coming and going every 4-6 months for the last 5yrs then moved here...Its class! Love it!
Still need to travel around a bit into Vietnam, Cambodia and over to Philippines.

Thanks for the advice...1 more question:
I keep on reading different things about HCG.
I have tried to get some but so far no joy but will go see my doctor.
If I get some should I take 500iu every week from the 1st Sus jab until 4 days before PCT starts but take 1500iu's for each of the last 2 shots???

[lovbyts]

Yeah man I was coming and going every 4-6 months for the last 5yrs then moved here...Its class! Love it!
Still need to travel around a bit into Vietnam, Cambodia and over to Philippines.

Thanks for the advice...1 more question:
I keep on reading different things about HCG.
I have tried to get some but so far no joy but will go see my doctor.
If I get some should I take 500iu every week from the 1st Sus jab until 4 days before PCT starts but take 1500iu's for each of the last 2 shots???

I have not used it yet. HCG I may be trying it soon also but what I read it good to use HCG 125-250ius 2-3 times weekly. Here is one of the threads.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...&highlight=HCG

[meat&2veg]

I have not used it yet. HCG I may be trying it soon also but what I read it good to use HCG 125-250ius 2-3 times weekly. Here is one of the threads.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...&highlight=HCG

Sweet! Thanks again pal, I will read that...Have seen it before but read so much stuff since...Just frys ya head!