How screwed am I? :(

[lovbyts]

Here is the deal as short and sweet as I can make it.

Im on HRT, 175 mg (.75ml) week.
I did my last blood work 3 weeks ago. I figured levels would be normal since I have been only running HRT levels and a little below to look good for test. I forgot I was taking Proviron.
My test levels came back a little elevated, 850.
My doc was a little concerned about. I blamed it on taking unleashed which is an OTC equivalent to proviron.
He was more concerned that my Ferritin levels had dropped from a year ago of 190, 6 months ago at 90 and now at 33. He says this is due to test spiking. Also my Hemoglobin is high, it was around 17+. tops should be 16.7 I gave blood and had my blood tested 2 weeks later. He said it should have come down considerable but didnt want me to give more because of my Ferritin levels where low.

He agreed to let my try my HRT at 2x a week to see if the Ferritin will level off and go up. No problem

Problem. I started cycle just after the blood test 3 weeks ago running 500 mg test and 600 deca + the proviron.

I figured he would want me to re test in a few months since I just got this done. He wanted me to inject today since it was time in office. No problem, I injected 3.5 mg of test e. Then he sprung it on me. He wants to check my free test TOMORROW!!!!

OK my last shot was 3.5 days ago of a little over 1ml test = 250 and also 300 of Deca and also the proviron daily 25mg 2x day.

What will my free test levels look like tomorrow???? I tried to delay it a week but no go. I cam MAYBE blame in on the Unleashed still in my system until it goes back down to normal unless I'm around 2000.

What do you think??? How screwed am I? Obviously it's the end of this cycle after only 3 weeks. What a waste.

[Immortal Soldier]

You screwed the pooch on this one

[glover]

Don't go to your appointment!

[Twist]

Sorry to hear about this. keep us updated

[marcus300]

Think you better confess, can't see how your going to get out of this one.

[UncleD]

Think you better confess, can't see how your going to get out of this one.

yea if you dodge the test you might get droped all together..if you come clean you atleast have a chance.. hope you have a good relationship with your doc

[ninesecz]

I think I am going to be in the same boat. I went last wek to the doctor and after the doc seeing my level were really low she still did not want to raise my levels to 200mg a week from 100mg a week. wants to see me in a month! I can not see any reason to have to go back nect month except she is going to want to get blood work done again! I am taking 500mg a week plus anadrol. If she does blood work i am just going to tell her Took a bunch of pro hormones and some test booster

[joeb23]

come down with the flu that would delay it a couple of days if not a week

[Mooseman33]

crash ur car into a tree...fall off a roof...u have to create an injury that is documented..

ur going to have to get creative bro....

[Dont wanna be old]

I say spill the beans , The reason you need hrt is your occasionally trying your boundaries !
You thought more was better ? You don't wanna get old ? You like feeling in control of yourself and emotions when testosterone is high ? When you are not on hrt life sucks and so on .
People go to doctors and explain std's . They are paid professional and you are a customer .
I doubt you can shock him . He may explain he only prescribes hrt for health reasons and not for bodybuilding hobbies , Say ok , It was a mistake and gimmee my script .

Just a few ideas , good luck

[oakdad]

How about a meeting with your boss, or a mishap at work requiring you to stay so it could ship, or a kid / wife got sick and it required you to stay there.

[grinchinit]

i feel dumb asking this...you guys get scrips for ur aas?

[Immortal Soldier]

i feel dumb asking this...you guys get scrips for ur aas?

If you have low hormonal levels yes (or your over 40) you can be put on synthetic testosterone for the rest of your life. It's a pain in the ass IMO since you have to go in for bloodwork alot in the beginning and throughout the use (every 3 or 6 months) which intervenes with planning cycles.

[TRT,MAN]

Don't go to your appointment!

totaly agree dont show up. reschedule later, tell some shit came up. their not gonna tell you fvcked up, im done with you lol.

[grinchinit]

If you have low hormonal levels yes (or your over 40) you can be put on synthetic testosterone for the rest of your life. It's a pain in the ass IMO since you have to go in for bloodwork alot in the beginning and throughout the use (every 3 or 6 months) which intervenes with planning cycles.

learn somethin new every day. soo synthetic test cannot be healthy right?


thanks for info btw

[TRT,MAN]

^^^^^^ what the hell?

[Tjohn6231]

I say spill the beans , The reason you need hrt is your occasionally trying your boundaries !
You thought more was better ? You don't wanna get old ? You like feeling in control of yourself and emotions when testosterone is high ? When you are not on hrt life sucks and so on .
People go to doctors and explain std's . They are paid professional and you are a customer .
I doubt you can shock him . He may explain he only prescribes hrt for health reasons and not for bodybuilding hobbies , Say ok , It was a mistake and gimmee my script .

Just a few ideas , good luck

X2....I have a good relationship with my doc. I hope that this never happens to me, but if it does, I would come clean (partially). You could tell him that you were doing some research, and testing on your own with different amounts per week or something. Tell him that your sex drive was still very low, and that your wife thinks your cheating since you never ask for sex or some BS. Tell him that you want your marriage to work.
Im throwing out ideas. Some might be far fetched, but it might work.
What would happen if you cancelled the appt? You could tell him that you had to work.

[Immortal Soldier]

learn somethin new every day. soo synthetic test cannot be healthy right?


thanks for info btw

Why would it not be healthy? It's testosterone the same your body makes except it is made in a lab and not in the human body (hence the term synthetic). HRT is made for those who's body don't produce enough testosterone for daily function, however it has picked up ranks by those in the steroid community for an alternative to PCT'ing (just stay on test for the rest of your life) as well as the anti-aging community (40 year old guys who want to feel 17 again).

[grinchinit]

Why would it not be healthy? It's testosterone the same your body makes except it is made in a lab and not in the human body (hence the term synthetic). HRT is made for those who's body don't produce enough testosterone for daily function, however it has picked up ranks by those in the steroid community for an alternative to PCT'ing (just stay on test for the rest of your life) as well as the anti-aging community (40 year old guys who want to feel 17 again).

i see. it just seems to me that HRT would shut down natural test forever and i cant see why anyone would want that. maybe its just because im not 40 yet lol maybe then i will understand

[Immortal Soldier]

i see. it just seems to me that HRT would shut down natural test forever and i cant see why anyone would want that. maybe its just because im not 40 yet lol maybe then i will understand

Yes it does shut down natural test forever, but if you don't really have natural test in your body (or very low amounts) you aren't going to miss the fact you are being shut down forever. It's either live your life with low hormonal levels or live your life like a normal person. And those who go on it at early ages 30+, thats a choice they make.

I will probably be the youngest on this board to have to go on it, if I cannot force myself to stop cruising (same thing as TRT but I don't go to a doctor, just get my gear the ol fashion way)

[lovbyts]

Im sure I could come up with an excuse easily enough but the will only postpone it a week at the most. I can also just blame in on the test booster since in office he was talking about another guy taking something similare, Generic OTC that gave high test levels but also VERY high liver enzyme levels.

I could just play it off on that, get this done with and wait until he is satified with my normal levels again before playing. I figure it only puts me out maybe a month and about 3 blood test.

[RaZZZr]

I don't see what the big deal is, just be honest with your doc, it's called patient/client confidentiality.

It's not like he can to stop you from taking it, so he will more than likely help you. For example I'm open with my doc and he just makes sure all my levels are normal etc and helps me along. My brother takes all kinds of recreational drugs and he tells his doc and there's never been an issue, only advice. They only want to make sure you are ok.

If worst comes to worst then get a new doctor. Don't be so scared when you have nothing to worry about. ;-)

Remember that you are a paying client and the doctor needs to be professional, you'll be very suprised to learn what doctors have to deal with on a daily basis.

Go to the appointment and be honest, you'll see it won't be as bad as you think.

[Dukkit]

I don't see what the big deal is, just be honest with your doc, it's called patient/client confidentiality.

It's not like he can to stop you from taking it, so he will more than likely help you. For example I'm open with my doc and he just makes sure all my levels are normal etc and helps me along. My brother takes all kinds of recreational drugs and he tells his doc and there's never been an issue, only advice. They only want to make sure you are ok.

If worst comes to worst then get a new doctor. Don't be so scared when you have nothing to worry about. ;-)

Remember that you are a paying client and the doctor needs to be professional, you'll be very suprised to learn what doctors have to deal with on a daily basis.

Go to the appointment and be honest, you'll see it won't be as bad as you think.

i totally agree

talk to him. looks like your best option is to be up front with him

i am open with my doc. she doesnt approve and she barely knows anything about AAS (not nearly as much as i do. ) but she watches my levels and is cool about it.

[Mooseman33]

problem comes with insurance. doctor can be cool as hell, but insurance companies are not...

[lovbyts]

problem comes with insurance. doctor can be cool as hell, but insurance companies are not...

VERY true. He also wants to start writing a contract with EVERYONE to sign that they will not take anything extra without discussing it with him first.

I'm going to look for a closer/differnt doc soon but for now I think I may just come up with an excuse to skip it until next week and hope my levels are back down by then. Ill just stop EVERYTHING until then and hope the deca is out of partially out of my system by then also. i can still blame it on the test boosters if it's a little high

[lovbyts]

I should know my test results soon. I was able to push out my blood work for 1 week from when he wanted it. last injections was 1 week ago, 90 mg test, 11 days ago 300 mg test, 300 mg deca.
It will be interesting to see what the test levels come back.....

[Papa Smurf]

Hey Bro! Look at you script. How long is it good for? I dont worry about follow up visits if I got a 6 month script in my hand.
Example:
My script has 3 more refills before 11/09/09. Also nice is it gives the date when your insurance will pay for it again.

So I will be off cycle 2 months and back on TRT before November. That will be my next appointment for bloodwork and get script refilled. You must be in the early stages of TRT. Takes time, but you will learn the system.

[jimmy79]

lovbyts, how did this play out for you? What was your fee test levels ? :-)

[BrysZ]

To be honest if that is your pic in your avatar...If you confessed I don't think your doctor will be very suprised....

[NMacFar]

Is your health insurance paying for your HRT? I'm not even sure if they would, but if they aren't, DON'T GO! Or say you are traveling for 2 weeks for work, vacation, etc. Tell your doc you'll reschedule as soon as you're back in town. That would buy you 3 weeks by the time you cal lthe office and your appointment is made.

[Far from massive]

I am certainly no expert, but in my experience with doctors once you admit to playing doctors aid and coprescribing your own (illeagal no less) meds on top of what they give you they are very rarely understanding. I would have a wife/friend whomever call the docs office and say you have been incarcerated and will no longer be his patient. That way he would have to close out your chart with a notation of slightly unusual bloodwork, thats a lot better than having underground steroid usage on the chart IMHO.

[Johnyonemove]

I doubt you can shock him . He may explain he only prescribes hrt for health reasons and not for bodybuilding hobbies , Say ok , It was a mistake and gimmee my script .

Just a few ideas , good luck

+1 couldn't say it any better...