closest to the real thing?

[lost707]

I was just wondering what is the best thing to take that is the closest to the real thing (steroids). A stack or just one particular thing. Iam currently taking deca 200,d0anabol 25, tren 75 and putuitary growth hormone along with protein, bcaa, arganine, glutamine and creatine. I just started with the anabolics and am seeing gains but not like I thought, my gains are staying about the same I dont really see much difference. I have only been on the anabolics for 3 weeks though so maybe I just need to give them more time.

[Ernst]

Closest to the real thing? I'm confused...

You know you are taking supplements and not real steroids, yeah?

And you want to know what supplements or combination of supplements would get you results closest to taking real steroids?

Am I following this correctly?

[lost707]

Yes I know that, but there are some things out there that will give you massive gains. About 7 years ago I used to take this stuff I dont remember what it was called my friend gave it to me, it wasn't illegal and I was having huge gains.
I am basically looking for what people think is the best thing next to actual real steroids.

[RaZr]

Food and sleep

[ufc8581]

a good diet and good workout routine!! protien creatine and some aminos

[Ernst]

Well there probably are (and definitely were) pro-hormones out there that were more or less "real" steroids. 7 years ago there was some stuff legal that sure as hell isn't now.

Are you looking for pro-hormones (aka legal steroids), or just supplements?

I tried a lot of supplements and crap over the years before getting to real AAS. The only supps I'd still take are basically just creatine, fish oil, and protein/amino acids. I never really found any magic supplement that delivered for the money.

[lost707]

Aas?

[lost707]

Know anything about Androstenedione??

[Ernst]

Aas?

Anabolic Androgenic Steroids

[Ernst]

Know anything about Androstenedione??

That would be considered a pro-hormone. I honestly don't know much about pro-hormones.

[lost707]

http://www.legalsteroids.com/anadrol.html
Check this out and tell me what you think?

[Bonaparte]

Can't post links to competitors/sources here.
And that's juts more of the same crap.

[Far from massive]

Do lots of reading, start in the diet section.

Unless your nutrition is spot on and you are getting the right amount of sleep there is little point in taking the risk of using either AAS or Pro-hormones and really as far as that goes if you are going to take the risk of pro-hormones you may as well just use AAS as the risks with AAS are completely documented so you can learn what they are and how to deal with them.

(What I think you have been taking, vitamins and oils pretending to be steroids is just freaking rediculous)

Also from my brief time here (on this site) 90% of people posting about their intake of food and supplements are way too focused on supplements. Whole foods, good clean nutrition taken 6-8 times per day is the key to clean growth. While a protein and carb shake after a work out is an easy way to get protein and carbs quickly after a workout, drinking 3-4 shakes a day is not a good thing. Unless you have enough money to easily afford to eat at least 1.5gms of clean protein per lb of body wieght per day, other than PWO shake and vitamins, fish oil don't waste your money on supplements thinking they will do what the label says.

PS The if anyone is wondering why I would include whey/carbo PWO shake if you were short on funds, whey is actually pretty cheap protein gm for gm.

FFM