Starting cycle while injured - advice needed

[zephyr71]

Hi guys,

I'm 39yo, 6' tall, currently 81kg and around 11% bodyfat. My training is around basic strength and being able to run in a competitive sport (australian football - amateur level).

I completed my first steroid cycle 8 weeks ago. Done under medical supervision (I have diagnosed low testosterone levels), it was a basic 1ml vial of Sustanon 250 on a weekly basis for 12 weeks. Added some Clen during the last part of it. Overall, i'm very happy with the results. Bodyweight is down by 8kg, but bodyfat is down from 18% to 11% - so some nice modest gains.

Right about now was the time scheduled for starting a cycle. Because I'm mid-season with football, it was never planned to be a bulking cycle, more a cutting/maintenance cycle.

But two weeks ago I tore a tendon in my left hand, and have had it surgically repaired. I cannot use the hand at all for another 6 weeks, so my weights program is significantly reduced. Can still run though (my running is more sprint focussed than distance).

Saw the doc tonight and he was happy to restart me on the Sustanon 250, again at 1 dose a week. My intention of this cycle is more about preventing atrophy of my current muscle than making major gains (though I might be able to do some good leg work).

I also have access to larger volumes of Sustanon, plus Deca, Anavar, Equipoise and Clenbuterol. The Clen I will cycle as per normal to keep the bodyfat off.

But what should my cycle be... should I keep it simple to start with, using just the Sust? Or would adding the others in be useful. Keep in mind that in 4-6 weeks I will have use of my hand again and will be hitting the gym hard for the remainder of the cycle.

Any thoughts what is best for me. Perhaps just the Sustanon until the hand comes good, then add the Deca for the remainder of the cycle? Keep in mind that I want to be able to continue my running training during this, and don't want to bloat too much.

(The cycle after this one will be after the season ends, and will be a bulking cycle)

[Turkish Juicer]

If you go over your current dosage of Sustanon and/or add a secondary aromatizing AAS to your cycle, you will need to come up with a new design of AAS cycle that includes an AI and a proper PCT. It is not a matter of adding more gear to your cycle, it is rather about being fully informed as to how to have control over your cycle.

Your chances of re-injuring the tendon on your left hand while on a second and more aggressive AAS cycle are higher as opposed to not cycling at all. AAS cycles result in an increase of muscle power disproportionate to tendon strength (and in a very short period of time), steroids in effect leave the tendons as they are (without improvement) and lead to injuries. Just be aware that tendon injuries are among the most common injuries athletes suffer from during AAS cycles. I am sure there are many vets here that will approve this from experience. However, this does not mean that you will suffer from a tendon injuiry everytime you cycle and train, there are of course many other variables in this equation such as how hard and intensely you train, whether you properly warm up before training, how strong your tendons are to begin with and so forth.

In the last result, you can run a 12 week Sustanon 250 cycle with an injection protocol of twice a week. An injection protocol of 500 mg of aromatizing steroid a week brings about the need of employing an AI for your cycle for the mere sake of controlling otherwise elevated estrogen levels, Arimidex 0.5 gr EOD will do it for you. However, you will also need to come up with a solid PCT after this cycle that should involve about 3 different compounds for starting HTPA recovery. Have you done a detailed research about all of this stuff before?

[zephyr71]

Thanks TJ. You remind me that I didn't mention my PCT and anti-estrogen regime.

As my use is monitored by a doctor, he runs blood tests to see where I am with estrogen levels. At the end of the last cycle, he ran me on HCG alone (given that it was a mild 250mg per week Sustanon cycle). This is his preferred approach.

But I have a supply of Arimidex and will add that in as you suggest. Also, I use Erase by PES, (but I'm yet to see any conclusive evidence to whether it's a valuable anti-estrogen substance).

I take your point about the AAS strengthening the muscles thus putting extra stress on tendons. I think for that reason, I'll stick to a low dose of Sustanon whilst my hand is in the cast, for primary reason of limiting muscle atrophy. By the time the cast comes off the tendon should be at full strength again, I might up the Sustanon and maybe add Deca for the remaining half of the cycle.

[dec11]

common sense mate, if you are injured then heal your injury

[dec11]

Hi guys,

I'm 39yo, 6' tall, currently 81kg and around 11% bodyfat. My training is around basic strength and being able to run in a competitive sport (australian football - amateur level).

I completed my first steroid cycle 8 weeks ago. Done under medical supervision (I have diagnosed low testosterone levels), it was a basic 1ml vial of Sustanon 250 on a weekly basis for 12 weeks. Added some Clen during the last part of it. Overall, i'm very happy with the results. Bodyweight is down by 8kg, but bodyfat is down from 18% to 11% - so some nice modest gains.

Right about now was the time scheduled for starting a cycle. Because I'm mid-season with football, it was never planned to be a bulking cycle, more a cutting/maintenance cycle.

But two weeks ago I tore a tendon in my left hand, and have had it surgically repaired. I cannot use the hand at all for another 6 weeks, so my weights program is significantly reduced. Can still run though (my running is more sprint focussed than distance).

Saw the doc tonight and he was happy to restart me on the Sustanon 250, again at 1 dose a week. My intention of this cycle is more about preventing atrophy of my current muscle than making major gains (though I might be able to do some good leg work).

I also have access to larger volumes of Sustanon, plus Deca, Anavar, Equipoise and Clenbuterol. The Clen I will cycle as per normal to keep the bodyfat off.

But what should my cycle be... should I keep it simple to start with, using just the Sust? Or would adding the others in be useful. Keep in mind that in 4-6 weeks I will have use of my hand again and will be hitting the gym hard for the remainder of the cycle.

Any thoughts what is best for me. Perhaps just the Sustanon until the hand comes good, then add the Deca for the remainder of the cycle? Keep in mind that I want to be able to continue my running training during this, and don't want to bloat too much.

(The cycle after this one will be after the season ends, and will be a bulking cycle)

what? why would you start another so soon? you need to recover, you cant just keep running cycle after cycle mate. time on +pct = time off.
back to the drawing board, you dont know what your doing

[Far from massive]

This whole concept of being low on testosterone and running medically supervised cycles kinda throws me...If you are low on test it would seem that the likelyhood of worsening the situation by running cycles of test would be pretty great even with a good PCT and proper time off. Without a good PCT and proper time off its pretty much guaranteed.

I know that after just one cycle due to the PCT you will often see increased test values
but.. from what I have seen after the first cycle the chance of worsening the low test score gets worse and worse? Am I wrong about this or does it become less likely to see a full recovery when you have already dimenished test values and continue to run cycles?

[Turkish Juicer]

This whole concept of being low on testosterone and running medically supervised cycles kinda throws me...If you are low on test it would seem that the likelyhood of worsening the situation by running cycles of test would be pretty great even with a good PCT and proper time off. Without a good PCT and proper time off its pretty much guaranteed.

I know that after just one cycle due to the PCT you will often see increased test values
but.. from what I have seen after the first cycle the chance of worsening the low test score gets worse and worse? Am I wrong about this or does it become less likely to see a full recovery when you have already dimenished test values and continue to run cycles?

He should have performed a solid PCT after his cycle no matter what. I think you are right, someone with low test. levels to begin with should be much more careful about running an intelligently designed PCT after a cycle and get blood work done to see how he is doing at the moment before starting another cycle.