Started Testosterone Repla***ent Therapy

[MickeyKnox]

just a straight question.

i started trt today @200mg bi weekly of Depot Testosterone Cyprionate.

im unable to find info on this so i'm not certain whether or not i can include 250mg of Test E 3.5 days later to supplement total weekly test.

stats, pct and diet check out.

thanks.

[bullshark99]

MK, think you need to be a litle more clear on what you are asking???? You are looking to supplement 250mg of T enthanate every 3.5 days on top of 200 Cyp Biweekly, Really???

[pugster]

i think you need to look for Testosterone Cypionate -you spelled it wrong , theres plenty info out there for it, as for what you are asking thats not hrt its a cycle , read the stickys

[MickeyKnox]

yes. every two weeks i get a shot of 200mgs of Depot Test Cyp. i want to know if anyone has supplemented Depot Test Cyp (long lasting test) with another test ie..Enth.

week 1 - 200mg Depot test Cyp + 250 Test E.

week 2 - 250x2 @3.5 days

week 3 - 200mg Depot test Cyp + 250 Test E.

repeat..

[MickeyKnox]

i think you need to look for Testosterone Cypionate -you spelled it wrong , theres plenty info out there for it, as for what you are asking thats not hrt its a cycle , read the stickys

*sigh..no...i DIDN'T spell it wrong. and i HAVE read the stickies. and yes i DID get a shot from my family physician and WILL continue every two weeks with Depot Testosterone Cyprionate

but thanks for the tip..

[pugster]

mmm i'll admit im confused , if you want a longer ester why not undecanoate or different release a mixed one like sust , either way, what you want to do goes over any hrt protocol ive seen here . tho i'll admit im still learning

[MickeyKnox]

mmm i'll admit im confused , if you want a longer ester why not undecanoate or different release a mixed one like sust , either way, what you want to do goes over any hrt protocol ive seen here . tho i'll admit im still learning how to read

[yannick35]

THis is not TRT it look a lot like a cycle, TRT is usually between 80-150mg per week. Some go to 200mg i did and it was too high

[MickeyKnox]

post #4 is an example of how i want to supplement my trt of 200mg every second week . it's not what i am currently on. why is that so confusing?

i am currently on trt @200mg EOW (every other week) of Depot Test Cyp. i want to supplement my trt with additional 250 test e during inject weeks, and 500mg test e 2xwk on non inject weeks.

my question is can i do this?

[pugster]

i read fine , look to the right you will see im in the UK , we are communicating in English.

week 1 - 200mg Depot test Cyp + 250 Test E. (so 450mg test in one week , way above any trt protocol ive seen)

week 2 - 250x2 @3.5 days (i'll admit im lost wtf this is supp to be or mean ,plz explain )

week 3 - 200mg Depot test Cyp + 250 Test E. (repeat of week 1)


*sure you can do it, tho its not a trt protocol

[MickeyKnox]

never mind.

[FONZY007]

never mind.

Most ppl while on trt would stop there trt doses and do a cycle after cycle is done go back to you trt amount

[MickeyKnox]

Most ppl while on trt would stop there trt doses and do a cycle after cycle is done go back to you trt amount

i totally agree with you bro, but sadly i cannot stop trt - i just started and i had to give up my first born to get on this program. i know sad uh? but yes, the timing was bad i agree. but i'm stuck with this situation. don't get me wrong, i'm VERY happy to finally be on a decent trt program. however it doesn't coincide with my pre planned aas cycle.

so i was wondering if i could supplement my trt dose with additional test enth while on trt to complete a cycle? example of cycle is post#4...with pct covered of course.

[SEOINAGE]

Yes you can do it, stop being an ass about it because no one understands what the **** you are trying to do. Be more specific next time, it wasn't until this last post i got ya. And you don't need PCT, can go right back to your trt dose, but how are you going to deal with the issue of the doctor wanting to see blood work in order to adjust dose and you are way over it? Usually people don't increase their dose unless there is a long time between blood work and they have already ironed out the right amount for a trt dose to keep them where they need to be. You may not need PCT but you will need AI at those high doses.

[MickeyKnox]

thought that was clear when i stated my pct was in check. bloods are required in wk11 and i haven't ironed that out yet. so perhaps an oral with trt dose - light cyle..

[Mario L]

You won't need pct. Your on trt and will be going back to your normal trt dose after your blast(cycle).

[kelkel]

MK I'm curious what your stats and goals are? If you just started trt why the rush to blast so soon? Seoinage makes some good points directly above. You don't know where your going to land level wise with just the trt dose as yet. Unless your on a self-initiated protocol I'd be pretty cautious....

[MickeyKnox]

46
6ft
200
15%

Kelkel,

put on some weight/gain strength - no pipe dreams. keep half or more.

just researching an idea at the moment as i wasn't expecting the trt to come through this fast.

protocol is physician directed. is it possible to do a short blast - example: d-bol wk 1-4 test cyp 200 eow. test enth to fill in the gaps to total 450-500/wk for 8wks? yes i realize this is short and test e needs time to spool up an unwind but i'm trying to figure a cycle. OR stay on trt protocols and run d-bol for 4 wks?

[FONZY007]

i totally agree with you bro, but sadly i cannot stop trt - i just started and i had to give up my first born to get on this program. i know sad uh? but yes, the timing was bad i agree. but i'm stuck with this situation. don't get me wrong, i'm VERY happy to finally be on a decent trt program. however it doesn't coincide with my pre planned aas cycle.

so i was wondering if i could supplement my trt dose with additional test enth while on trt to complete a cycle? example of cycle is post#4...with pct covered of course.

Mickey you can stop and start your AAS cycle it won't hurt you, than about two weeks later after last pin start your trt.. See I give my self the shots, so no harm no foul.. Is your doctor giving you your shots? I guess it can work as you state, be firm with your doctor and tell him you would like to do injections at home...

Also I was on trt for 6-8 months than ingot married and wife and I wanted a baby so I got off did a pct and the next month she was pregnant, i waited till she was in her second trimester before I jumped back on my trt protocol...

[MickeyKnox]

Mickey you can stop and start your AAS cycle it won't hurt you, than about two weeks later after last pin start your trt.. See I give my self the shots, so no harm no foul.. Is your doctor giving you your shots? I guess it can work as you state, be firm with your doctor and tell him you would like to do injections at home...

Also I was on trt for 6-8 months than ingot married and wife and I wanted a baby so I got off did a pct and the next month she was pregnant, i waited till she was in her second trimester before I jumped back on my trt protocol...

doc is giving me shots - have to go to office.

so if i understand this correctly can i run the short cycle as i explained earlier? d-bol wk 1-4 test cyp 200 eow. test enth to fill in the gaps to total 450-500/wk for 8wks? bloods will be required wk 11.

[FONZY007]

doc is giving me shots - have to go to office.

so if i understand this correctly can i run the short cycle as i explained earlier? d-bol wk 1-4 test cyp 200 eow. test enth to fill in the gaps to total 450-500/wk for 8wks? bloods will be required wk 11.

What are you going to do when your bw are saying that you did something? Cuz your liver enzymes will be elevated still I know mine are for like 3 months after even while taking liv52 and drinking a lot of water

[MickeyKnox]

alright that's what i was looking for. i was trying to determine if my bloods would still be elevated enough to reveal additional compounds 3 wks later.

i'll continue with the d-bol and maintain regular trt dosing until bloods. i' should be able to benefit some strength gains from the d-bol and maintain 200eow of Depot test Cyp.

[kelkel]

MK, what I would do is call the doc and try to up the appointment to maybe 4-6 weeks from now. You really should not wait as long as he's wanting you to anyway. Find out where you level out with trt, adjust if necessary. Then if your going to blast you may be good to go for 6 months or so untill your next appt. Just a thought! Good luck with what you choose and be careful.

[MickeyKnox]

doc is NOT trt friendly. anything i do now to change course and he will drop me like a hot potato. i'll simply run the dbol and maintain trt. then get bloods and take it from there.

thanks for all your help and suggestions, appreciate it. it's definitely help decide.

[Vettester]

Yeah, I think I'd find a better stack on HRT than Dbol. ALT & AST will shoot up, BP will shoot up, and the doctor is going to think you've been drinking a pint of whiskey every day. I'd personally add some deca to compliment the HRT before going to a harsh oral like that, but that's just my .02

[JD250]

^^ x2

[FONZY007]

Yeah, I think I'd find a better stack on HRT than Dbol. ALT & AST will shoot up, BP will shoot up, and the doctor is going to think you've been drinking a pint of whiskey every day. I'd personally add some deca to compliment the HRT before going to a harsh oral like that, but that's just my .02

Maybe var, or tbol?

[Vettester]

Maybe var, or tbol?

Even anavar can take its toll on liver stress and BP, as many of us here can attest, and anavar is one of the so called "liver friendly" orals. Used to be available in liquid form at the clinic, but no more. But YES, anavar would IMO would be much better.

[MickeyKnox]

Yeah, I think I'd find a better stack on HRT than Dbol. ALT & AST will shoot up, BP will shoot up, and the doctor is going to think you've been drinking a pint of whiskey every day. I'd personally add some deca to compliment the HRT before going to a harsh oral like that, but that's just my .02

is this being suggested and recommended because of my low dose of test? iow, if i were to maintain 500mg/wk test (which is not an option) then dbol would not be an issue? just trying to understand the theory. i fully understand dbol without a test base is horrible. so i assume my low trt test base is not enough, correct?

again, thanks for the comments.

[Vettester]

is this being suggested and recommended because of my low dose of test? iow, if i were to maintain 500mg/wk test (which is not an option) then dbol would not be an issue? just trying to understand the theory. i fully understand dbol without a test base is horrible. so i assume my low trt test base is not enough, correct?

again, thanks for the comments.

Mickey, my rationale isn't derived due to the low test base, just more so because of the type of compound you're dealing with. I've never taken Dbol, so I can't say by experience, but from what I've read, and read, ... it's a good steroid to 'kick start' a cycle until the testosterone kicks in. Could be wrong, so any cycling experts can correct me. Additionally, I know it will be highly hepatotoxic, and won't be very friendly to the average TRT protocol. Deca on the other hand won't have the negative liver issues, and is a great stack if there ever was one for TRT.