1st cyclw in 3 yrs brush up my skills

[cebby1985]

Background- been lifting for the past 6 yrs. Mist have been heavy as I've competed in powerlifting. I really half assed it for about a yr and got totally to fat. Since Sept I've dropped from 320 to current weight of 267. Ive made the mistake of using as young as 21 up to 23. I have about 5 good cycles under my belt all for strength or bulking. This is my first cut cycle.

State-of-the-art 26yrs old, 6'1", 267lbs. Estimated bf% at 17-18% link to pic below

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Plan- diet to 13-15% bf it approx 255lbs. This should take me 6 wks. Then start my cut mid April. I have family coming hone that hasn't seen me since I post 53lbs and I'm using that date mid June as where I want to end my cycle. I'm not looking to be in show shape but would like to be 260lbs at no higher than 13% I feel that maintaing a bf of 13% and gaining 5lbs over 8 wks is a very realistic goal for a first time cut.

Cycle
Clen 2 on 2 off or ec stack through out
Wks 1-8 test prop 150mg eod
Wks 1-8 tren a 100-150mg eod
Possibly oral win 50mg ed wks 5-8

Adex and nolva on hand

Thanks for the help

Pct nolva and clomid.

[cebby1985]

Forgot to mention ill be running hcg, have to double check doses

I've run tren and win before, first time w prop

[cebby1985]

All these views but no input?

[jasc]

Will you be running an AI on cycle to control estrogen? Or just have 1 in hand incase sides show?
Also, do you have anything to control prolactin?

[cebby1985]

I was planning on running adex or letro e3d at .25 but waiting for opinions on to run it or just have it in case. I'll have plenty of that and nolva.

Nothing on prolactin yet. The smaller things are where I need help. That's why I'm coming now for advice so I can get it all lined up. I had no real good guidance before, so I'm making sure its done right thus time.

As far as dose and length on tren and test, could we agree that's sufficient? Along w that running adex at .25 e3d or adjust accordingly is correct as well?

[alexISthrowed]

Whats your pct plan dose wise? I would keep some prami on hand for tren. Letro at .25 e3d would be a good dose to start with, but with adex I would bump it to eod at least.

[cebby1985]

Thanks Alex. I can get either but I think ill go w letro at e3d to start. Pct will be a little diff for me this cycle as my others I ran cyp or e.

Pct 3 days after last inject. Nolva 20mg ed wks 1-2, clomid 100ee 1-2, 50mg wks 3-4


Sorry for the noob question, but prami? Not familiar w all the slang.

[alexISthrowed]

For pct I would run it like this.

Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

No need for 100mg of clomid and you would most likely get some bad sides. Prami or pramipexole is a dopamine agonist used to treat excess prolactin from tren. Cabergoline can also be used, it's a matter of personal preference. I have used both and like prami better, but it can have some very bad sides if the dose is bumped up to fast. It's a good thing to have on hand when running tren.

[cebby1985]

Did some research on prami. I thought I had came across that before when I used tren, also read a little on t3 during clen.

I never had any issues or even any negative sudes w tren the first time I used, I can have that on hand but a side this low I think ill be ok. I was even thinking about 100mg eod as opposed to 150. I seemed to get great gains off this the first time around.

[alexISthrowed]

I like to keep a lot of different ancillaries on hand lol. You don't want to be caught with your pants down.

[cebby1985]

Gotchya Alex thanks a ton.

Would it benefit me since I've been off for 3 yrs to lengthen my prop to 100eid for 12wks? Or keep the higher dose at 8 wks? If I do the 12wks I would more than likely run tren 150eod wks 1-8 and win last 4 wks. It just stop thinking so much and stick to the 8 wk.

[alexISthrowed]

8 weeks is fine with the prop, I don't see any reason to go any longer. You will get more benefit out of the higher dose for 8 weeks imo.

[cebby1985]

That's kind of what I was thinking too. Thanks again.

[BustaDime99]

sorry to hijack thread but alex i was wondering what dose to run prami, going to run a very similar cycle in the near future