Albuterol Log with Keto

[MACKATTACK]

Albuterol Log.


Type of Albuterol being used: VENTOLIN CR capsules (4mg) (can be had through online pharmacies) Made by Glaxico SMith Kline

Type of Ketotifen being used: AR-R Liquid


I have done tons of research over the last few months before making my decision on either Clen or Albuterol. I have searched numerous forums and read lots of technical articles on the makeup of the chemicals and how Clen and Albuterol has progressed from one another.

First discovered and created was Clen. This was originally made to treat horses.

Then Albuterol was created later on and tests done on Humans, created for humans and not just animal testing like Clen has done.


From the research I have read Albuterol is not as strong as Clenbuterol, lets face it though, I don't weigh the same as a horse.


Albuterol has a short half life of around 4 hours, while Clen having a half life of around 36 hours. So this initially was a big deal for me because I am somewhat sensitive to stims, but after a few days my body gets used to it for the most part. Now if you have been doing any reading you will know that the side effects are less and and not nearly as intense with Albuterol. I plan on running an 8-9 week cycle of Albuterol, Keto from day 1.


My setup now is:

Diet: High Protein, Low carbs.
Cardio: Hour of fasted morning cardio which includes HIT and HIIT.
Lifting: 4-5 days a week

I am currently 6'4 and 232 around 20% body fat.


I will be running:

4mg before morning cardio
4mg before lifting in the afternoon
2mg of Keto before bed.


(The first few days I may just take one 4mg tab in the morning to see how my body reacts. Listed above is where I may stay for a week and then up it from there. I will change the dosages depending apon how my body reacts)



Here is the photo of what I got in the mail:

I updated with a photo of the pill and it says its made by Glax Smith Kline which is a good sign that it was quality built. Also there are small balls inside of the pill if you can see in the photo.

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Day 1:

4mgs of Volmax 30 minutes before fasted cardio....... 1 hour of cardio.....


Cardio for an hour this morning was TOUGH....it felt as if my body was working 10 times as hard. In the first 10 minutes, I had a warmth feeling of where I was pondering on taking off my sweat shirt I ALWAYS do my cardio in. It just felt like fat was melting and it seemed after I worked out my visceral fat had reduced (call me crazy lol).

I had to do 5 minutes less of HIIT due to the fact it was sort of over whelming but I would hope once I get used to it, it will get easier to do my cardio. So I didn't want to over exert myself.

I do have SUPER mild shakes in the hands where I put them straight out I can see them trembling somewhat......once I ate breakfast, this subsided immediately.

I am somewhat tired after doing cardio like I need a nap, but that could possibly be due to coming off of the Oxy ELite pro with no break from the last 3 weeks which included a Pre workout shake (juggernaut).........well see how it goes.


Afternoon I took a second 4mg tab after lunch and immediately felt that warmth feeling again. Not really jittery, I personal keep moving a little if standing, lol, but nothing you cant deal with. I got invited to go play golf and I didnt bring anything to eat with me, so I basically missed one of my timed meals and I started to get a strong headache (still drinking lots of water though). I picked up some Taurine today and took my first pill to help with any cramps and or headaches that can be avoided.




Day 2:
Morning Cardio was much better, I think the first day effects was coming off that Oxyelitepro and pwo, tons of caffeine that was not incorporated anymore.

Cardio was good, felt the elevated warmth feeling in my body and no jitters at all. BUT, HIIT was an issue this morning I did get the almost pass out/super dizzy after the 3rd round of the HIIT, so I stopped the HIIT and kept it constant. I do get a little tired/grogy in the morning but I am positive that it is the KETO, that shit has been knocking me out!! I mean I am going to bed at 10 and not getting up till the alarm goes off at 7am, straight through, some very good sleep, but waking up is a little harder, I did hit the snooze button once.

I will be taking my second 4mg tab this afternooon. I am pondering on bumping it up to 8mg in the morning and then just keeping it at 4mg in the afternoon. Not sure yet, will go one more day at the 4mg morning and 4mg afternoon. I will be knocking down the Keto from 2mg's a night to 1mg a night, for right now until I get on higher dosages of albuterol.....


Day 3:
1mg of Keto over night is much better and I still get great sleep but not nearly as groggy in the morning. I upped it to 8mgs this morning of Volmax. Definitely a better dosage for me because I get more of that energy and warmth feeling. I am now convinced day 1 cardio toughness was due to coming off of those high levels of caffeine cold turkey. I had a little bit of shakes in the hands after the gym but remember I am on an empty stomach and just drained my body for an hour, but they are sooo minimal no one would noice but you unless you put your hand out and try and really hold it static. Once I ate my egg whites, this went away. I have noticed anything cardiovascular I do gets me to sweat a little, even minimal stuff, plus I will get random warmth feelings later in the day. I have noticed fat losses throughout my body, which it seems to be working. Granted I keep forcing myself to include some HIIT in that morning cardio and I can feel like fat is burning when I am doing it as suppse the last 3 months I have done HIIT not on albuterol, its ind of weird but in a good way.

Took another 8 mg this afternoon and felt a good amount of increased energy. Going to the gym now to lift and see how it puts out there. Good energy and getting warmth feelings mid lifting, some sweating. Did an additional of 30mins constant after the gym with an incline walk and eliptical, 15 on both and I was still soaked in sweat. This stuff def makes cardio easier and I have been noticing on the higher dosage my lungs opening up and getting more oxygen in. So far there are really no sides besides large amounts of sweating which I want.


Going to bump the dosage up to 12mgs twice a day........


3/26/12- I am running 12mgs twice a day and I have noticed an increased feeling of energy. I feel like I have retained more muscle and have seen more growth sooner while on this. I also tried some Syntha 6 and changed at the sametime to Myofusion, but I doubt the gains came from that. I will see how the 12mgs twice a day works for this week. I have seen an influx of sweating while doing cardio, but I have good consistent energy across the day. I have been taking 1mg of Keto a night.


3/28/12- Today I am 227lbs. Plan on running this till the beginning of June. Btw I forgot to list that a side of the KETO I get no matter what is DRY MOUTH, every morning.


3/29/12- With the new 12mgs twice a day, I do feel a little more agitated at times so I have to check my emotions more often. I consistently do get headaches on the albuterol.

3/30/12- Noticing strength gains

4/2/12- 224lbs

[jasc]

They sent you a watch with it? lucky bastard..

Interested to see how this goes I'm subscribed

[FONZY007]

I hear a lot of the keto or ppl using it along with Clen.. What does it do? The keto that is?

[MACKATTACK]

I hear a lot of the keto or ppl using it along with Clen.. What does it do? The keto that is?

The Keto resets your beta receptors which Albuterol and Clen can shut down for the most part. Which allows you to take Al or Clen for longer periods and makes it still very effective.

[FONZY007]

Oh so the Clen you would be able to stay on for say 1 months straight with the keto correct

[MACKATTACK]

Oh so the Clen you would be able to stay on for say 1 months straight with the keto correct

Yes, but the norm with Clen is 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. Some people have ran it for 4 weeks with Keto, but its not as popular.

[FONZY007]

Yes, but the norm with Clen is 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. Some people have ran it for 4 weeks with Keto, but its not as popular.

So it keeps the up the receptors to stay effective the whole time, do you take less because of the keto.. Sorry for the questions!!

[DamageDealer]

i've ran clen with keto for 6 weeks, and the effect of clen was still pretty strong

[tballz]

So it keeps the up the receptors to stay effective the whole time, do you take less because of the keto.. Sorry for the questions!!

Don't be sorry for the questions...keep'em coming. That's how everybody learns

Ketotifen allows you to stay on the clen or albut indefinitely as long as you stay on the keto. It allows the clen or albut to be effective. You would still take as much clen or albut as you can handle.

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day 1 update...........

[boisebeast]

A few questions if you don't mind:

-Does albuterol help retain muscle on a cut as well as clen?
-Would albuterol pass customs if I'm ordering from the US?
-Are there any major advantages to using keto over benadryl?

Thanks

[MACKATTACK]

A few questions if you don't mind:

-Does albuterol help retain muscle on a cut as well as clen?
-Would albuterol pass customs if I'm ordering from the US?
-Are there any major advantages to using keto over benadryl?

Thanks

Albuterol has an anti-catabolic effect and has been shown to help gain a little lean muscle and increase strength.

My Albuterol came from India so yea it passed customs.

Benadryl does not work on the same level as Keto when resetting your beta receptors (some have said using benadryl doesn't work at all)

[boisebeast]

thanks for the reply, good luck with your cut!

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Afternoon bump for second 4mg tab.......

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Day 2 bump...........

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Day 3 bump...........

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.......2 times of 8mg of Volmax

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Update today: SEE ABOVE FOR THE DAILY UPDATES (located in the second post)

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Weight update. From 232 to 227 in about 10 days.......seeing lots of fat loss mainly in my midsection, some in my traps and shoulder area.

[intensityfreak]

yea i love albuterol way better then clen... I always get cramps no matter what with clen, no matter how much water i drink or taurin i take.... Albuterol is a way better/safer choice if you don't mind multiple dosing through out the day... I've been a constant user of albuterol for multiple years... I love it, muscle gain,more stamina, Sweat your a**off, greater lung capacity, NO headache, Very minor shakes.... In all my experience i get better effect when i do a minimum of 3 dosages a/day.... Im currently take 6mg 3 to 4 times a day along side with 1 tab in the a.m and 1 tab in the p.m of oxyelite pro... im also in love with oxy....

[Rule]

Good work man, keep the upadates coming this will help me in future for my cut.

[MACKATTACK]

yea i love albuterol way better then clen... I always get cramps no matter what with clen, no matter how much water i drink or taurin i take.... Albuterol is a way better/safer choice if you don't mind multiple dosing through out the day... I've been a constant user of albuterol for multiple years... I love it, muscle gain,more stamina, Sweat your a**off, greater lung capacity, NO headache, Very minor shakes.... In all my experience i get better effect when i do a minimum of 3 dosages a/day.... Im currently take 6mg 3 to 4 times a day along side with 1 tab in the a.m and 1 tab in the p.m of oxyelite pro... im also in love with oxy....

This is very dangerous, especially with a combination of higher dosages of albuterol..........due to the already increased heart rate and blood pressure, the oxy with all that caffeine is going to push your receptors over the edge too, you didnt say if you are using Keto either....

[intensityfreak]

negative my friend!!!!! Oxy and albuterol works two different recptors sites.... Albuterol works beta2 and oxy works alpha 2.... this is my 3rd cycle of it.... 1 pill of oxy dosent do much for but supress appetite once your body get use to it... blood pressure doesn't above 143.... Albuterol doesn't increase my heart rate it just increase my body temperature.. thats where oxy comes in.... when your just hanging out during the oxy increase heart rate along side with the temperature increase... oxy is a diuretic... MY whole combo is oxy,albuterol,taurine, COQ10 for BP and Fish oil

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negative my friend!!!!! Oxy and albuterol works two different recptors sites.... Albuterol works beta2 and oxy works alpha 2.... this is my 3rd cycle of it.... 1 pill of oxy dosent do much for but supress appetite once your body get use to it... blood pressure doesn't above 143.... Albuterol doesn't increase my heart rate it just increase my body temperature.. thats where oxy comes in.... when your just hanging out during the oxy increase heart rate along side with the temperature increase... oxy is a diuretic... MY whole combo is oxy,albuterol,taurine, COQ10 for BP and Fish oil

I disagree but to each their own. I wouldn't be supplementing any large dosages of caffeine while taking this but thats why I am also supplementing Keto from the start, just to play it safe.

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Side effects update......

[rawpower]

very interested to see how this turns out im a long time clen user n have heard mixed reviews on albut

[AD]

Weight update. From 232 to 227 in about 10 days.......seeing lots of fat loss mainly in my midsection, some in my traps and shoulder area.

any before/after pics? sounds really encouraging.

i tried but couldn't stay on albut for long cos of scary palpitations. it definitely stimulates my heart rate, from personal experience

[MACKATTACK]

any before/after pics? sounds really encouraging.

i tried but couldn't stay on albut for long cos of scary palpitations. it definitely stimulates my heart rate, from personal experience

I havent seen any strong palpitations. I tested my heart rate and on average its at 150 (cardio). When I do HIIT, on the last set of the high intensity, I see around high 160's (30mins constant then 15mins HIIT).



Were you taking the liquid type and not the time released tabs?? Probably more of an up and down dosage if you know what I mean.

[AD]

I was using 2mg tabs. 2 tabs each time. Was taking once or twice a day on and off. Most regularly before gym. After 2 wks or so, i started feeling what you might call a dropped beat. Like out of nowhere, i will just feel i sudden hard thump in my chest. That got me a little scared so i got off the regular schedule. Nowadays i only take 2mg each time, and only on workout days. Not daily. But this could well be specific to me only, since you're feeling fine, heartbeat wise.

[boisebeast]

How bad is the sweating from the albuterol?

[AD]

for me, nothing at rest, but buckets in the gym

[boisebeast]

And have you had an increase in acne?

[AD]

cos not. from albut? why?

[boisebeast]

I would think the increase in sweat would lead to oily skin then acne

[AD]

Well, not in my case. I sweat more in the gym but skin oil / sebum production is not affected. So no acne for me.

[MACKATTACK]

I see enormous amounts of sweat when doing my hour long cardio session, I need to wear a sweat shirt at all times when doing cardio cause its so over the top lol. I have see no acne knock on wood but I am showering a minimum of 2 times a day........

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Weight update..........still on 12mgs twice a day.........

[Boxtrot]

Hows it going?

[MACKATTACK]

I wound up stopping it because I was getting some what angry and short tempered. I just tried to start with an ECA stack after clearing my receptors for a week and a half and started with only 8mg of Ephedrine HCL with 200mg caffeine and I already got immediate anxiety and in the last week and a half with just a great diet more lifting and consistent hour of cardio a day, I saw more muscle growth and fat loss, with the addition of some Kre Alkalyn. I am staying off the STIMS for a while and just running Keto for the rest of the time to keep my receptors up. After a full week and a half my body took to the all natural route and I felt great and my mood was good, just gonna do the hardwork no cheat all natural plan.